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durrelllrobert
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I don't know where you are located or what immigration status you are trying to obtain but in my case to go from an FM2 to a RP status at the INM
office in Ensenada I did not have to provide any bank statements or other proof of income.
Since my wife is classified as my dependent she went from an FM3 to a RP without having to provide anything either. We both did all the paperwork
ourselves and the people in the Ensenada office speak English.
Bob Durrell
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BajaBlanca
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Dave, you are right to be frustrated. What a mess and for no good reason.
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bajachris
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Do u really want to let the government in Mexico know that you have $100,000 in savings? Wouldn't that put a target on your back? I know every
government agency is honest and all, but what's to say the information gets into the wrongs hands.....
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RnR
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajachris
Do u really want to let the government in Mexico know that you have $100,000 in savings? Wouldn't that put a target on your back? I know every
government agency is honest and all, but what's to say the information gets into the wrongs hands..... |
Gotta agree....
Then just show sufficient income. It's either/or, not both.
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by RnR
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajachris
Do u really want to let the government in Mexico know that you have $100,000 in savings? Wouldn't that put a target on your back? I know every
government agency is honest and all, but what's to say the information gets into the wrongs hands..... |
Gotta agree....
Then just show sufficient income. It's either/or, not both. |
Regarding bank statements:
Leave your name(s) only.
Remove by white-out your personal info. including your address and especially the account number.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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bajagrouper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by huesos
I realize that I am completely behind the curve but why will I need this temporary residence status if I live North of Ensenada?
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So north of Ensenada is not Mexico?
You can just do a border run every 180 days and live on an FMM........
I hear the whales song
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajagrouper
| Quote: | Originally posted by huesos
I realize that I am completely behind the curve but why will I need this temporary residence status if I live North of Ensenada?
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So north of Ensenada is not Mexico?
You can just do a border run every 180 days and live on an FMM........ |
The operative word is "LIVE", not "tourist" or "visit". Why encourage illegal behavior.......just because "everyone does it"????
Be legal and get the temporary resident card.
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Hook
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Is there any country that is a bigger bureaucratic mess than Mexico? How could there be? And yet she aspires to be more than just a third world
country.
I can understand political messes like our US politicians frequently get into. It's a clash of values with some showmanship mixed in.
But once a law is a law, the US bureaucrats are on the same page 99% of the time, with respect to administering the law.
I cant think of a Mexican agency that gets it right even 50% of the time.......
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajagrouper
| Quote: | Originally posted by huesos
I realize that I am completely behind the curve but why will I need this temporary residence status if I live North of Ensenada?
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So north of Ensenada is not Mexico?
You can just do a border run every 180 days and live on an FMM........ |
The operative word is "LIVE", not "tourist" or "visit". Why encourage illegal behavior.......just because "everyone does it"????
Be legal and get the temporary resident card. |
The verbage "north of Ensenada" or "live vs. visit" is irrelevant in determining temporary residency eligibility.
if you plan to be in Mexico 180 days or less, it is perfectly legal and appropriate to hold only a tourist visa. This is a particularly valid practice
if you don't own property or have legal holdings in-country.
To do so is not illegal.
Edited to add that one can buy and sell property in Mexico on a tourist visa, too; not illegal.
The operative in determining visas begins with the time one spends in-country.
[Edited on 11-10-2013 by Mulegena]
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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binky
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I am delaying RP status as if I get it I will have to sell my beloved car (US plated) as RPs cannot keep a US car and must get a Mexican plated car.
It's something to keep in mind.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by binky
I am delaying RP status as if I get it I will have to sell my beloved car (US plated) as RPs cannot keep a US car and must get a Mexican plated car.
It's something to keep in mind. |
You may want to research this further. When we picked up our RP cards, I asked the Ensenada INM office about that and was told that provision of the
RP status only applies to the mainland, not the Frontier (Baja)
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Is there any country that is a bigger bureaucratic mess than Mexico? How could there be? And yet she aspires to be more than just a third world
country.
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Yep, that would be the US Immigration office. After 2 years and spending close to $2k trying to get my Canadian wife a Permanent Resident card for the
US she was sent a letter to appear at the US Consulate in Juarez for a physical exam and an interview.
