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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 01:14 PM


A southern Mexican city, Juchitan de Zaragoza is historically noted to be tolerant and accepting of gay men....

http://www.3news.co.nz/Gay-men-celebrated-annually-in-Zapotec-Indian-town/tabid/417/articleID/130849/Default.aspx#.Un1EayeJSRM


I have spent a few days there on different trips to and from Central America or when touring southern Mexico. As I was buying fabrics, I stopped there because the women have a particular style of huipiles that are unique to this area...my encounters with the cross-dressers as well as less flamboyant gay men was nothing other than professional, friendly, and fun.

An informative blog page worth reading.... :


http://homendunroamin.wordpress.com/2013/07/20/of-festivals-and-fruit/


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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 01:40 PM


And then, we have J. Edgar........the scourge of communism:

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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 02:29 PM


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CULVER CITY - Tacomiendo


That place is indeed THE GRINDS. You'd have to add PEPE'S to that list, though.



Haven't been to Pepe's but I drove past it last weekend on my way to my storage locker. Will have to check it out.


Oh you have to try the Al Pastor. I believe it's the SECOND best authentic taco joint in L.A. #1 being Ricky's Fish Tacos in chinatown.

Also of great importance up here is Guerrilla Tacos. DO NOT MISS THAT! He's in Culver City in the mornings but you have to look him up on twitter to find out where.


I will check out both and I definitely need to get down to Ricky's at the new location. Have you been to Tacos Punta Cabras in Santa Monica? Excellent fish tacos, tostadas and c-cktails.




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 03:39 PM


"In 1996, the U.S. Senate voted 50–49 against the Employment Nondiscrimination Act, a bill to outlaw job discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Yesterday, the Senate passed ENDA, 64–32. But the bigger story is what didn’t happen. Only one senator spoke against the bill, and only about religious exemptions. The political resistance has completely collapsed.

The Senate’s 1996 schedule didn’t allow much time for debate. But of the 50 senators who voted down the bill, at least seven spoke on the floor against it. Here’s some of what they said:

1. [U]nder this section, homosexuality and heterosexuality must be treated entirely alike. Suppose a male teacher kisses his female spouse goodbye in front of the schoolchildren in the morning as she drops him off at school. Some might find such warmth and affection between husband and wife a good thing for the children to see. But Loudoun County would have to fire that male teacher before this bill would permit the county to fire a male teacher for kissing his male partner in front of the children at school. … [F]orcing Loudoun County to treat both situations the same, in terms of role models for schoolchildren and the other concerns parents and educators might have, is wrong.

If you have heartfelt convictions and beliefs should you, once you step out of church, be forced to hire someone whose sexual orientation offends you?

Bisexual, by definition, means promiscuous, having relations with both male and female. We are going to give that a Federal preferred protected status under this legislation.

There are thousands of former homosexuals, individuals who once were engaged in a homosexual lifestyle, who have changed that lifestyle and have repudiated it and find themselves to be engaged in heterosexual lifestyles. So it is clear to me that, while there may be a genetic base for the activity in some respects, it is clear that it is an activity of choice in other respects and that it is a choice which can be made and unmade.

The signal we send in this bill is the wrong signal. It contains seeds of real instability and inappropriate activity, seeds of litigation which could grow way out of hand and send the wrong signals to young people and provide a special standing and class—not based upon existence and construction but upon conduct. Not based upon sex but upon sexual activity.

ENDA would elevate sexual orientation to a much higher level, giving Federal protection and sanction, almost a Federal acceptance to promiscuity.

Should the Senate run roughshod over the concerns of parents and educators about having homosexuals teach their kids?

The American people have never regarded homosexuality or bisexuality as the moral or legal equivalent of heterosexuality, whether in the workplace or not.

Is [Congress] now going to tell every private employer in America that, regardless of his or her own moral judgment, homosexuality and bisexuality are just another orientation that Congress has decreed to be irrelevant?

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., delivered the closing statement against the bill. “ENDA, in my opinion, is part of a larger attempt to equate, by law … homosexuality, bisexuality, or heterosexuality. This is part of a larger campaign to validate or to approve conduct that remains illegal in many States,” he said. “It would put the full force of the Federal Government behind the campaign to validate a lifestyle that is unacceptable in many areas.” Lott concluded that “this legislation is out of sync with the majority of American people."

