Originally posted by Hook
One thing I'm not getting about the overtly gay community.
Why would you want to be singled out, largely, by the type of person you have sixx with? Why publicly emphasize your sexuality through parades,
attending gay functions, etc.? Does anyone really CARE about the gender that other people have sixx with, to the point that it must be made public?
Gay pride? You're PROUD of having sex with a specific type of person and you want the world to know? Isnt that rather shallow?
I mean, should I start a movement for men preferring sex with redhead or brunette females and start parading around, publicly declaring this? Maybe
open a redhead-sexual-preference bar that is "blonde sexuality" friendly? Wouldn't I be labeled a shallow, sexualist pig?
Or, are we straight folk just behind the curve in marketing ourselves properly..........?
[Edited on 11-6-2013 by Hook]
I believe it's because they have been repressed for so long. If it was
considered perfectly normal to be gay and fully accepted by society I doubt that we'd see gay pride parades.
I don't believe homosexuals are born as such. I believe everybody is a product of their environment.
How do you explain the cases of twins where one is gay and one is straight?
On the surface it would be pretty much ignorant to believe sexual orientation is 100 percent a product of the environment especially since the
majority of people on the planet Earth from about 90% to 96% identify as being straight. You would think if environmental factors played such a high
role there would be more gay and especially bi people in the world. And because of the way homosexuals have been treated in the world, if human
sexuality was just a matter learned behavior, it should also be pretty easy to unlearn the behavior, but that's not the case. Most people can't
unlearn being straight or gay.
There is also the fact that many straight or gays from the time they were a small child as young as 5 or 6, they knew what their sexual orientation
was, although they had no idea what sex was. Think back to your youngest days, and I bet some "Nomad" members that special girl or boy of the opposite
sex, or same sex you had a special crushed on.
That's not to say that in some cases homosexuality can't have environmental influences and become an acquired taste like a fine wine, but clearly
sexual behavior must have the overwhelming strongest influences from nature that's inherited or even in genes.
Also according to most psychologist that study sexual behavior, they don't see sexual orientation as either being boxed in only two choices of just
gay or straight, like being either black or white, but rather they see many shades of gray and see sexual orientation on a sliding scale that's more
to one side or another, but that scale sometimes shifts around.
It makes sense because even most gays have had sexual experiences with the opposite sex, and have even been married to the opposite sex. Only a
small percentage of the population identifies of being gay, and this number is probably less than 10 percent, but according to a few studies, up to
50 percent of all men, a very high percentage of men have had at least one same-sex encounter sometime in their life!
Since there is a genetic component to being gay and since the gays do not pass it on to their descendants (they have none) it stands to reason that it
exists in the straight population. Therefore it can be isolated and identified. It will be interesting to see if prospective spouses will test one
another before marriage in order to not have to deal with the issues that gays have to deal with in their lives. Or they simply may not want to have a
gay child. Or they may want to have a gay child. Somehow I think the gay community would be opposed to such screenings.
Regarding the idea that all those that don't look favorably on gays are homophobes: I've met many latin american and asian women that do so and they
obviously can't be homophobes. My ex would never tire watching Nathan Lanes performance in the Bird Cage.
Are you really quoting NARTH, Dennis? Come on, at least make a stab at the appearance of neutrality. That's like using a study by the Brookings
Institution to prove a point about global warming.
Flamboyant queens mincing around and lisping are to the larger LGBTQ community as funeral-protesting, sign-waving Westboro Baptist Church freaks are
to the larger Christian community: the fringe.
I promise you know a lot more gay people than you think you do, because most LGBTQ people don't walk around going, "Hi, my name is Beulah and I'm a
lesbian." It's a facet of one's identity, like being tall or liking to go fishing.
Originally posted by Hook
One thing I'm not getting about the overtly gay community.
Why would you want to be singled out, largely, by the type of person you have sixx with? Why publicly emphasize your sexuality through parades,
attending gay functions, etc.? Does anyone really CARE about the gender that other people have sixx with, to the point that it must be made public?
Gay pride? You're PROUD of having sex with a specific type of person and you want the world to know? Isnt that rather shallow?
I mean, should I start a movement for men preferring sex with redhead or brunette females and start parading around, publicly declaring this? Maybe
open a redhead-sexual-preference bar that is "blonde sexuality" friendly? Wouldn't I be labeled a shallow, sexualist pig?
