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| Quote: | Originally posted by jimgrms
Just as long as the hotel don't have hourly rates listed )) |
Hay, but they are cheaper that way. I saw a billboard in Mexicali that said $25 per night, $10 for 4 hours. It didn't give the hourly rate.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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I love "El Conquistador" in Gucamayas Michoacan, for the signage.
Neon Sign. Image of suit of armor Spaniard carrying half naked Aztec princess, who has her arms wrapped around his neck. Jeez is it a no-tell or what?
"Sí señor, nuestras camas son de lo mejor. Alta calidad cada uno. Usted puede poner sobre el colchón. Cada resorte puede contar".
"Yes sir, out beds are the best. Every one of the highest quality. You can lay on the mattress and count every spring".
I had to spend a fortune in Las Peñas to achieve USA comfort mattresses. This was before the advent of memory foam. Multiple layers of different
density foam. Five inches thick of foam sandwich. The customers loved them. Some even extended their stay because the mattress comfort surprised them.
I put in a "nature stroll" about 200 meters in length. Signage in Español, Ingles, Francois, and German. Describing trees, flowers, bird's nests, and
an iguana hangout. Several hummingbird feeders. Children, loved to see the hummingbird "wars" where a dominant one would try and chase smaller birds
away. I hung two more across the patio, the idiot aggressive bird would cross the patio and the other hummingbirds would return to the abandoned ones.
What a hoot! I planted a bougainvillea riot, with seven different colors. In four years they grew to massive size and all the adjoining brachs colors
merged and blended. It was spectacular. I had several photographers from México City and Guadalajara come and stay. The photos went into glossy
magazines.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
... and LESS than $50/night, with color satellite TV, bottled U.S. water at no charge, coffee maker, 24 hour front desk, custom pillow top mattresses,
in room international access phone, etc. AND OWNED BY BAJA NOMAD!
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An Absentee owner Baja Nomad. I love how you open the drapes with full sunlight to make the rooms look so bright and cheery. Whenever we stayed there
it was close to or after dark and the room seemed dark and depressing, no matter the amenities.
That said, I believe that DK has never spent a night at Jardines. They also have Sat TV and US bottled eater, and wifi. They also have a family that
owns it and lives adjacent; not to mention a very hospitable staff.
Different strokes, my friend.
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acadist
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Still have never seen those special rooms David gushes about, I am usually in an old room by the road. It's my own fault for getting there late and
not wanting to drive the rest of the way in the dark.
Dave
I moved to CO and they made me buy a little rod to make it feel like a real fish
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TMW
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How much does Jardines charge for a room? I've never stayed there but sounds like a good place to stay. In San Quintin I usually stay at the Villa de
San Quintin. It's about $40 a night. Clean rooms, good bed, TV pretty good with large flat screens in new section and has wifi. While not really a
problem since I'm not picky the restaurant staff don't understand much english and the menu is only in spanish.
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David K
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Antonio lives 50% or more at El Rosario, he operates the Pemex there, too... One cannot be too removed from these businesses. Jardines was not in the
motel business when Antonio remodeled his family's business, 10 years ago... and while I have eaten at Jardines a few times (it is good), I have not
stayed there, since Baja Cactus is only 35 miles away and Antonio is both a friend to us and a BIG friend to Baja travelers with all the extra things
he does to help tourists or his town with events. The ambulance service DavidE recently mentioned being one of Antonio's projects he is part of.
Oh, and if it is daytime, opening the drapes is a great way to light up a room   If it is night... there are so many choices (above beds, above table, above
sinks, and a dimming control bright light on the fan).
We have arrived to find the motel full or once left after checking in because there was no water... these are just issues and this is Baja. If you are
going to let the little stuff bother you, I suggest another destination. We have stayed at the Turista Motel on the other end of town a few times
(great beds). Ed's Baja Best Bed & Breakfast is a beautiful option for a few more dollars. Then you have Primo's Sinahi Motel and Mama Espinoza's
Las Cabañas Motel for emergency back-up.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Antonio lives 50% or more at El Rosario, he operates the Pemex there, too... One cannot be too removed from these businesses. Jardines was not in the
motel business when Antonio remodeled his family's business, 10 years ago... and while I have eaten at Jardines a few times (it is good), I have not
stayed there, since Baja Cactus is only 35 miles away and Antonio is both a friend to us and a BIG friend to Baja travelers with all the extra things
he does to help tourists or his town with events. The ambulance service DavidE recently mentioned being one of Antonio's projects he is part of.
Oh, and if it is daytime, opening the drapes is a great way to light up a room If it is night... there are so many choices (above beds, above table, above
sinks, and a dimming control bright light on the fan).
