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One thing I'm not getting about the overtly gay community.
Why would you want to be singled out, largely, by the type of person you have sixx with? Why publicly emphasize your sexuality through parades,
attending gay functions, etc.? Does anyone really CARE about the gender that other people have sixx with, to the point that it must be made public?
Gay pride? You're PROUD of having sex with a specific type of person and you want the world to know? Isnt that rather shallow?
I mean, should I start a movement for men preferring sex with redhead or brunette females and start parading around, publicly declaring this? Maybe
open a redhead-sexual-preference bar that is "blonde sexuality" friendly? Wouldn't I be labeled a shallow, sexualist pig?
Or, are we straight folk just behind the curve in marketing ourselves properly..........?
[Edited on 11-6-2013 by Hook]
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Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
One thing I'm not getting about the overtly gay community.
Why would you want to be singled out, largely, by the type of person you have sixx with? Why publicly emphasize your sexuality through parades,
attending gay functions, etc.? Does anyone really CARE about the gender that other people have sixx with, to the point that it must be made public?
Gay pride? You're PROUD of having sex with a specific type of person and you want the world to know? Isnt that rather shallow?
I mean, should I start a movement for men preferring sex with redhead or brunette females and start parading around, publicly declaring this? Maybe
open a redhead-sexual-preference bar that is "blonde sexuality" friendly? Wouldn't I be labeled a shallow, sexualist pig?
Or, are we straight folk just behind the curve in marketing ourselves properly..........?
[Edited on 11-6-2013 by Hook] |
Really? Just this week, a bill was close to passing in the Senate making it illegal to discriminate against gays workers. The House will likely not
take up the bill. In other words, the House still feels it is okay to discriminate based on one's sexual preference.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-close-to-passi...
If all people were accepted equally, then your comment might make sense. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. By the way, I'm proud of having
sex with my wife....does that make me shallow?
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Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
Quote: | In my opinion, in this thread, the only one up till then who was fanning flames was you by talking about how you shouldn't have to watch RUPAUL.
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Never said that.
What I said was, I dislike coming across that freak show in my channel surfing, and made it a point that I left the channel asap....which was fast.
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This was a thread about a gay bar. When the second thing out of your mouth is Rupaul, it makes you look a little homophobic and sheltered. I mean,
come on, what's usually the first thing out of someone's mouth who doesn't like gays?
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Don't know, but I'm not homophobic. I'm homo-nauseated from their attempts to shove their lifestyle down my throat. [no pun intended]
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Your comment. Not mine.
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Is Rupaul the only gay person you know?
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I don't know RuPaul. I don't know Barney Franks either. Thank Gawd on both accounts.
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You saying that GAYS take themselves out of the pool that are biologically concerned with the propagation of the human species is comedy gold.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAKFlpdcfc&feature=youtu...
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POLL----Straight people: How many of you were thinking about propagating the human species when you were hot n horny and looking for some action?
What person would choose to be bullied, harassed, threatened, beaten up, and even killed for just holding hands with someone of the same sex?
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Blather....
Quote: | Oh you didn't really say that, you said it's the environment in which they are raised that makes 'em gay. If that were true, all those intimidating
words from a homophobic father to apossible queer son must not work. It's fricking child abuse to treat a kid that way. Child friggen abuse.
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More blah blah blah blather
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My good friend is a twin. Both twins (BOYS) grew up in the same household, with a loving Mom and baseball coach Dad. Well, one of them is gay and
the other isn't.
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Who, but me, could care less.
Quote: | We can do better the the fricking Constitution.
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You should back away from your bong and bottle before you make comments like this!!
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Cheers my brother,
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Good enough. Thanks.
[Edited on 11-6-2013 by Ateo] |
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I'm proud of having sex with my wife.... |
Before...or after? 
Jes kiddin'.
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Dennis,
Thanks for telling us what you think.
But that does not mean that it is "The Truth"....but is only what you believe.
Your comment that we are solely a product of our environment suggests that you are one of these folks that denies science (i.e. genetics, research
findings, etc).
I am not sure what chord within you that is struck that leads to your homophobic mentality....but that is for you to work out.
Good luck with that.
Don't believe everything you think....
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Hook
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"By the way, I'm proud of having sex with my wife....does that make me shallow?"
If you parade around and glorify it in public, I'd say yes.
I'd like to know more about a person than their sexual preferences. But if that's the introduction that is forced upon you by their public actions
then, yes, it's shallow, IMO.
"The House will likely not take up the bill. In other words, the House still feels it is okay to discriminate based on one's sexual preference."
You dont know that. You cant conclude the feelings of the whole House, based on the actions of one man. Boehner has recently been shown to be out of
touch with the majority of the House in order to coddle a vocal minority that support his conservatism.
