You seem to land on one side of the tolerance fence....like Dennis.
Nonsense. Show one point which I've made that wasn't comparative to a counter-point.
Show one point which I've made that was intolerant to acceptable, tolerant behavior.
Am I intolerant when I object to seeing men in crotchless cowboy chaps and nothing else as they prance down a public street?
Am I intolerant when I object to men swapping blowjobs on the sidewalk, in front of Gawd and families with children at a gay pride parade?
Their behavior can be disgusting when they flaunt their life style within their environment, which, sadly, bleeds over into mainstream American
society. My society.
If they would keep their perversions in their bedrooms, like most hets do, they wouldn't be getting heat from people like me.
I'm tired of your defense of this behavior, ged. You are socially out of line.
My Aunt was Nurse of the year in Tarrant County Texas in 1957. She and her Partner rasied 14 Abused Children. 10 of those Children went on to get a
Degree.
They accomlished this in the State of Texas .
I support them 100 % and any Gay that wants to be, just Try to be "good people" in doing So.
Dennis, settle down....I have never said anything about your littany of supposed experiences (bj's in front of kids, etc). The topic was initially
asking about acceptance in general of same-sex relationships, etc.....and I have responded with my position being one of acceptance and tolerance.
You, sir, have dredged up a rack of specifics that offend you....which is interesting.
I am not "socially out of line" because I don't think like you do. I am not defending lewd conduct in public, regardless of who does it. I am of the
impression that you and DavidE hold relatively similar positions on the matter ....hence the "fence" comment.
I have never once defended lewd behaviour, so get that straight. I am only demonstrating my tolerance for the concept of same-sex relationships....not
specific behaviours.
So, I am less tolerant of your suggestion that I am socially out of line....so stuff that crap.
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by motoged
You seem to land on one side of the tolerance fence....like Dennis.
Nonsense. Show one point which I've made that wasn't comparative to a counter-point.
Show one point which I've made that was intolerant to acceptable, tolerant behavior.
Am I intolerant when I object to seeing men in crotchless cowboy chaps and nothing else as they prance down a public street?
Am I intolerant when I object to men swapping blowjobs on the sidewalk, in front of Gawd and families with children at a gay pride parade?
Their behavior can be disgusting when they flaunt their life style within their environment, which, sadly, bleeds over into mainstream American
society. My society.
If they would keep their perversions in their bedrooms, like most hets do, they wouldn't be getting heat from people like me.
I'm tired of your defense of this behavior, ged. You are socially out of line.
You seem to land on one side of the tolerance fence....like Dennis.
Nonsense. Show one point which I've made that wasn't comparative to a counter-point.
Show one point which I've made that was intolerant to acceptable, tolerant behavior.
Am I intolerant when I object to seeing men in crotchless cowboy chaps and nothing else as they prance down a public street?
Am I intolerant when I object to men swapping blowjobs on the sidewalk, in front of Gawd and families with children at a gay pride parade?
Their behavior can be disgusting when they flaunt their life style within their environment, which, sadly, bleeds over into mainstream American
society. My society.
If they would keep their perversions in their bedrooms, like most hets do, they wouldn't be getting heat from people like me.
I'm tired of your defense of this behavior, ged. You are socially out of line.
But at the same time I don't hear you complaining about events such as Mardi Gras where lewd acts also occur in public. So are you against the PDA or
just gay men...I haven't heard you object to women kissing or groping in public.
MY Kid brother was a prankster and jokester....he strut into a bar, sit down with a big a$$ grin and look at the guy next to him..get their
attention..and after a few mins...Would loudly say.." I'M so Happy ".......and the guy other waits for the reason/reply.........................He
would look um in the and say " I'm bi-sexual"....and the other guy is going ,HuH..he would time just right with his final..."Yep, and tonight's the
night"...........at 6'4" always had a laugh with that!!!
Originally posted by DENNIS
....You haven't heard me object to anybody doing anything specifically....men...women.... singles.....mixtures.......nobody.
Show us where I'm wrong.
Ohhhh.....I'm sorry.....you can't.....(
Oh yes I can....a few post up the page, pal.... your rhetorical questions state your position:
"Am I intolerant when I object to seeing men in crotchless cowboy chaps and nothing else as they prance down a public street?
Am I intolerant when I object to men swapping blowjobs on the sidewalk, in front of Gawd and families with children at a gay pride parade?
Their behavior can be disgusting when they flaunt their life style within their environment, which, sadly, bleeds over into mainstream American
society. My society."
