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jimgrms
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Use to trade small bags of hard candy to the Clam Man in San Felipe for clams ,he would get the kids to gather the clams and pay them in candy.
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vandenberg
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Lots of chocolate clams of the beaches around Loreto/Nopolo.
Also, if you drive across to San Carlos on Mag Bay you can fill up a 44 quart cooler in a matter of a few hours with Manilla and Butter clams at very
low tides. Used to be an Aussie in the back bay who raised oysters. 10 cents a piece. Yumm, yumm!
In the 70's we used to get the Pismos at San Quintin, camping with MH on the beach. Just go in the surf a little over knee deep, feel with your feet
for bumps in the sand and get the clam. They were abundant. Natives used to get them with pitchforks by the gunny sack.
[Edited on 2-8-2014 by vandenberg]
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Pompano
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Clamming is illegal. We do not clam.
Gotta love those Chocolates given to us by Poseidon ....fresh from the bay. Best quick picnic idea for the islands.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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vandenberg
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My better half makes them Rockefeller style, with spinach, bacon and gouda cheese.
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UnoMas
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Vandy,
Have made many trips to San Carlos clamming and your right. Always time my trips at low tide on arrival. Before entering S.C. If you turn left where
the power lines cross the road from the C.F.E. plant on the right side of the road.
Follow down to the water, there is a guy with an oyster farm where you can buy them, I think I paid 3 pesos each for them the last time. Drive a long
the waters edge, find a nice spot to clam and go for it.
I have brought back a cooler full of clams and through check points, never a problem. Can't say this is the case through out Baja but my feeling on
the shellfish law is if it is for your consumption and you don't have a truck load no one cares. The gringos in S.C. will also point you to good
places to dig clams as they do it all the time.
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Pompano
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So it's officially ...possibly...maybe ....okay to clam?
Whew...dodged that bullet.
Now about those delicious bay scallops. Gone the way of the Dodo?
Wind chimes anyone?
[Edited on 2-9-2014 by Pompano]
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jimgrms
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Roger most of the good thing have gone ,
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jimgrms
Roger most of the good thing have gone , |
Sad, but true, Jim. I'm just damn glad I got to Baja Sur when I did.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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KurtG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
| Quote: | Originally posted by jimgrms
Roger most of the good thing have gone , |
Sad, but true, Jim. I'm just damn glad I got to Baja Sur when I did. |
Same here. I'm not sure people believe me when I tell them that my then 3 year old daughter could fill a bucket with clams in about 15 minutes at
Santispac in 1974-75.
Roger, do you remember the man who lived over at Punta Arena back then. The only resident. He was a tall athletic looking guy who was a conch diver
there. I seem to remember his name was either Raul or Saul. We would go there clamming and always took him a sixer of Tecate. Usually went home to
Mulege with some Conch meat as well as our clams. Life was good.
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KurtG
Same here. I'm not sure people believe me when I tell them that my then 3 year old daughter could fill a bucket with clams in about 15 minutes at
Santispac in 1974-75.
Roger, do you remember the man who lived over at Punta Arena back then. The only resident. He was a tall athletic looking guy who was a conch diver
there. I seem to remember his name was either Raul or Saul. We would go there clamming and always took him a sixer of Tecate. Usually went home to
Mulege with some Conch meat as well as our clams. Life was good. |
I recall visiting there a few times by boat...way back in the day. Another rather famous person living there was...a gal alone with a couple of goats
and who was called...Low Tide. And that's all I better say about that.....
The palms have ears!
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BigOly
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Sometimes we might pause and listen to ourselves. "Dug them by the bucket load, etc". Now please don't get me wrong, I have my views but I am also
not an extremist and I'll probably get all kinds of krp for saying what I think.
I used to work with a man named Cliff. (Oregon) At 96 he was still mowing greens at the golf course. He new I liked to fish and he'ed tell me
stories about the salmon, steelhead an cutthroat searuns being so plentiful you could " walk across the river on their backs" back then. We'ed blow a
gully in the sand with dynamite to let the river water breach the beach before the rains came. We'ed have pitchforks and "get every one of them"!
Had a horse and trailer loaded to the top so we buried what we couldn't haul that day to keep the gulls off 'em. Usually never returned to get what
we had buried.
Then he would get this far-away look on his face and say "things just aren't the way they were, where did all those fish go"?
[Edited on 2-10-2014 by BigOly]
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KurtG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BigOly
Sometimes we might pause and listen to ourselves. "Dug them by the bucket load, etc". Now please don't get me wrong, I have my views but I am also
not an extremist and I'll probably get all kinds of krp for saying what I think.
