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| CortezBlue 
 
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| Carlos Slim's continuing troubles in Mexico 
 
 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-31/mexico-exchange-sai...
 
 I posted this for all of the folks that drive past Carlos' mine on the way to and from San Felipe
 
 It appears to be growing at a feverish pitch, there must be gold in them thar hills!
 
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| monoloco 
 
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| MrBillM 
 
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| When you're Abundantly Wealthy ........... 
 
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| David K 
 
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 Wealthy people create jobs for the rest of us! I wish there were more of them and then more of us would be employed and wealthier. I have never been
hired by a poor person, never.
   
 
 
 
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| chuckie 
 
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| Bajahowodd 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K Wealthy people create jobs for the rest of us! I wish there were more of them and then more of us would be employed and wealthier. I have never been
hired by a poor person, never.
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 Geez. Reagan's trickle down economics has been greatly disproven.
 
 Those wealthy people create jobs where it is most profitable for themselves. Hence, all the offshoring of jobs in the last thirty years.
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| bajaguy 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Bajahowodd Those wealthy people create jobs where it is most profitable for themselves. Hence, all the offshoring of jobs in the last thirty years.
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 Like Teresa Heinz Kerry????....wonder how she (and John) would like their wealth redistributed????
 
 
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| DaliDali 
 
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| The poor principle 
 
 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Bajahowodd 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K Wealthy people create jobs for the rest of us! I wish there were more of them and then more of us would be employed and wealthier. I have never been
hired by a poor person, never.
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 Geez. Reagan's trickle down economics has been greatly disproven.
 
 Those wealthy people create jobs where it is most profitable for themselves. Hence, all the offshoring of jobs in the last thirty years.
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 Yet David K's comment remains true...you can attempt to slice it and dice it up anyway you want but it remains and will remain......the poor do not
hire people.
 
 It never ceases to amaze me that some pundits can twist and turn the story to their liking, just to make another excuse and say "it was somebody
else's fault"
 
 
 
 
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| Bajaboy 
 
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 Well, the rich have gotten richer....so with DK's reasoning they should be hiring more people, right
   
 
 
 
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| chuckie 
 
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 And they are....
 
 
 
 
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| Bajaboy 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by chuckie And they are....
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 yes, an abundance of middle class jobs, with health care, and retirement are easy to come by.....NOT!
 
 
 
 
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| DaliDali 
 
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| Life and Liberty 
 
 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Bajaboy 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by chuckie And they are....
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 yes, an abundance of middle class jobs, with health care, and retirement are easy to come by.....NOT!
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 So here you are....again.....blaming someone else for your lot in life.
 
 Rather than lay the blame on wealthy folks...maybe you should dial up Obama and ask him if another direction in taxation and regulations would free up
Mr Wealthy to hire you.
 
 Last time I looked, Mr Wealthy is not responsible for your well being in life.
 Business is not in the business of promoting and funding social welfare, no matter how much you seem to want them to.
 
 
 
 
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| chuckie 
 
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 Bull crap.........Get off your Burro ...
 
 
 
 
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| Bajaboy 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by DaliDali 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Bajaboy 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by chuckie And they are....
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 yes, an abundance of middle class jobs, with health care, and retirement are easy to come by.....NOT!
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 So here you are....again.....blaming someone else for your lot in life.
 
 Rather than lay the blame on wealthy folks...maybe you should dial up Obama and ask him if another direction in taxation and regulations would free up
Mr Wealthy to hire you.
 
 Last time I looked, Mr Wealthy is not responsible for your well being in life.
 Business is not in the business of promoting and funding social welfare, no matter how much you seem to want them to.
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 Sounds like I really riled up the old folks home
  The suggestion was that the
rich create the jobs....so where are all the good jobs?  The rich are getting richer so a reasonable assumption would be that there would be more
jobs... 
 not exactly sure why you are reading into my comment any more than that.....
 
 
 
 
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| bledito 
 
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 mr wealthy is great if you live in any country other than the U. S. he creates jobs overseas and keeps the money overseas to avoid taxation on the
products he sell back in the U. S. while the middle class pays the taxes. and the lower class barely scrapes by 7.25 an hour try living on that after
fed and state taxes.  reason why lincoln freed the slaves so they can pay taxes like whites.
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| DaliDali 
 
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| A better solution 
 
 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Bajaboy 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by DaliDali 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Bajaboy 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by chuckie And they are....
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 yes, an abundance of middle class jobs, with health care, and retirement are easy to come by.....NOT!
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 So here you are....again.....blaming someone else for your lot in life.
 
 Rather than lay the blame on wealthy folks...maybe you should dial up Obama and ask him if another direction in taxation and regulations would free up
Mr Wealthy to hire you.
 
 Last time I looked, Mr Wealthy is not responsible for your well being in life.
 Business is not in the business of promoting and funding social welfare, no matter how much you seem to want them to.
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 so where are all the good jobs?
 
 
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 One thing is for certain.....the current far left liberal administration hasn't a clue do they? After 4+ years, they are still floundering around,
firing and hiring economists, treasury secretaries and various "experts" on employment..grasping for a clue as to what to do.
 Then they get desperate and bring in actual business owners who tell them what is needed to get the engine going again.......and the beat goes
on.....dismal job reports, dismal growth.
 
 And after it's all said and done....poor people don't hire other people.
 Then you jumped in and started the blame game, ie: "it's not my fault"
 
 FYI...there are thousands of good paying jobs on the cusp right now. Just wait for them.... requirements are.....must be willing to get dirty....sweat
a lot and freeze your tail off in the winter. Are you up for that?
 And if your real sharp and paid your dues getting all sweaty and such..you too could be in the heated construction trailer watching all the others get
sweaty and dirty.
 Call the president and ask him when you can sign up. Wait for it.....
 
 
 
 
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| David K 
 
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 Why some people put their faith in BIG GOVERNMENT instead of the FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM is beyond me!?? Business (enterprise) creates wealth... and
government steals it... to create programs for popularity and get re-elected... for their personal, selfish desires... all under the guise that they
are doing it for the common man. Enterprise (business) rewards those who work, invest, and take risks to create more business. Government is the
opposite: It punishes those who have success or invests in America. Now, back to your original program...
   
 
 
 
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| chuckie 
 
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 When this thread got started I knew it would turn into an I hate business, the world owes me a job whine..and it did...
 
 
 
 
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| David K 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by chuckie When this thread got started I knew it would turn into an I hate business, the world owes me a job whine..and it did...
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 It makes you wonder where some people think money comes from!?? Government can print all they want to, but without business creating real wealth, the
money printed is worthless.
  
 The sad thing is that some of these great folks are educators, and what will happen if nobody teaches the truth to kids about economics, business, the
purpose of government, that we are a republic and not a democracy... things like that!
   
 
 
 
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| DaliDali 
 
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| Not yet...don't do it 
 
 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by bledito mr wealthy is great if you live in any country other than the U. S. he creates jobs overseas and keeps the money overseas to avoid taxation on the
products he sell back in the U. S. while the middle class pays the taxes. and the lower class barely scrapes by 7.25 an hour try living on that after
fed and state taxes.  reason why lincoln freed the slaves so they can pay taxes like whites.
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 You might consider holding on to that day job before you become a political commentator.
 
 
 
 
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