Or, are we straight folk just behind the curve in marketing ourselves properly..........?
[Edited on 11-6-2013 by Hook]
I believe it's because they have been repressed for so long. If it was
considered perfectly normal to be gay and fully accepted by society I doubt that we'd see gay pride parades.
What ever happened to "Don't ask, don't tell"? The Cartels still abide by that policy.
I was just thinking....any gay or lesbian or bi Nomad would not likely be open or "out" on this forum due to the type of reception ( ie. rejection)
they would experience.
The replies seem to demonstrate that some males here are intolerant while others are....kinda like there out on the calle.
Mostly male replies...it would be interesting to see if the women are more tolerant.
Obviously you spend a great deal of time to thinking about gays; you seem to be the resident expert on homosexual pathogenesis.
Just sayin'.
No. Not an inordinate amount of time. During Flu season, I devote a lot of time thinking about coughs, runny noses and diarrhea. This topic is just
getting me tuned up.
Just sayin' what? You didn't finish your comment. Are your Protease Inhibitors complicating your thought processes? Something sure as hell is.
Don't leave home without your bleach bottle. It's the way-too-late safe thing to do.
While in school ... too long ago than I wish to think about ... we studied animal populations ... this guy kinda nailed it IMHO
John B. Calhoun (May 11, 1917 – September 7, 1995) was an American ethologist and behavioral researcher noted for his studies of population density
and its effects on behavior. He claimed that the bleak effects of overpopulation on rodents were a grim model for the future of the human race. During
his studies, Calhoun coined the term "behavioral sink" to describe aberrant behaviors in overcrowded population density situations and “beautiful
ones” to describe passive individuals who withdrew from all social interaction. His work gained world recognition. He spoke at conferences around the
world and his opinion was sought by groups as diverse as NASA and the District of Columbia’s Panel on overcrowding in local jails. Calhoun's rat
studies were used as a basis in the development of Edward T. Hall's 1966 proxemics theories.
I have tremendous respect for the courage it takes for LGBTQ people to come-out and march pridefully in the streets. I can imagine the courage it
takes, because atheists are just below gays on the ladder of hatred in America and you sure don't see us jeopardizing our jobs or social status
marching for our liberty to pursue happiness.
I would expect Mexicans would have a generally pretty progressive view about sexual preference. Wasn't there a hugely popular day time Mexican TV host
who was a tranny? Look at the social status of a Mexican dwarf. Things are different SOB.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
Originally posted by Hook
One thing I'm not getting about the overtly gay community.
Why would you want to be singled out, largely, by the type of person you have sixx with? Why publicly emphasize your sexuality through parades,
attending gay functions, etc.? Does anyone really CARE about the gender that other people have sixx with, to the point that it must be made public?
Gay pride? You're PROUD of having sex with a specific type of person and you want the world to know? Isnt that rather shallow?
I mean, should I start a movement for men preferring sex with redhead or brunette females and start parading around, publicly declaring this? Maybe
open a redhead-sexual-preference bar that is "blonde sexuality" friendly? Wouldn't I be labeled a shallow, sexualist pig?
Or, are we straight folk just behind the curve in marketing ourselves properly..........?
[Edited on 11-6-2013 by Hook]
I believe it's because they have been repressed for so long. If it was
considered perfectly normal to be gay and fully accepted by society I doubt that we'd see gay pride parades.
What ever happened to "Don't ask, don't tell"? The Cartels still abide by that policy.
Good point Durrelllrobert and you kinda destroy Hook's argument about gays shoving their lifestyle down America's throat with gay parades and openly
display of affection towards other gays.
The fact is gays have been persecuted, prosecuted and discriminated against in America, and around the world, especially in the US military,
because even when the gays used to be in the closet and minding their own business. They were often drummed out of the military for supposedly
violations of DADT. BTW Don't ask, Don't tell" was I believe co-written by Republican Senator, wide stance, "I'm not gay," Larry Craig. ( I guess
wide stance Larry wanted gays in the closet like him)
One look at certain people, and you know they're gay, others it's impossible to tell. There is no denying that gays are attacked and discriminated
against just because of their lifestyle choice, or rather their sexual orientation.
The parades are as much as standing up for their basic human and constitutional rights, as it is for just coming out and being proud of who they are,
and partying and having fun.
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