Between the various exams in different areas of the privately owned clinic and the waiting in between they took more than 4 hours.
MEXICO DOES NOT REQUIRE PHYSICALEXAMINATIONS FOR THEIR RPs.
Next she stood in line for about 2 hours for her interview and even though we had provided all the documentation they had requested it took the
interviewer 2 hours more to tell her request for the US RP card was being rejecedt because she did not provide proof that she was involved in a
PHYSICAL RELATIONSHIP with me and that without it they could only assume that she had only married me 2 years earlier to get the RP. When she asked
what they meant by "physical" relationship she was told they meant a sexual relationship. Then she asked what kind of proof was required to show that
and was told we don't need photos but some written statements from third parties attesting to the fact that they KNOW for a fact that you are having
sex with your husband (??did they watch??).
MEXICO DOES NOT ASK FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
We forged a couple of letters stating what they asked for and requested a second interview in Juarez to appeal their decision. Three months later it
was scheduled and we again drove to Juarez. This time the interview only took about 6 hours waiting and presenting the "PROOF"and she was finally
approved.
Then she was told that she would have to pick up the approval letter at the DHL office because it had to be officially delivered and they could not
just hand it to her. Since it was late in the day DHL would not get it until the next AM so we had to spend another night in Juarez.
MEXICO JUST HANDS YOU THEIR RP CARD.
When she picked up her package the instructions inside stated that she would have to WALK across the bridge to the immigration office in El Paso where
they would issue her a Temporary Permanent Resident card (good for 1 year) so that she could enter the US and that process took another 4 hours of
mostly waiting.
In the meantime I drove across the bridge and there was no parking at the office so I had to go into town to find a parking lot and take a cab back to
the office.
IN MEXICO EVERYTHING IS DONE IN THE SAME OFFICE AND THEIR IS NO SUCH THING AS A "TEMPORARY" PERMANRNT RESIDENT.
I'll take the Mexican "bureaucratic mess" any day.
Bob Durrell
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Hook
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Your Canadian wife wants a permanent resident card for the US and you applied for it in Mexico at a US consulate?
Anyway, you missed my point, Bob. Regardless of whether you think getting this card made you jump through a lot of unnecessary hoops, EVERYONE IN THE
SAME SITUATION HAS TO JUMP THROUGH THE SAME HOOPS, 99% OF THE TIME IN THE US.
In Mexico, there are a closet full of hoops. Each individual bureaucrat has his own set of hoops in that closet. In fact, each one has a set for each
day of the week. Then, there are the hoops they favor on days they are in a bad mood.
This set of hoops is NOT interchangeable from office to office.
And, of course, some of the OLD hoops from the previous set of hoop rules are also in this closet.
All of this creates HOOPLA...........
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DavidE
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It's no joke that the head of SECTUR drunkenly joked several years ago...
"Mexico wants the extraneous to fly in, blow a hundred thousand pesos in a week and then leave."
En Vino Veritus
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
It's no joke that the head of SECTUR drunkenly joked several years ago...
"Mexico wants the extraneous to fly in, blow a hundred thousand pesos in a week and then leave."
En Vino Veritus |
Your quote "... extraneous to... blow... and leave." rings with some truth, although you may have translated by faux pas a double endendre the Spanish
word "extranjeros". As you know extranjeros means foreigners, which is how I often feel the foreigners here are perceived, as curiously extraneous,
their monied presence accepted, needed, but never to be integrated fully.
As far as the requirement to obtain advanced visa status, i.e. beyond the simple $250peso tourist visa, the need to hire facilitators and obtain
increasingly expensive residency visas, well, that in itself brings in alot of revenue, legal and illegal, above-board and under-the-table.
If you study the requirements for visas there's very little reason for many, if not most, foreigners to have more than the simple tourist visa. Think
about it. Even if you're a property owner or business owner, you're perfectly legal to have a tourist visa and leave the country twice a year and
return with a new tourist visa.
If you do happen to be committed to a lifetime in the country, never leave, then the more costly Temporary and Permanent Resident visas or becoming an
immigrant and obtaining Mexican citizenship are warranted, imo.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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