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| List of cheater gas stations 
 
 Here a list from Profeco (México's consumer protection agency) of  cheating gas stations.
 It's an excel format and you'll find many in Baja California and Baja California Sur.
 Surprisingly the infamous Santa Rosalia sation is not on the list
 
 http://www.alconsumidor.org/noticias.phtml?id=1299 click on ver lista
 
 
 
 
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 This ought to be an interesting thread.  How can St. Rosalia be left off after so many reports???  Thanks for link.
 
 
 
 
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 I notice that there's a whole whack of them in La Paz but only one listed in Cabo.
 
 
 
 
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| freediverbrian 
 
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 2900 cheating stations? Mexico dose not want to privatize pemex to protect national resources . How about protecting the public from pemex
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 That is because two of the new stations in Santa Rosalia are operated by completely different people and have shown themselves to give very accurate
deliveries.  The new station on the east side of the road just past the Marina, going north, is owned by a local gentleman who is considered very
honest and a good business man.  The other new station is just north of there, does not handle diesel, but is reported by all of the locals to have
accurate pumps.  The old station has been redone and new pumps put in on the west side of the road before the marina, going north, and the station on
the north side of town, west side, are owned by the same guy who had them before, but most of the locals feel it only appropriate to avoid those
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 Only 1 for Ciudad Constitucion?
 
 And #538 is wrong.  Nopolo is in the Loreto Municipality and is not in Comondu.
 
 And that is the only one listed for Loreto.
 
 I think their Baja info is not too accurate.
 
 And actually we always use the one listed for Constitucion and the centro one in Mulege - figuring they were the truest pumps.
 
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 Funny!!!
 The one listed for Loreto is the only one we find to give true measure. All the other ones are crooked.
 Maybe a little bribe keeps you off the list.?
    
 
 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Bob and Susan this list could include hoses that leak or pumps...
 they still tape the pump if there s a problem
 
 they do close a pump if it leaks
 you may never see the leak
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 Do you mean that if they manage to put 22 liters in a 19 liter container that leakage may be the problem?
 And where do the 3 liters go?
 Into the ground?
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| Link to gas pumps shorting customers 
 
 Link-http://www.alconsumidor.org/docs/Lista_negra_de_gasolineras_que_dan_litros_incompletos.xls
 
 Story-http://peninsulardigital.com/extra/dan-conocer-la-lista-negra-de-gasolineras/130173
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 Wouldn’t it be easier to list the honest stations.
 
 
 
 
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 This problem is very common in the state of California. Inquire via the California bureau of weights and measures.
 
 Those stations are called FRANQUICIAS for a reason.
 
 They are franchises, independently owned and operated.
 
 If SPECULATORS were allowed to get their greedy mitts on Pemex there would be  flood of gasoline at six dollars a gallon. The problem is not Pemex,
it's the hundreds of gobernacion piglets sucking the sow dry. Privatize Pemex and you would add speculators in line at the trough ahead of the greedy
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 Dispensers found to be in error are wrapped with yellow barricade tape with black letters or adhesive stickers. INMOVILIZADO is printed on the tape
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by DavidE This problem is very common in the state of California. Inquire via the California bureau of weights and measures.
 
 
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 Yes, it does happen, but I wouldn't say it's common for a pump to under-dispense, especially newer pumps.  California, I would say, is the safest
place in regards to getting what you paid for.  Like you said, the Department of Weights & Measures, enforced by each County, checks the meters at
least once per year.  I see their reports in my line of work, and most say "NO VIOLATIONS".
 
 When dispensers go out of calibration, they can go + or --.
 
 I have seen stations giving away as much as 1 gallon for every gallon registered on the meter.  No one complains when this happens.  They just call
their friends and everyone gets some free gas.
 
 If a pump is under dispensing like that, you bet Weights & Measures gets called and the station is inspected the next day.  Facilities who are out
of compliance get red tagged and a calibration company is called.
 
 In 10 years I have never heard of an owner, disgruntled employee or underpaid cashier (And they do tell me other stuff) ever tell me that someone has
screwed with the pumps.
 
 I'm sure there are some, but nothing I've heard of yet.
 
 As for Baja, who the hell knows?
 
 
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 Here's an interesting letter regarding fuel tank capacity and gas pump accuracy. Was gonna start a new thread but figured it may be considered off
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 I will bump this once because I think it's interesting and a possible explanation for some of our shortage experiences.
 
 
 
 
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 Both the stations in Mulege are terrible.  The lady that owns them rips everyone off.  The other day I brought in a 5 gallon gas can and when done it
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