We have arrived to find the motel full or once left after checking in because there was no water... these are just issues and this is Baja. If you are
going to let the little stuff bother you, I suggest another destination. We have stayed at the Turista Motel on the other end of town a few times
(great beds). Ed's Baja Best Bed & Breakfast is a beautiful option for a few more dollars. Then you have Primo's Sinahi Motel and Mama Espinoza's
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As a friend, I would ask you to do something. Actually spend one night at Jardines in a double room. I know they are more expensive than the singles,
but the doubles include a number of rooms that were once Carmen and Guillermo's home, as opposed to some of the newer singles that are admittedly
somewhat more spartan than I would prefer.
That said, the staff, although not family, acts like family. Shout out to Fernando, in particular.
Seriously, just give it a try once. I'm not seeking to break up you and Antonio. But among many advantages in my preference is that it is a mile off
the main highway and so much quieter than Baja Cactus.
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freediverbrian
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Not at the top off the list but noise is big for me . you can have hot showers, security ,bar , food but if the noise is loud, and the after hour bar
crowd stomping down hallways , when i am getting up early is a no go.
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David K
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You know that I have never said a bad thing about Jardines...
If we didn't have such a good friend to all Nomads in El Rosario, I wouldn't be so loyal. I sure wouldn't make up stuff either... What I show and say
is real. Now, perhaps it would be valuable if I stayed at Jardines just once? Well, since the economy has been wrecked, multiple trips each year to
Baja just aren't possible to us as they were 6 or more years ago... I trust what others say about Jardines, I am sure it is as good as they say it is.
My wife and I had our 1 year anniversary dinner at Jardines... and photos are on Nomad and my web site: http://vivabaja.com/709
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DavidE
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OK, what I got so far is Jardines is quieter than staying in El Rosario. How about the beds? Like a direct comparison between the two places? "I" can
sleep on anything. My back specifically a bad disc, screams for a good mattress. Also does Jardines have room heaters? Too many years in Michoacan
made me warm blooded. I get miserable in in a 50 degree room fancy tile and warm smiles at the reception desk aside. I do like the idea of having a
tiny coffee brew station in the room, ready to go for the morning. Sometimes I don't want breakfast, I just want to get on the road. In the summer,
sometimes this is long before dawn, and way before the 1st restaurant opens up. I didn't even check out the TV at the place I stayed at but do any of
the hotels have American football games?
I stayed at a $34.99 Motel 6, maybe the best one in the chain, in San Ysidro. I would have to rate the place in El Rosario as being more to my liking
for several reasons. Ear plugs were absolutely (wait a minute, not "were" change that to "are") mandatory at most hotels in Mexico. The people next
door kept waking me up at 0300 slamming the door in the Acapulco Princess Hotel in Acapulco. That's a 300 dollar a night hotel. Now I carry a set of
comfortable ear plugs. So I guess that puts "noise" way down on my list of important points.
Everyone has different likes and dislikes, a different ordinal of priorities, I guess.
I solved the coffee issue in Las Peñas by having a timer fire off the 40 cup coffee pot at 0600. After 0800 the remainder went into vacuum carafes so
it wouldn't go funky.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
You know that I have never said a bad thing about Jardines...
If we didn't have such a good friend to all Nomads in El Rosario, I wouldn't be so loyal. I sure wouldn't make up stuff either... What I show and say
is real. Now, perhaps it would be valuable if I stayed at Jardines just once? Well, since the economy has been wrecked, multiple trips each year to
Baja just aren't possible to us as they were 6 or more years ago... I trust what others say about Jardines, I am sure it is as good as they say it is.
My wife and I had our 1 year anniversary dinner at Jardines... and photos are on Nomad and my web site: http://vivabaja.com/709 |
It would be hard to post a bad thought about a place where you have never stayed. That said, unless you and Antonio are secret lovers, please spend a
night in a double room at Jardines. You have already gone on record as being a fan of Carlos and Esmeralda's restaurant adjacent.
Seems to me that Antonio has no problems filling up his place, so I'm sure he will not miss you for one night.
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David K
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Sure thing... but now I need to convince Baja Angel... she loves the Baja Cactus Motel, and it would be hard getting her to not spend every available
night there. We drive for hours in the dark even, just to have a room at Baja Cactus, it is that good... and that special to us (our first motel room
together, New Years weekend, 2004/5)! 
[Edited on 11-12-2013 by David K]
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yellowklr
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There is no comparison between Cactus and Jardines!!!
I have stayed at both and wouldn't stay at Cactus again….rooms are OK but El Rosario is a dump and its a noisy spot with the location.
