Bajaboy
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Laguna Chapala
On my way south a few days ago, I noticed a very large lot near the turn to Gonzaga marked off. Anyone have any ideas on what might be going in
here....maybe a Pemex
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large large?
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Bajaboy
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I'm not very good estimating lot sizes....maybe half a football field more or less.
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But a large large what? I hope not a UFO? I am flying over that manana
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Interesting.... CoCo told me awhile back that the new paved road was going to cut over west to the north of his place and not go by his place. Maybe
this has changed and it will follow the existing road? Someone is planning ahead perhaps?
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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Bob H
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Maybe an OXXO !!
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Thats about where a guy needs a cuppa.............
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I heard it'll be an In N Out with a liquor store attached.
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A Pemex would be a great idea. It would put a few guys out of business in Catavina though.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
A Pemex would be a great idea. It would put a few guys out of business in Catavina though. |
Oh no! Gotta Peso outa business? Say it isn't so.
Bob Durrell
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pacifico
Interesting.... CoCo told me awhile back that the new paved road was going to cut over west to the north of his place and not go by his place. Maybe
this has changed and it will follow the existing road? Someone is planning ahead perhaps? |
The Coco Bypass is only going to affect Coco I believe... If you look at Google Earth, the old road to Chapala (of 1955) passes through that rancho
west of Coco's and rejoins the newer graded road... From there it will likely use the same roadbed as the current graded road that was built around
1982.
Have a look at this 1962 Howard Gulick map that I added in new roads over (Hwy. 1 and dirt Hwy. 5):
Note just below 'Las Arrastras' the single line drawn in and the circle in it? That's Coco's Corner.... It sounds like the new highway will stay on
the older road, just west for that couple of miles.
Here is one of Cliff Cross' 'birds-eye-view' maps of the area from his 1970 guide...
Note below Las Arrastras and the bad road warning the mileage 14 and mileage 3 on the two roads... Coco's Corner would be between those two figures at
the foot of the mountain slope shown.
[Side note, in a later edition Cliff noted he placed the Calamajué mission site on the wrong side of the arroyo]
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We are driving down to Coyote Bay tomorrow. I'll check it out. That Cliff Cross map brings back memories. I drove down several times in my VW bus in
1970 and '71 and the road went right thru the middle of Lake Chapala dry lake bed. The silt was so fine it coated the windshield and had to use
wipers to see. Also it plugged up the air filter in the engine which was easily fixed once I diagnosed it. His book was very useful. Memorable
trips.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Vince
We are driving down to Coyote Bay tomorrow. I'll check it out. That Cliff Cross map brings back memories. I drove down several times in my VW bus in
1970 and '71 and the road went right thru the middle of Lake Chapala dry lake bed. The silt was so fine it coated the windshield and had to use
wipers to see. Also it plugged up the air filter in the engine which was easily fixed once I diagnosed it. His book was very useful. Memorable
trips. |
Cross map of Chapala and the new highway added in blue highlighter relative to the old main road (through the dust bowl). When the highway was built
on the opposite side of the valley from the ranch, Arturo Grosso just moved his ranch to the highway! Renamed Rancho Nueva Chapala! The foundations of
the original ranch can be seen next to the road to Gonzaga.
July 1973, Laguna Chapala along the new highway, under construction:
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Howard Gulick Photos
1965 Laguna Chapala dust bowl (worst section of the Old Road in many opinions):
1955 Rancho Laguna Chapala (Arturo Grosso):
1956 Laguna Chapala lake bed (best section of the Old Road):
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Great photos, David. That's just how I remember Lake Chapala.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Vince
Great photos, David. That's just how I remember Lake Chapala. |
Have a great trip Vince!  
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Are the foundations of the old ranch on the north side of the road? I remember seeing something like that in that area.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pacifico
Are the foundations of the old ranch on the north side of the road? I remember seeing something like that in that area. |
YES! There is a bit of a tree there, too...
In the 1965 Gulick photo, you can see the ranch in the distance beyond the dust bowl, at the bottom of the distant hill.
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I don't remember much of my '68 drive to Cabo but I do remember that section. I was in a 56 Chevy p/u and there were 2 couples that had doing it for
many years. We didn't get stuck! That's the day I found a liking for tequila. No cold beer to be had. I finally got a mes of slides from that trip so
when I get back Maybe there will be something to share.
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"Lookit! Lookit! Lookit! We're doing fifty miles an hour"
The tilted gas drums were out back of the ranch house. Seems to me remembering they had to haul water. No rain for a long time. The flash flood that
nailed tres enriques did not get to Chapala. This was the place I got my very first taste of machaca con huevos revueltos. Hard to believe now LBJ had
been in office only seven months. How bad was Chapala dust? Wear a pair of levi's for the trip, on the far side take 'em off and they'll stand
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