Well...YOUR position is not running out of fuel, as it seems you run on methane
And it's not YOUR society....you might realize sometime that there is more to society than middle america....and you are sharing it....with all sorts
of folks.
Had I been ANYWHERE NEAR the EUA I would have looked at the proposition. But I wasn't, so I didn't. It's tough to register with zero communications.
But I remember small things, like suddenly seeing a sign next to my campsite several years ago. Actually it was a banner hung on a palapa "WE'RE HERE
AND WE'RE QUEER!!!" A couple with X chromosomes. So I went into town, purchased six fluorescent poster boards and a magic marker. Up went the sign
held with duct tape...
I DON'T LIKE WOMEN WHO SMELL LIKE FISH
Took it personally? Oh hell yes. I was a gay basher. The reddest of necks. A regular Rush Limbaugh Ditto Head. Newt Gingrich was a commie compared to
me.
I do not take kindly to stuff shoved down my throat, got it? People have PRIVATE rights. A right not to be molested by ANYONE fronting for ANY kind of
agenda. Got THAT? Dig the word MOLESTED.
Of course now you have me LUMPED into the "anti-gay" category. WHY? I'll tell you WHY...You did not read my replies. You breezed over the top of my
comments about how I dislike IN YOUR FACE aggressiveness. How I narrowed my complaint to only the radical element. Like folks who string up a four
foot by eight foot banner on a campsite next to mine.
Now you have me voting contrary to your preferences.
What's next amigo?
I can't wait.
The hell I can't...
Ya know...this is one of this most idiotic, juvenile, and insulting posts I've ever seen on here...and that is saying something.
But at the same time I don't hear you complaining about events such as Mardi Gras where lewd acts also occur in public. So are you against the PDA or
just gay men...I haven't heard you object to women kissing or groping in public.
I have been in agreement with David and Dennis on this matter (I really don't like our yearly gay parade) until I read this.
You make a good point, Bajaboy. Brazil's 'Carnival' is a lot like our gay parade yet I don't find it offensive at all. Will have to give this more
thought.
I have found Mexicans to be very tolerant when it comes to homosexuality. In this area there are many openly gay Mexicans and I've never heard a local
mutter a discouraging thing about them or witnessed any form of harassment or discrimination, they seem to be very well accepted in the community.
Originally posted by monoloco
I have found Mexicans to be very tolerant when it comes to homosexuality. In this area there are many openly gay Mexicans and I've never heard a
local mutter a discouraging thing about them or witnessed any form of harassment or discrimination, they seem to be very well accepted in the
community.
I also think Mexicans are tolerant but don't think the US is intolerant -- Hawaii just passed the gay marriage thing. Don't think Mexico has hate
crimes directed at gays -- maybe it doesn't make the media. Maybe MX men are more secure in their masculinity than some gringoes. Insecurity
is a word that comes to mind reading comments by nomads defending indefensible behavior.
If I were camping and saw a sign that read WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE QUEER, I'd laugh -- then offer my brothers/sisters a beer. There are generations
of people who grew up repressed -- straights and gays alike -- who are trying to feel positive (pride) vs. shame.
Seriously, Dennis, you are willing to defend and debate behavior without (my opinion) seeming lack of fore thought. Or education. Reactionary and
serious psychological issues steeped in moral judgment comes across as, in this case, disturbing.
You are who you are, carry the burden you do about this stuff, and entitled to your opinion. Even if it comes across as convoluted.
If Ru Paul disturbs you, then so be it. If you think radical gays are ''forcing'' themselves on you, that's your problem. And it really does
come across as your problem.
If Ru Paul disturbs you, then so be it. If you think radical gays are ''forcing'' themselves on you, that's your problem. And it really does
come across as your problem.
This conversation could just as easily been about Michael Vick and dog fighting.
I won't openly accept that behavior either. It doesn't directly affect me, but it's my personal choice to reject it, and in the eyes of Michael Vick
fans, would deem me demented.
Dennis, I find myself wondering where you have been hanging out to have witnessed all this men in crotchless cowboy chaps giving bj's on the street?
Maybe I've lived a sheltered life, although I like to think I've got around a bit, but I have never witnessed this kind of flagrant behavior, which
sounds to me like it would be illegal in most places regardless of sex or sexual orientation. I did enter a gay bar in Laguna unknowingly once, but it
was so subtle that I didn't figure it out for about an hour. Did you unwittingly book a SF vacation to the Castro District?
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