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Quinonez
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Tourist card?
First time post… Awesome site! Very informative.
I’m heading to Ensenada then east on highway 3 to San Felipe. Anyone know if a tourist card is required?
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bajagrouper
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Only if you will be in Baja no more than 72 hours, for staying up to 7 days you need one but it is free...for over 7 days or traveling into BCS you
need one and it cost 295 pesos......hope this helps
welcome to the board......
[Edited on 9-26-2013 by bajagrouper]
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sancho
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The above post totally accurate, in practice the area
you describe travellers often do not get tourist cards,
for me, I get one every time down, to further muddy
the waters, Mex Immigration MAY tell you ypu don't
need an fmm
[Edited on 9-26-2013 by sancho]
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David K
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| Quote: | | Only if you will be in Baja no more than 72 hours |
Ummm?
Needed technically if MORE than 72 hours... no checks for it anywhere in the state of Baja California... Only one checkpoint for tourist cards, and it
is on Hwy. 1 just south of the state border, near Guerrero Negro.
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Bajahowodd
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There hasn't been any immigration presence at the state border for years. It is an agricultural checkpoint.
That said, unless someone decides to live in the border region, and a local cop gets curious, the 72 hour thing really doesn't matter, inasmuch as
there is almost no way any authorities can verify how long you have been South of the border.
To further expand on what Sancho mentioned, we will occasionally obtain one if we're going to stay in Ensenada, only for future use when we take a
trip farther South.
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But, the only place to get an FMM tourist card is within 100' of the border crossing in Tijuana.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
There hasn't been any immigration presence at the state border for years. It is an agricultural checkpoint.
That said, unless someone decides to live in the border region, and a local cop gets curious, the 72 hour thing really doesn't matter, inasmuch as
there is almost no way any authorities can verify how long you have been South of the border.
To further expand on what Sancho mentioned, we will occasionally obtain one if we're going to stay in Ensenada, only for future use when we take a
trip farther South. |
They were open for business in July, 2012... waved us through after we made the full stop in front of the office.
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consensus opinion
What is the correct approach for someone staying above Ensenada driving a California plated vehicle attempting to find a rental?
I would prefer not to run afoul of official regulations.
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sancho
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| Quote: | | I would prefer not to run afoul of official regulations. |
As posted, the Official, depends on who you ask in Mex
Immigration, is that over 72 hrs. ANYWHERE in Mex you technically need an fmm,
but I sure there are Gringos LIVING in the
Ensenada without Immigration papers of any kind.
The situation I would not like to find myself in, is to come
into contact with an Insurance Adjuster, Mex Cop, and
by chance be asked for a Tourist card and not have one.
Both the San Diego Mex Insurance Brokers have assured
policy holders that not having an fmm would not affect
their Auto Policy. what that may do is open a can of
worms, possibly giving the Cop leverage for Mordida, not saying it would, just opens the door. Someone mentioned
how do they know when you crossed into Mex, to me,
if you are carring a Mex Auto Policy for a given date,
that gives an indication of when you crossed. I may
be a bit paronid than most in re: driving in Mex,
but I will go out of my way to not give them a reason
to question me
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| Quote: | Originally posted by huesos
What is the correct approach for someone staying above Ensenada driving a California plated vehicle attempting to find a rental?
I would prefer not to run afoul of official regulations. |
Get the tourist card. When you have the rental, you can apply for a temporary resident card.....since you won't be a tourist anymore.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
| Quote: | | I would prefer not to run afoul of official regulations. |
As posted, the Official, depends on who you ask in Mex
Immigration, is that over 72 hrs. ANYWHERE in Mex you technically need an fmm,
but I sure there are Gringos LIVING in the
Ensenada without Immigration papers of any kind.
The situation I would not like to find myself in, is to come
into contact with an Insurance Adjuster, Mex Cop, and
by chance be asked for a Tourist card and not have one.
Both the San Diego Mex Insurance Brokers have assured
policy holders that not having an fmm would not affect
their Auto Policy. what that may do is open a can of
worms, possibly giving the Cop leverage for Mordida, not saying it would, just opens the door. Someone mentioned
how do they know when you crossed into Mex, to me,
if you are carring a Mex Auto Policy for a given date,
that gives an indication of when you crossed. I may
be a bit paronid than most in re: driving in Mex,
but I will go out of my way to not give them a reason
to question me |
Great advice!
Better to HAVE it and not need it...
Than to NEED it and not have it!! 
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huesos
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tourist card first
So to recap, I will get the tourist card first. Where should I get that? After establishing a residence address, I will apply for a temporary
residents visa. Where should I apply for that if I am somewhere in between Rosarito and La mision? Is the temporary residents visa the same thing as
the fnm?
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bajagrouper
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Huesos,Wrong.........
If you want to become a temporary resident you must first go to a Mexican Consulate in the country where you reside in and apply there, once all the
paperwork is done you enter Mexico on an FMM and you have 30 days to complete the process at immigration ....Here is a website that explains
all........
http://www.mexicovisaservice.com/TEMPORARYMEXICORESIDENCY.ht...
[Edited on 9-27-2013 by bajagrouper]
[Edited on 9-27-2013 by bajagrouper]
[Edited on 9-27-2013 by bajagrouper]
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David K
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The FMM is the 'Tourist Card' and you get that at the border, just inside Mexico inside the office labeled as INM. It used to be called an FM-T, but
that was changed just over a year ago.
You can pay for a tourist card good for up to 180 days... and also write in (or tell officer if they are filling out those parts) the furthest south
point you might travel to in the next 180 days (Los Cabos, for example).
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
There hasn't been any immigration presence at the state border for years. It is an agricultural checkpoint.
That said, unless someone decides to live in the border region, and a local cop gets curious, the 72 hour thing really doesn't matter, inasmuch as
there is almost no way any authorities can verify how long you have been South of the border.
To further expand on what Sancho mentioned, we will occasionally obtain one if we're going to stay in Ensenada, only for future use when we take a
trip farther South. |
They were open for business in July, 2012... waved us through after we made the full stop in front of the office. |
If you are speaking of Southbound, it has been just an ag station for a long while. And, I've mentioned it previously, that one may refuse the bug
spray and just drive on through.
As for Northbound, we've passed through that way a number of times in 2011, 2012, 2013, and the old building was shuttered.
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huesos
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180 or nothing
So maybe what I should do is to get the 180 day tourist card at the border INM and list the southern most limit at Loa Cabos, taking on temporary
residence procedure when it becomes necessary. The only question is: what about multiple entries on that tourist card?
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Quinones! Welcome!
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bajagrouper
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huesos, on the back of your part of the FMM is states:
"Durning your stay in Mexico, you must retain this immigration form and surrender it upon leaving the country."
This is not a multiple entry form, it is a form that is multi purposes....
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What will happen if you do not surrender it upon leaving, or after
your 180 days? I think mine is past!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by liknbaja127
What will happen if you do not surrender it upon leaving, or after
your 180 days? I think mine is past! |
Nothing... at least not so far in the past 40 years since I have been getting them when I started driving south of Maneadero when I was 16. There is
an address (it's been posted) where to mail the form back before it expires, as there is NO PLACE/ PERSON to hand it back as you are driving back
north, in the border line. Not like at airports for flying tourists.
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