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DavidE
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This is more fun than squishing c-ckroaches on the floor of the kitchen at 0300 in my bare feet...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
This is more fun than squishing c-ckroaches on the floor of the kitchen at 0300 in my bare feet... |
Look out for Joe.
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
I think Lee might have a point here, because |
Oh Joe....you silly little delusional A-rab. Quite trying to start trouble.
How did you escape from the constraints of the OT? Someone should be out looking for you with a Thorazine injection. |
Dennis when OT type of threads, and posts are out here in the main area of "Baja Nomad" I will sometimes out to play here too. In fact in the OT, the
homophobia is way down, I'm sorry I can't say the same for out here.
And really Dennis I'm just making a comment how Mexican women will sometimes talk about certain eligible bachelors in their circles of friends or
family.
I'm sure you were even asked Dennis, why aren't you married? Of course as one gets older, those types of questions are asked less often.
[Edited on 11-11-2013 by JoeJustJoe]
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EnsenadaDr
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Dennis, would you mind quoting the response on the PBBB about Manny you gave when someone criticized him?
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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"I'm sure you were even asked Dennis, why aren't you married? Of course as one gets older, those types of questions are asked less often."
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This is a question often asked by WOMEN. I have never been asked by a man, only by a woman. One old matriarch asked me "Have you a woman señor?"
Brenda, chimed right in -- he'd better have had - I am his daughter". She turned beet red. The question is a pure woman's mind game.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Dennis, would you mind quoting the response on the PBBB about Manny you gave when someone criticized him? |
Yeah....I mind.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
This is more fun than squishing c-ckroaches on the floor of the kitchen at 0300 in my bare feet... |
Look out for Joe. |
OK....heel first. Do everybody a favor.
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No, David.....it is nOT different than what I think....as what you added is what I know ....and I think that their social structure is matrilineal as
well.
I never suggested that it was typical or representative of Mexico, but is an example of tolerance.
Is your soap comment indicative of your tolerance?
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"A southern Mexican city, Juchitan de Zaragoza is historically noted to be tolerant and accepting of gay men...."
Juchi is a lot more different than you think. Women run the place. Women are the head of the family in Zapoteco country. Presidentes Municipales are
women. In Tehunatepéc, Salina Cruz, Tepanetepéc, the society is matriarchal. The wimmmens go around in public brightly dressed with headdresses. This
would not make for a representative sample for the country.
The guys get to plan fiestas, steal money out of the cookie jar to play la loteria and avoid bending over to pick up the soap in the shower.
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Don't believe everything you think....
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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No. As a matter of fact it is a direct confrontation, a statement if you will aimed at GAY INTOLERANCE. As someone neutral, I get tired mighty quick
of being abused by people on extreme sides of any issue about tolerance. The gay community radicals take an aggressive stance of "If you aren't
totally for us, then you have to be totally against us". I tease both sides. Unfortunately many in the gay community cannot laugh at themselves. They
become obnoxious and aggressive.
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Gypsy Jan
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Go Away or Stay?
OK folks, as the OP (Original Poster) I am flattered that my small question got so many Nomads involved.
I have learned a great deal from the responses.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
The gay community radicals take an aggressive stance of "If you aren't totally for us, then you have to be totally against us".
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OK...whatever they say. Who am I to argue? But, first...we have to define "Us."
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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THEM Dennis. They march, they threaten, they cajole, and they insult people in the middle. I likes wimmens. Hugs and kissies. If I drive a Chevrolet I
don't need to bolt on a Ford emblem. Green Stop Signs. Get the picture?
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
THEM Dennis. They march, they threaten, they cajole, and they insult people in the middle. I likes wimmens. Hugs and kissies. If I drive a Chevrolet I
don't need to bolt on a Ford emblem. Green Stop Signs. Get the picture? |
David can you give us an example how gays , threaten, they cajole, and they insult people in the middle?
It sounds like you're at a gay pride parade? If so what are you doing there?
David did you support Prop 8( against same-sex marriage) or did you vote against prop 8? ( for same-sex marriage)
"Proposition 8 would have circumvented the 2008 ruling by adding the same provision as in Proposition 22 to the California Constitution, providing
that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
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I'm going out on a limb here and say you probably would have been for prop 8, and if so, you were voting against the rights of certain Americans of
the same sex from marrying each other, and I wouldn't call that neural at all if you supported prop 8, and even if you don't live in California, you
must have had an opinion on the proposal.
If you were against prop 8 that would be great.
But the way I and many other liberal and pro-gay rights viewed prop 8 as pure bigotry. You were either against gay marriage on religious grounds,
which is religious bigotry, or you were against same-sex marriage for pure bigotry, as we can't see any other reason to deny people the right to marry
anybody they want, as long as they're adults.
The chief justice that ruled on the case found no rational basis for denying same-sex couples the right to marry.