This week, as the Senate reconsidered ENDA, no one repeated those arguments.  In the floor debate, no one equated homosexuality or bisexuality with promiscuity. No one claimed that homosexuality was a choice or was relevant to employment. No one suggested that gay people shouldn’t teach kids or that it was fine to reject a job applicant because her orientation “offends you.”

The Senate Republican leader said nothing. Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah—the man who in 1996 defended the right of Loudoun County to fire a gay teacher, but not a straight one, for kissing his partner while being dropped off at school—voted for the bill this time. And Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind.—who protested in 1996 that ENDA would “give the Federal stamp of approval to activities that are still considered illegal in many States”—was reduced yesterday to requesting broader exemptions for religious freedom.

The vote on ENDA was far from unanimous. But the silence of its opponents is deafening. They know that the tide has turned against them. Many Americans still think that homosexuality is a choice or an illness, that gays shouldn’t be teachers, and that any employer should be free to make hiring decisions based on sexual orientation. But these Americans can no longer find a politician willing to say such things on the Senate floor."
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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 03:39 PM


Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:



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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 04:07 PM


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Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

Ahem. The taco is a thing to be revered, not merely tolerated. Now you will excuse me while I get back to my attempted thread hijack . . . .




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 04:46 PM


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Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:



Tolerance is subjective and personal, except when others insist you see things their way. Then...it's oppressive bullcrap.
If pride is a result of accomplishments, then gays have that earned distinction, but I don't have to celebrate that.
It ain't my thing.
Add to that, they aren't celebrating a birth right. Only Royals do that.
But, then again, they, the self-righteous gay community can be a royal pain..[I won't say, "in the arse" because it would just encourage them.]
Have fun, homos, but don't tell me I have to understand, like, or accept it.
Stay out of my life.




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 05:00 PM


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Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

Ahem. The taco is a thing to be revered, not merely tolerated. Now you will excuse me while I get back to my attempted thread hijack . . . .
no, youre good! :lol:

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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 05:16 PM


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Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

Ahem. The taco is a thing to be revered, not merely tolerated. Now you will excuse me while I get back to my attempted thread hijack . . . .
no, youre good! :lol:



I've been there. It's in the middle of Guadalajara's pink district, near Federalísimo and Juárez. I hope they're better at being gay than they are at making tacos, because... ¡guácatelos!
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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 05:26 PM


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no, youre good! :lol:




Never cared for rolled tacos. Always preferred those that looked vaginal.




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 05:27 PM


...and I was about ready to praise his Photoshop skills....



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Hmmmmm....seems like some folks have more tolerance for tacos :biggrin:

Ahem. The taco is a thing to be revered, not merely tolerated. Now you will excuse me while I get back to my attempted thread hijack . . . .
no, youre good! :lol:



I've been there. It's in the middle of Guadalajara's pink district, near Federalísimo and Juárez. I hope they're better at being gay than they are at making tacos, because... ¡guácatelos!


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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 05:39 PM


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.....Never cared for rolled tacos. Always preferred those that looked vaginal.


While that is your preference, have you ever gobbled up a rolled one? :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 05:59 PM


I have personally believed since I was quite young that homosexuality was a genetic thing as opposed to an environmental thing.

While certainly not dispositive, there is certainly some food for thought.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/gay-straight-face-s...
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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 08:09 PM


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While that is your preference, have you ever gobbled up a rolled one? :biggrin:



I've never done that with anything. I was raised in a Yacht Club. :yes:




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 09:14 PM


D...and now you live in punta banda????...geezus...what a nosedive!!....you KNOW i luvs ya.



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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 10:32 PM


20 years ago this discussion would have been ugly if not impossible. If I were smart enough I could write a Readers Digest style article about my gay boss/publisher who would occasionally take me to La Fonda for dinner to have a "man's night out" when he got tired of the gay stuff. I will share that story some day.

Dennis, I understand your opinion. Still love ya. :lol:
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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 10:49 PM


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no, youre good! :lol:




Never cared for rolled tacos. Always preferred those that looked vaginal.

To eat or to do something else with them? Leave the tacos out of it. They never did anything to offend you.




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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 12:19 AM


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..... Leave the tacos out of it. They never did anything to offend you.


I had some tacos in Mazamitla last year that offended me .....and el bano for 34 hours :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 09:07 AM


We have this taqueria here in half moon bay - "Taco Feliz". I wonder if the owner is trying to tell us something.
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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 09:51 AM


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We have this taqueria here in half moon bay - "Taco Feliz". I wonder if the owner is trying to tell us something.




You mean this guy??

http://tinyurl.com/mrypr5p




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