But you cant conclude that Boehner's political ploy reflects the mood of the House.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
"By the way, I'm proud of having sex with my wife....does that make me shallow?"
If you parade around and glorify it in public, I'd say yes.
I'd like to know more about a person than their sexual preferences. But if that's the introduction that is forced upon you by their public actions
then, yes, it's shallow, IMO.
"The House will likely not take up the bill. In other words, the House still feels it is okay to discriminate based on one's sexual preference."
You dont know that. You cant conclude the feelings of the whole House, based on the actions of one man. Boehner has recently been shown to be out of
touch with the majority of the House in order to coddle a vocal minority that support his conservatism.
But you cant conclude that Boehner's political ploy reflects the mood of the House. |
Okay, so let's say that Boehner allows the vote....what are the odds that it passes the House? Not likely....
Look, I understand your premise about parading "it" around...but one's sexual preferences should be their own business. But unfortunately, too many
people think they should dictate what a person should do or not do.
[Edited on 11-6-2013 by Bajaboy]
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Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Dennis,
Thanks for telling us what you think.
But that does not mean that it is "The Truth"....but is only what you believe.
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I believe this is insane and shouldn't be allowed to hinder an orderly flow of traffic:
http://tinyurl.com/mron7uv
    
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Dennis,
Thanks for telling us what you think.
But that does not mean that it is "The Truth"....but is only what you believe.
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I believe this is insane and shouldn't be allowed to hinder an orderly flow of traffic:
http://tinyurl.com/mron7uv
    
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a fun parade!
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Martyman
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I speak a little Spanish...but I don't consider myself bi.
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Barry A.
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Secretly, I always wanted to be a big cat-----------should I try and start a in-your-face movement for people like me?? (maybe I just did?????)
Barry
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Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
I speak a little Spanish...but I don't consider myself bi. |
Do you have a bi-cycle? Whoever heard of a homo Schwin? [well...there are beach cruisers]
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The Vatican has issued a request to national bishops' conferences worldwide ahead of a synod next year: Tell us what your region thinks about
contraception, divorce, same-sex marriage, and other social issues. The National Catholic Reporter calls the questionnaire a "wide-ranging poll of
Catholics," though the Vatican has disputed that label, saying it's simply a series of questions for bishops' offices, CatholicCulture.org notes.
Still, leaders called for questions to be distributed "as widely as possible." While an accompanying letter sent to US bishops asks only for their own
assessments, in England and Wales, the church has posted an online survey.
"Concerns which were unheard of until a few years ago have arisen today as a result of different situations, from the widespread practice of
cohabitation ... to same-sex unions," the bishops' documents note, per the BBC. Among the questions:
* "What pastoral attention can be given to people who have chosen to live (in same-sex) union(s)?" And "what can be done pastorally in light of
transmitting the faith" among families with same-sex parents?
* As to writings against the use of artificial contraception, "Is this moral teaching accepted?"
* "Does a ministry exist to attend to" cases of cohabitation before marriage, divorce, and remarriage?
The documents also address "a culture of non-commitment" in marriage, single parents, polygamy, and "forms of feminism hostile to the Church," the
National Catholic Reporter notes.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
In the most recent edition of the Baja Times, the English language newspaper, an ad is headlined "Gay Bar" and goes on the give location details,
along with the line "Heterosexual Friendly".
Are people in Baja tolerant enough that whoever placed the ad felt comfortable enough to make it a headline and to believe that it will help bring in
customers?
I honestly don't have an opinion or any knowledge about the subject. |
Since you live in La Paz, perhaps you should visit Las Jarritas on 5 de Febrero just off Abasolo. It's a gay bar and welcomes anyone, you could better
inform yourself about Paceño attitudes towards gays there.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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Wow the intolerance over here! If I didn't know better I would think I'm in the OT. It's a good thing we as a nation are moving forward and becoming
more tolerant towards gays, and this is most countries in the world including Mexico, however there are a few Muslims nations, North Korea, and a few
factions within the GOP party that are pretty much intolerant towards gay people, and same-sex marriage.
I pulled up an old poll from a "Pew study" and it shows in 2003 by nearly two-to-one, more Americans oppose same-sex marriage, but just a decade
later in 2013, the polls are pretty much evenly divided towards same-sex marriage about 50% pro same-sex marriage, and 50% against same-sex
marriage, but if there was another vote for something like prop 8 this year in California. It would probably end up in defeat this time around, and
in favor for the same-sex proponents. However as you know the courts intervened and overturned prop 8.
Another thing that the polls show, is the younger you are, the more tolerant towards gay people you are, and the older you are, the more intolerant
you are against gay people on average, and this is across all political lines, and even young conservatives are probably pretty tolerant towards gays
and same-sex marriage, and older conservatives seem to harbor the most intolerance towards gays according to the polls.
