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DavidE
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"Be Very Thankful" Dept
A spritz of reality...
MANILA, Philippines (AP) — One of the most powerful typhoons ever recorded slammed into the Philippines early Friday, and one weather expert warned,
"There will be catastrophic damage."
The U.S. Navy's Joint Typhoon Warning Center shortly before Typhoon Haiyan's landfall said its maximum sustained winds were 314 kilometers per hour
(195 mph), with gusts up to 379 kilometers per hour (235 mph).
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micah202
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...that's just NUTZ!!....may all be well
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OUCH !!
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Very sad and yes, I am thankful.
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Hola amigos
I just read confirmend gust at 230....Holy --it!!! this planet is a changing....okee dokeee !!
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Massive Size!

[Edited on 2013-11-8 by bryanmckenzie]
[Edited on 2013-11-8 by bryanmckenzie]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness.â€
-Mark Twain
Samuel Langhorne Clemens (November 30, 1835 – April 21, 1910)
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Was at Cubi Point, Subic Bay in the early 70's protecting all my college buds from Communists when a huge storm hit. All food was cut off - lived off
canned food for weeks. Daily we went out (USN) into the town to help with getting people food, water, safety. Amazing what that storm did - can't
imagine this one. Many people live right on the water - Unless you've been there it's hard to imagine how these storms change lives in a negative
way. Thoughts/prayers go out to all.
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Haiyan expected to hit Vietnam tomorrow and do more damage than the US did while we were there.
Bob Durrell
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DavidE
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Te reason I posted this is to afford an idea of what could happen if a category 5 hurricane should come north to the peninsula. A category 5
is otherworldly.
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So Many Things to Worry About
This morning I saw on the news that a Dr. Suzuki presented a report about the after effects of the 9.0 earthquake in Japan that destroyed the nuclear
power plant.
He said that the Japanese government is not supervising the clean up and rebuilding - that letting Tokyo Electric, a private, for-profit enterprise
take charge of the repairs is akin to the fox supervising the hen house.
He says that another earthquake of that magnitude is a reality and when it happens, the entire west coast of the U.S. would need to be evacuated.
Yikes...that means I'd better attend as many happy hours at Splash! as possible. 
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“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DavidE
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North northern California, Oregon and Washington are said to be vulnerable to a tsunami. From there south, much less so. An undersea landslide is
supposed to be the very worst thing that can happen in the creation of a tsunami. Apparently this is not a huge factor. A tsunami that would start out
with a 100' potential in Japan would weaken to ten feet or less by the time it reached the west coast of the US. Such is the nature of physics in
geology.
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Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
North northern California, Oregon and Washington are said to be vulnerable to a tsunami. From there south, much less so. An undersea landslide is
supposed to be the very worst thing that can happen in the creation of a tsunami. Apparently this is not a huge factor. A tsunami that would start out
with a 100' potential in Japan would weaken to ten feet or less by the time it reached the west coast of the US. Such is the nature of physics in
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http://faculty.gvsu.edu/videticp/waves.htm
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west coast
there is a current that comes over from japan in a clockwise pattern that stops midway down Baja and then returns back...I forgot how to spell that
beach where you can find all kinds of stuff (malarrimo) any how looks like nick year stuff from japan is going to be floating up onto are beaches in
wa,org,ca and BCN...and also add the" pacific ring of fire"yikes"...were Doomed...LOL..
[Edited on 11-9-2013 by captkw]
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Kuroshio current + California Current--> Vizcaino peninsual/Malarrimo beach debris
Yes, at Malarrimo Beach (same name as business in GN) on the Vizcaino peninsula, the Kuroshio current (travels northward from Japan) combines with
the long California current to deposit all sorts of things that keep beachcombers and oceanographers busy.
It provides way to track debris that is washed overboard/sunk with shipwrecks and measure the speed/direction of the current.
Most (in)famous case was when a freighter carrying Nike athletic shoes lost a container. The buoyant shoes were used as a reliable way to measure the
distance/speed/direction of debris.
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there is a current that comes over from japan in a clockwise pattern that stops midway down Baja and then returns back...I forgot how to spell that
beach where you can find all kinds of stuff (maraollo) any how looks like nick year stuff from japan is going to be floating up onto are beaches in
wa,org,ca and BCN...and also add the" pacific ring of fire"yikes"...were Doomed...LOL.. |

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by Whale-ista]
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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There seems to be some confusion in the reporting and misquotes with some papers repeating kph for mph and many discrepancies in the reports.
the highest wind reported by the philipines weather service is 235 kph or 147 mph.
http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/wb/tcarchive_files.html
http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/wb/wbfcst.html
Philipines news reports 150 dead not 10,000
http://anc.yahoo.com/video/ndrrmc-151-dead-due-yolanda-01161...
It's a tragedy but not as bad as some have reported.
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DavidE
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O.K. The Wind Blew THIS HARD
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DavidE
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Damn! The B.B.C. Is Soooo Flaky
Philippine President Benigno Aquino has declared a state of national calamity to speed relief efforts for victims of Typhoon Haiyan.
In a statement, he said the two worst affected provinces, Leyte and Samar, had suffered massive destruction and loss of life.
Thousands of survivors are still desperately waiting for the aid effort to reach them.
At least 10,000 people are feared to have been killed.
Tacloban is one of the worst affected cities. The BBC's Jon Donnison, who is there, says there does not yet seem to be an effective operation to get
help to those in need.
This is expected to change over the next few days, he says.
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So where is the flakey part?
Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Philippine President Benigno Aquino has declared a state of national calamity to speed relief efforts for victims of Typhoon Haiyan.
In a statement, he said the two worst affected provinces, Leyte and Samar, had suffered massive destruction and loss of life.
Thousands of survivors are still desperately waiting for the aid effort to reach them.
At least 10,000 people are feared to have been killed.
Tacloban is one of the worst affected cities. The BBC's Jon Donnison, who is there, says there does not yet seem to be an effective operation to get
help to those in need.
This is expected to change over the next few days, he says. |
Don't believe everything you think....
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DavidE
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There isn't any. I was vetting my frustration in the form of sarcasm. I made friends in the Philippines and to see anyone suffer like these folks and
then have someone trivialize it just got to me. Sorry. My original intention was and is to show a hurricane is not a hurricane. If a category 5 ever
forms and comes north to the peninsula it is time to take drastic action. I do not want to ever see another one.
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Almost got a Cat 5 with Linda in 1997----was heading towards Abreojos and veered off luckily. Guillermo, another Cat 5 the same year but didn't get
close to Baja. Nora crossed the peninsula in 1997 as well somewhere in the Seven Sisters but it had weakened to a Cat 1 or TS by then. Even as a
weakened storm we still had steady light winds and rain in San Clemente while the center of Nora went thru Arizona...quite an El Nino year 1997.
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