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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 07:32 PM
Proof of income amount


Does anyone know how much proof of income one needs to retire or live in Mexico? They are asking for this in immigration?
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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 07:35 PM


How much you got ? :biggrin:
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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 08:12 PM


It depends on what you want to do and where you are, hopefully you aren't in La Paz, "new sheriff in town", new rules, no reason, no common sense, the rules and requirements change from day to day, location to location, person to person....welcome to MX immigration...

I have been trying to get my residente permanente status for over a month now, it isn't going to happen, you wouldn't believe the hoops I've jumpped through, I quit.....

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by dtbushpilot]




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 08:12 PM


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Originally posted by bajachris
Does anyone know how much proof of income one needs to retire or live in Mexico? They are asking for this in immigration?


From INM's website:

1. Monthly income of 500 times the daily minimum wage in Mexico City. Show six months of history.

OR

2. An account with a balance of 25,000 times the daily minimum wage in Mexico City. Show twelve months of history.

In US terms at today's exchange rate, about

1. $2,400 USD/month

OR

2. An account balance of $120,000 USD.
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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 08:15 PM
It's complicated..


I will send you a u2u with this info, courtesy of Mulagena .



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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 08:18 PM


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1. $2,400 USD/month



I don't think you need that much for "Residente Temporada" which you can maintain endlessly. Problem is, it has to be periodically renewed




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 08:28 PM


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Originally posted by bajachris
Does anyone know how much proof of income one needs to retire or live in Mexico? They are asking for this in immigration?


From INM's website:

1. Monthly income of 500 times the daily minimum wage in Mexico City. Show six months of history.

OR

2. An account with a balance of 25,000 times the daily minimum wage in Mexico City. Show twelve months of history.

In US terms at today's exchange rate, about

1. $2,400 USD/month

OR

2. An account balance of $120,000 USD.



I would respectfully say that the IMM web site doesn't mean squat. It is up to the interpretation of the local IMM boss. I don't know if my facilitator did something to pi$$ him off or what is up but I know that I had all the documentation you list, not either or, but both. Not one account for both me and my wife but separate accounts in each of our names showing both income and total funds required. I was asked for proof that I was retired, he wanted a letter from the US government proving that we were retired! I had the company that we worked for send a letter showing our retirement dates and stating that we recieved a pension from the company but that wasn't satisfactory, he wanted our official retirement letter from the US government that all US citizens get from the government when they retire......no, really....you can't make this stuff up.

We won't be getting our P/R designation this year.....




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 08:52 PM


chris, here's how it worked for me, I just did it in San Diego at the Mexican consulate... you must "show" , ( three months of bank statements ), of at least $2100 of "income", being an outlaw, I had "mail deposits" that added up to $2100... on my bank statements... if your, respectful, careful and polite and have all the other paperwork covered there will be no problem... speaking or attempting to speak their language is a plus... be ready for mistakes, I went and had a "talk" first, took notes and returned three months later and presto!!!... buena suerta amigo
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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 08:55 PM


Thanks all! Your all so helpful!
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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 09:07 PM


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... he wanted our official retirement letter from the US government that all US citizens get from the government when they retire......no, really....you can't make this stuff up.

We won't be getting our P/R designation this year.....


Sorry to hear the La Paz office has turned against giving P/R status. It's my wife's turn to start this in about 6 weeks. This does not bode well.....

It's interesting how HE phrased the request for the proof of retirement letter. I was asked for the EXACT same letter in EXACTLY the same manner about ten years ago.

By a bank official when I tried to open a bank account??????

I told the bank that no such letter exists. The bank official then pulled out somebody else's letter from the Social Security Administration showing how much their benefit check would be and said "You need a letter just like this guy's. You are not retired until you receive the letter??????"

I just went to a different bank.....

That's not an option with INM.

But it's very interesting that there seems to be this myth about an official retirement letter from the US Govt showing income.

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by RnR]
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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 05:55 AM


I used a facilitator last year and finally went down to INM myself because of problems my facilitator was having, The guy at INM told me that they didn't want facilitators there, they wanted the actual person. My paperwork was rushed right through once I got involved.

Edit to say this was in La Paz.

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by Katiejay99]
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the Calexico Consulate was fairly easy for resident temporale. Needed 12 months of $100K balance in investments. Or 6 months of income $2000/mo proved by bank statements and/or SS letter. 4 yrs temporale then on to permanente. English was spoken. I emailed first for requirements. Waited for about 3 hrs in lobby. only glitch was the income/investments must be in the same account for the entire time.



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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 07:27 AM


If it was me I would go into the INM office and ask them how much income is required, and then scan my bank statement and using photoshop make my statement say double what they want to see. But that's just me.
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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 08:33 AM


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But it's very interesting that there seems to be this myth about an official retirement letter from the US Govt showing income.

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by RnR]





I'm sure with a little creativity you could "obtain" that letter from the US Bureau of Retirement :lol:




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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 08:55 AM


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But it's very interesting that there seems to be this myth about an official retirement letter from the US Govt showing income.

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by RnR]


I'm sure with a little creativity you could "obtain" that letter from the US Bureau of Retirement...


Do you think that someone might have used the SSA letter most folks receive just prior to that "magic date" (wherein projected income is noted) and called that an "Official Retirement" letter?

...or am I just stating the obvious?

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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 08:56 AM
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Did you need to get the documents translated into Spanish?


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the Calexico Consulate was fairly easy for resident temporale. Needed 12 months of $100K balance in investments. Or 6 months of income $2000/mo proved by bank statements and/or SS letter. 4 yrs temporale then on to permanente. English was spoken. I emailed first for requirements. Waited for about 3 hrs in lobby. only glitch was the income/investments must be in the same account for the entire time.




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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 09:08 AM


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I don't think you need that much for "Residente Temporada" which you can maintain endlessly. Problem is, it has to be periodically renewed


Due to the new laws, after four years of Residente Temporal you must go to Residente Permanente. You can't renew them indefinitely any longer.

INM website - http://www.inm.gob.mx/index.php/page/Solicitud_de_Estancia



[Edited on 11-9-2013 by greengoes]




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If it was me I would go into the INM office and ask them how much income is required, and then scan my bank statement and using photoshop make my statement say double what they want to see. But that's just me.
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:lol::lol::lol:

Just make sure to print it out in color and hit with a few rubber stamps using green and red ink...it impresses.




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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 09:27 AM


Dave, I received my Residente Permanente card at the Mexican Consulate in Santa Ana, Ca. After I showed them all the paperwork required plus two passport photos, the issued me and Jana a card the same day.


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It depends on what you want to do and where you are, hopefully you aren't in La Paz, "new sheriff in town", new rules, no reason, no common sense, the rules and requirements change from day to day, location to location, person to person....welcome to MX immigration...

I have been trying to get my residente permanente status for over a month now, it isn't going to happen, you wouldn't believe the hoops I've jumpped through, I quit.....

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by dtbushpilot]




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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 09:42 AM
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I realize that I am completely behind the curve but why will I need this temporary residence status if I live North of Ensenada?
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