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[*] posted on 11-7-2013 at 06:34 PM
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A spritz of reality...


MANILA, Philippines (AP) — One of the most powerful typhoons ever recorded slammed into the Philippines early Friday, and one weather expert warned, "There will be catastrophic damage."

The U.S. Navy's Joint Typhoon Warning Center shortly before Typhoon Haiyan's landfall said its maximum sustained winds were 314 kilometers per hour (195 mph), with gusts up to 379 kilometers per hour (235 mph).




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[*] posted on 11-7-2013 at 07:25 PM


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...that's just NUTZ!!....may all be well
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[*] posted on 11-7-2013 at 07:26 PM
OUCH !!


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[*] posted on 11-7-2013 at 07:33 PM


Very sad and yes, I am thankful.




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[*] posted on 11-7-2013 at 07:59 PM
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I just read confirmend gust at 230....Holy --it!!! this planet is a changing....okee dokeee !!
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[*] posted on 11-7-2013 at 09:15 PM
Massive Size!




[Edited on 2013-11-8 by bryanmckenzie]

[Edited on 2013-11-8 by bryanmckenzie]




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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 11:46 PM


Was at Cubi Point, Subic Bay in the early 70's protecting all my college buds from Communists when a huge storm hit. All food was cut off - lived off canned food for weeks. Daily we went out (USN) into the town to help with getting people food, water, safety. Amazing what that storm did - can't imagine this one. Many people live right on the water - Unless you've been there it's hard to imagine how these storms change lives in a negative way. Thoughts/prayers go out to all.
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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 10:33 AM


Haiyan expected to hit Vietnam tomorrow and do more damage than the US did while we were there.



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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 12:48 PM


Te reason I posted this is to afford an idea of what could happen if a category 5 hurricane should come north to the peninsula. A category 5 is otherworldly.






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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 01:01 PM
So Many Things to Worry About


This morning I saw on the news that a Dr. Suzuki presented a report about the after effects of the 9.0 earthquake in Japan that destroyed the nuclear power plant.

He said that the Japanese government is not supervising the clean up and rebuilding - that letting Tokyo Electric, a private, for-profit enterprise take charge of the repairs is akin to the fox supervising the hen house.

He says that another earthquake of that magnitude is a reality and when it happens, the entire west coast of the U.S. would need to be evacuated.

Yikes...that means I'd better attend as many happy hours at Splash! as possible. :biggrin:

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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 01:34 PM


North northern California, Oregon and Washington are said to be vulnerable to a tsunami. From there south, much less so. An undersea landslide is supposed to be the very worst thing that can happen in the creation of a tsunami. Apparently this is not a huge factor. A tsunami that would start out with a 100' potential in Japan would weaken to ten feet or less by the time it reached the west coast of the US. Such is the nature of physics in geology.



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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 02:43 PM


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North northern California, Oregon and Washington are said to be vulnerable to a tsunami. From there south, much less so. An undersea landslide is supposed to be the very worst thing that can happen in the creation of a tsunami. Apparently this is not a huge factor. A tsunami that would start out with a 100' potential in Japan would weaken to ten feet or less by the time it reached the west coast of the US. Such is the nature of physics in geology.




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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 03:38 PM
west coast


there is a current that comes over from japan in a clockwise pattern that stops midway down Baja and then returns back...I forgot how to spell that beach where you can find all kinds of stuff (malarrimo) any how looks like nick year stuff from japan is going to be floating up onto are beaches in wa,org,ca and BCN...and also add the" pacific ring of fire"yikes"...were Doomed...LOL..:lol:

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[*] posted on 11-9-2013 at 03:50 PM
Kuroshio current + California Current--> Vizcaino peninsual/Malarrimo beach debris


Yes, at Malarrimo Beach (same name as business in GN) on the Vizcaino peninsula, the Kuroshio current (travels northward from Japan) combines with the long California current to deposit all sorts of things that keep beachcombers and oceanographers busy.

It provides way to track debris that is washed overboard/sunk with shipwrecks and measure the speed/direction of the current.

Most (in)famous case was when a freighter carrying Nike athletic shoes lost a container. The buoyant shoes were used as a reliable way to measure the distance/speed/direction of debris.




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there is a current that comes over from japan in a clockwise pattern that stops midway down Baja and then returns back...I forgot how to spell that beach where you can find all kinds of stuff (maraollo) any how looks like nick year stuff from japan is going to be floating up onto are beaches in wa,org,ca and BCN...and also add the" pacific ring of fire"yikes"...were Doomed...LOL..:lol:



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[*] posted on 11-10-2013 at 07:42 AM


There seems to be some confusion in the reporting and misquotes with some papers repeating kph for mph and many discrepancies in the reports.

the highest wind reported by the philipines weather service is 235 kph or 147 mph.

http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/wb/tcarchive_files.html

http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/wb/wbfcst.html

Philipines news reports 150 dead not 10,000

http://anc.yahoo.com/video/ndrrmc-151-dead-due-yolanda-01161...

It's a tragedy but not as bad as some have reported.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2013 at 03:54 PM
O.K. The Wind Blew THIS HARD






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[*] posted on 11-11-2013 at 05:15 PM
Damn! The B.B.C. Is Soooo Flaky


Philippine President Benigno Aquino has declared a state of national calamity to speed relief efforts for victims of Typhoon Haiyan.

In a statement, he said the two worst affected provinces, Leyte and Samar, had suffered massive destruction and loss of life.

Thousands of survivors are still desperately waiting for the aid effort to reach them.

At least 10,000 people are feared to have been killed.

Tacloban is one of the worst affected cities. The BBC's Jon Donnison, who is there, says there does not yet seem to be an effective operation to get help to those in need.

This is expected to change over the next few days, he says.




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[*] posted on 11-11-2013 at 10:57 PM


So where is the flakey part?


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Philippine President Benigno Aquino has declared a state of national calamity to speed relief efforts for victims of Typhoon Haiyan.

In a statement, he said the two worst affected provinces, Leyte and Samar, had suffered massive destruction and loss of life.

Thousands of survivors are still desperately waiting for the aid effort to reach them.

At least 10,000 people are feared to have been killed.

Tacloban is one of the worst affected cities. The BBC's Jon Donnison, who is there, says there does not yet seem to be an effective operation to get help to those in need.

This is expected to change over the next few days, he says.




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[*] posted on 11-12-2013 at 11:28 AM


There isn't any. I was vetting my frustration in the form of sarcasm. I made friends in the Philippines and to see anyone suffer like these folks and then have someone trivialize it just got to me. Sorry. My original intention was and is to show a hurricane is not a hurricane. If a category 5 ever forms and comes north to the peninsula it is time to take drastic action. I do not want to ever see another one.



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[*] posted on 11-12-2013 at 11:52 AM


Almost got a Cat 5 with Linda in 1997----was heading towards Abreojos and veered off luckily. Guillermo, another Cat 5 the same year but didn't get close to Baja. Nora crossed the peninsula in 1997 as well somewhere in the Seven Sisters but it had weakened to a Cat 1 or TS by then. Even as a weakened storm we still had steady light winds and rain in San Clemente while the center of Nora went thru Arizona...quite an El Nino year 1997.
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