[Edited on 11-12-2013 by JoeJustJoe]
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DavidE
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Limb?
Sonny you ain't even in the same forest...
Had I been ANYWHERE NEAR the EUA I would have looked at the proposition. But I wasn't, so I didn't. It's tough to register with zero communications.
But I remember small things, like suddenly seeing a sign next to my campsite several years ago. Actually it was a banner hung on a palapa "WE'RE HERE
AND WE'RE QUEER!!!" A couple with X chromosomes. So I went into town, purchased six fluorescent poster boards and a magic marker. Up went the sign
held with duct tape...
I DON'T LIKE WOMEN WHO SMELL LIKE FISH
Took it personally? Oh hell yes. I was a gay basher. The reddest of necks. A regular Rush Limbaugh Ditto Head. Newt Gingrich was a commie compared to
me.
I do not take kindly to stuff shoved down my throat, got it? People have PRIVATE rights. A right not to be molested by ANYONE fronting for ANY kind of
agenda. Got THAT? Dig the word MOLESTED.
Of course now you have me LUMPED into the "anti-gay" category. WHY? I'll tell you WHY...You did not read my replies. You breezed over the top of my
comments about how I dislike IN YOUR FACE aggressiveness. How I narrowed my complaint to only the radical element. Like folks who string up a four
foot by eight foot banner on a campsite next to mine.
Now you have me voting contrary to your preferences.
What's next amigo?
I can't wait.
The hell I can't...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Get the picture? |
Thank Gawd....no.
Did you press Joe into the loseta last night? Try again tonight if not.
Keep up the good fight, Big D. Purity of species propagation is worth it. 
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Skeet/Loreto
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After many years living in Baja and being involved with the mesicans People I found them to be very Tolorant.
There was a Gay Bar across the street from where I lived, I met and Talked with many of the the people visiting that Bar.
The Problem with some of the Gays at this time is their insane Idea to make everybody think the way they do. Impossible.
The Religious People have their right to beleive as they see Fit.
The Gay People have their right to beleive in they way they see Fit.
I do not think Gays getting married is a Natrual thing to do/ They should find another Word to fit instead of Marriage.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
The Religious People have their right to beleive as they see Fit.
The Gay People have their right to beleive in they way they see Fit.
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But, Skeeter......some gays are religious too. Not all, but some.
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I do not think Gays getting married is a Natrual thing to do/ They should find another Word to fit instead of Marriage.
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I agree. Perhaps they should call it "Using David's Soap." They could say things like, "I'm not available....I'm using David's soap."
Ain't diversity b-tchen?
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The issue with that is that the word 'marriage' brings with it all kinds of rights and responsibilities. "Oh, that's my husband in that hospital
room."
Find a different word for civil marriage for everyone, no matter the gender, and you can keep the word 'marriage' for religion. I seriously don't
care. Equality is the issue—not being able to file jointly, not having spousal privilege, not being able to inherit probate-free, not being allowed to
sponsor someone for citizenship, and about eleven hundred other things spouses are allowed to do without people even batting an eyelash.
There are plenty of other legal issues besides marriage—you can be fired for being gay (or being thought of as gay) in 29 of the 50 states. Gay people
cannot donate blood, in many states they cannot adopt children, and many states don't have anti-discrimination laws. The list goes on.
I don't want people to think the way I do. I want them to leave me the @$#% alone and allow me to exercise the same rights regardless of the gender of
the person I want to spend the rest of my life with. I want friends of mine, who are lesbians and who just celebrated their 20th year together, to be
able to have spousal rights without spending tens of thousands of dollars on legal contracts that will simply be ignored by those in charge when the
chips are down anyway.
I'm pretty laissez-faire, Dennis, and my "activism" as far from "in your face" as it gets, but there comes a time when I get tired of having to live
life as a second-class citizen because people are unable to hear the word 'bisexual' without thinking of buttsecks.
What you do in the bedroom has absolutely no bearing on my opinion of you, and I expect the same courtesy. That's all.
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
.... So I went into town, purchased six fluorescent poster boards and a magic marker. Up went the sign held with duct tape...
I DON'T LIKE WOMEN WHO SMELL LIKE FISH.....
I do not take kindly to stuff shoved down my throat, got it? People have PRIVATE rights. A right not to be molested by ANYONE fronting for ANY kind of
agenda. Got THAT? Dig the word MOLESTED.
Of course now you have me LUMPED into the "anti-gay" category. WHY? I'll tell you WHY...You did not read my replies. You breezed over the top of my
comments about how I dislike IN YOUR FACE aggressiveness. ......
What's next amigo?
I can't wait.
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David ,
A rather adolescent response with your poster... 
And some pretty "In your face" comments, despite your stated position of such behaviour 
You seem to land on one side of the tolerance fence....like Dennis.
Oh, well....that is what the question was....thanks for being open about how you see it.
Don't believe everything you think....
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