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November 18, 2003
Religious Beliefs Underpin Opposition to Homosexuality
Gay Marriage Opposed
By nearly two-to-one, more Americans oppose (59%) than favor (32%) legalizing gay marriage. This reflects something of a backlash from polls conducted
earlier in the year, before the Supreme Court’s ruling in June that struck down state laws against sodomy. In a July survey shortly after that
decision, the public opposed gay marriage by a smaller margin (53%-38%).
http://www.pewforum.org/2003/11/18/part-2-gay-marriage/
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Forward 2013:
During our polling so far this year, an average of 50% of Americans support the right of gays and lesbians to marry legally. In our most recent
survey, conducted in May, that number edged up to 51% for the first time. A slideshow that tracks attitudes towards gay marriage since 2001, including
breakdowns by religion, generation and political party, can be viewed here.
Although the public remains divided, both supporters and opponents now believe that legal recognition of gay marriage is “inevitable.”
http://www.pewresearch.org/key-data-points/gay-marriage-key-...
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Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Wow the intolerance over here! If I didn't know better I would think I'm in the OT. It's a good thing we as a nation are moving forward and becoming
more tolerant towards gays, and this is most countries in the world including Mexico, however there are a few Muslims nations, North Korea, and a few
factions within the GOP party that are pretty much intolerant towards gay people, and same-sex marriage.
I pulled up an old poll from a "Pew study" and it shows in 2003 by nearly two-to-one, more Americans oppose same-sex marriage, but just a decade
later in 2013, the polls are pretty much evenly divided towards same-sex marriage about 50% pro same-sex marriage, and 50% against same-sex
marriage, but if there was another vote for something like prop 8 this year in California. It would probably end up in defeat this time around, and
in favor for the same-sex proponents. However as you know the courts intervened and overturned prop 8.
Another thing that the polls show, is the younger you are, the more tolerant towards gay people you are, and the older you are, the more intolerant
you are against gay people on average, and this is across all political lines, and even young conservatives are probably pretty tolerant towards gays
and same-sex marriage, and older conservatives seem to harbor the most intolerance towards gays according to the polls.
___________________________________________
November 18, 2003
Religious Beliefs Underpin Opposition to Homosexuality
Gay Marriage Opposed
By nearly two-to-one, more Americans oppose (59%) than favor (32%) legalizing gay marriage. This reflects something of a backlash from polls conducted
earlier in the year, before the Supreme Court’s ruling in June that struck down state laws against sodomy. In a July survey shortly after that
decision, the public opposed gay marriage by a smaller margin (53%-38%).
http://www.pewforum.org/2003/11/18/part-2-gay-marriage/
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Forward 2013:
During our polling so far this year, an average of 50% of Americans support the right of gays and lesbians to marry legally. In our most recent
survey, conducted in May, that number edged up to 51% for the first time. A slideshow that tracks attitudes towards gay marriage since 2001, including
breakdowns by religion, generation and political party, can be viewed here.
Although the public remains divided, both supporters and opponents now believe that legal recognition of gay marriage is “inevitable.”
http://www.pewresearch.org/key-data-points/gay-marriage-key-... |
Once again the wisdom of the elders is proven true. 
Barry
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I'm gonna walk down the street to pick up some Tito's Tacos. Their stuff is pretty tasty. |
Tito's Tacos in Culver City? Hmmmm.
For those of you not familiar with L.A., Tito's is a longstanding Mexican-American fast food joint just off the 405 in Culver City that for some
inexplicable reason always seems to have a line of customers. Greasy beef tacos with iceberg lettuce and cheddar cheese. I just don't get it,
especially with so much good Mexican food to be had in the same area (e.g., Mariscos Chente, El Jacalito, Tacomiendo, Taqueria Sanchez, etc.).
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Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Wow the intolerance over here! If I didn't know better I would think I'm in the OT. It's a good thing we as a nation are moving forward and becoming
more tolerant towards gays, |
Who here is being intolerant toward gays?
Say it's me if you wish, but you'd best have your sht together when you do.
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Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Your comment that we are solely a product of our environment suggests that you are one of these folks that denies science (i.e. genetics, research
findings, etc).
I am not sure what chord within you that is struck that leads to your homophobic mentality....but that is for you to work out.
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You really have to pull the homophobe branding iron out of the fire. I have no fear of homos....only a disgust for having their lifestyle forced upon
me when it is, and today, that is often.
Flamboyant, "in your face" queers, are as abhorrent to me as het-porn. It's a moral issue for me and no government on earth will tell me what I
should consider moral.
http://www.pureintimacy.org/a/are-people-really-born-gay/
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Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
Dennis,
I'm gonna walk down the street to pick up some Tito's Tacos.

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You should probably take a Glock and your new SPOT in case you get into trouble!!!
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