Derek
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I think El Rosario is a good, friendly town with honorable people. I have stayed at Baja Cactius several times and liked it. I never considered the
noise a problem. If it is get a room in the back. I've stayed front, back and up high. Of course I go to the SCORE races and can sleep while race
cars, trucks and motorcycles go by. Never stayed at Jardines but I will maybe this trip just to see what the fuss is about.
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vandenberg
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Stayed at Antonio's many times. Nice rooms and showers for Baja.
Stayed at Jardines twice, once in the mentioned double.
Very nice, quiet and good restaurant nearby.
Only objection I had, was the tub shower, which almost was an invitation to somehow slip and break your neck.
Hard on older folks.
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DavidE
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Whoa! Thanks vandenberg!
The shower/tub/slipping issue (unfortunately for me) is a big issue. That simple revelation means I can't even consider Jardines (doggone it).
But still I have a question about yellowklr's comment that El Rosario "is a dump". For the life of me as I pass through San Quintin, and Lazaro
Card##as, I don't see a heck of a lot of "scenery". Is Jardines in some kind of "nice" neighborhood, or rural where it is surrounded by open fields or
trees? When I come south or go north, El Rosario is about the limit for me so I don't have a lot of time to explore. I did stay at several El
Presidente hotels way back when and they were so big the neighborhood did not matter much. The Cielito Lindo was very rural but maybe San
Quintin/Lazaro Card##as has changed a lot.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Whoa! Thanks vandenberg!
The shower/tub/slipping issue (unfortunately for me) is a big issue. That simple revelation means I can't even consider Jardines (doggone it).
But still I have a question about yellowklr's comment that El Rosario "is a dump". For the life of me as I pass through San Quintin, and Lazaro
Card##as, I don't see a heck of a lot of "scenery". Is Jardines in some kind of "nice" neighborhood, or rural where it is surrounded by open fields or
trees? When I come south or go north, El Rosario is about the limit for me so I don't have a lot of time to explore. I did stay at several El
Presidente hotels way back when and they were so big the neighborhood did not matter much. The Cielito Lindo was very rural but maybe San
Quintin/Lazaro Card##as has changed a lot. |
Some rooms should suit you with the shower setup, just ask when you book.
http://www.hotel-jardinesbaja.com/id115.html
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Whoa! Thanks vandenberg!
The shower/tub/slipping issue (unfortunately for me) is a big issue. That simple revelation means I can't even consider Jardines (doggone it).
But still I have a question about yellowklr's comment that El Rosario "is a dump". For the life of me as I pass through San Quintin, and Lazaro
Card##as, I don't see a heck of a lot of "scenery". Is Jardines in some kind of "nice" neighborhood, or rural where it is surrounded by open fields or
trees? When I come south or go north, El Rosario is about the limit for me so I don't have a lot of time to explore. I did stay at several El
Presidente hotels way back when and they were so big the neighborhood did not matter much. The Cielito Lindo was very rural but maybe San
Quintin/Lazaro Card##as has changed a lot. |
Some rooms should suit you with the shower setup, just ask when you book.
http://www.hotel-jardinesbaja.com/id115.html |
The gardens at Jardines are magnificent--- really amazing, and you can sit out on the main patio and just enjoy. And Fernando, or who ever is there
keeps the coffee going in the morning.
We stayed there when I was on crutches and it is pretty easy to get around there. Besides, if you need any extra help, they will find it for you.
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David K
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Dah-veed... the gardens at Jardines are beautiful... It is a popular place for weddings, and other family events... I posted photos of the gardens
back before they added the motel rooms. It is in the farming area just south of Lazaro, and just west of the highway. The driveway is about a
kilometer south of where the highway narrows to 19' wide (Km. 0)... you drive west about a 1/4 mile, then turn south for another 1/4 mile, all wide
dirt roads (muddy for sure in the rain). The Los Olivos RV Park is almost next door to Baja-Jardines.
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DavidE
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A patio and garden sounds great! How does the temperature compare with El Rosario? Is it warmer hotel vs hotel? El Rosario can get damned chilly with
that breeze. It would be nice to sit out in a garden patio. I am a coffee addict. Also kinda grumpy before the first cup. The mini coffee pot at the
place I stayed at was damned near a miracle. Highly appreciated.
I stopped in Rosarito on the way up, got the sand sucked out of the car and mud scraped off the outside. And lost (forgot) my Canadian crutch in the
process. That'll learn me. Boy I can't wait for the next trip, grumble-stumble.
Folks have mentioned a restaurant (?) at or near Jardines.
Try as I might I cannot scrape up enough money to eat in a fancy place. The reason why I am asking all of these questions is El Rosario is about the
limit of my endurance. If I were to push on another 40 (?) miles to a remotely located hotel in the dark, my cataracts would not allow me to start a
snipe hunt for an affordable restaurant. I appreciate your patience.
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