I used to work with a man named Cliff. (Oregon) At 96 he was still mowing greens at the golf course. He new I liked to fish and he'ed tell me
stories about the salmon, steelhead an cutthroat searuns being so plentiful you could " walk across the river on their backs" back then. We'ed blow a
gully in the sand with dynamite to let the river water breach the beach before the rains came. We'ed have pitchforks and "get every one of them"!
Had a horse and trailer loaded to the top so we buried what we couldn't haul that day to keep the gulls off 'em. Usually never returned to get what
we had buried.
Then he would get this far-away look on his face and say "things just aren't the way they were, where did all those fish go"?
[Edited on 2-10-2014 by BigOly] |
If you are referring to my 3-year old's bucket of clams I will respond that we went clamming usually once a week and took just enough for two
pre-schoolers and myself. It was a favorite outing for the kids and I don't believe we depleted the clam population. The bucket was pretty small.
Those two children are now in their 40's and have grand memories of those adventures. BTW, the historical society here has photos of local farmers
using horse drawn hay rakes at low tide to harvest Pismo clams to feed to their pigs! It is popular to blame the sea otter for the lack of clams here
but I think humans may have played a role.
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Bubba
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KurtG
| Quote: | Originally posted by BigOly
Sometimes we might pause and listen to ourselves. "Dug them by the bucket load, etc". Now please don't get me wrong, I have my views but I am also
not an extremist and I'll probably get all kinds of krp for saying what I think.
I used to work with a man named Cliff. (Oregon) At 96 he was still mowing greens at the golf course. He new I liked to fish and he'ed tell me
stories about the salmon, steelhead an cutthroat searuns being so plentiful you could " walk across the river on their backs" back then. We'ed blow a
gully in the sand with dynamite to let the river water breach the beach before the rains came. We'ed have pitchforks and "get every one of them"!
Had a horse and trailer loaded to the top so we buried what we couldn't haul that day to keep the gulls off 'em. Usually never returned to get what
we had buried.
Then he would get this far-away look on his face and say "things just aren't the way they were, where did all those fish go"?
[Edited on 2-10-2014 by BigOly] |
If you are referring to my 3-year old's bucket of clams I will respond that we went clamming usually once a week and took just enough for two
pre-schoolers and myself. It was a favorite outing for the kids and I don't believe we depleted the clam population. The bucket was pretty small.
Those two children are now in their 40's and have grand memories of those adventures. BTW, the historical society here has photos of local farmers
using horse drawn hay rakes at low tide to harvest Pismo clams to feed to their pigs! It is popular to blame the sea otter for the lack of clams here
but I think humans may have played a role. |
I've seen the pictures also and would say man is as much to blame as anything...
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Pompano
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3000 persons living in ramshackle huts along the shores of Conception Bay destroyed the bay scallop population. At the peak of this rape, there were
over 1000 pangas heaped to almost sinking with scallops making their trips from the diving grounds to the shore camps. These were Mexicans from
places other than Mulege.
The stink from these camps permeated the entire atmosphere of the Bay. Being downwind of one of these camps would make you gag. The shells were
thrown away carelessly...literally the whole shoreline was covered with those piles.
The Bay is now dead and it's national shame. Gone are the rock & bay scallops, shrimp, big fish, rays, and even the sea cucumbers. The greed is
relentless. Whatever they can find to take they do....and it disappears within a very short time.
Nobody seemed to give a hoot, except concerned people that lived here and witnessed it. Many of us sent complaint after complaint to La Paz. Brought
officials out to see the shrimpers breaking the law in person. Never stopped them at all. Even went to La Paz in a large contingent and complained
in person to the governors office. Nada...all fell on deaf ears.
These were mobs of 'people' eliminating nature's resource...kaput! Not some seals or otters or kids with buckets. Damn pillagers, I say. Enough
ranting...now I need a double martini!
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KurtG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
3000 persons living in ramshackle huts along the shores of Conception Bay destroyed the bay scallop population. At the peak of this rape, there were
over 1000 pangas heaped to almost sinking with scallops making their trips from the diving grounds to the shore camps. These were Mexicans from
places other than Mulege.
The stink from these camps permeated the entire atmosphere of the Bay. Being downwind of one of these camps would make you gag. The shells were
thrown away carelessly...literally the whole shoreline was covered with those piles.
The Bay is now dead and it's national shame. Gone are the rock & bay scallops, shrimp, big fish, rays, and even the sea cucumbers. The greed is
relentless. Whatever they can find to take they do....and it disappears within a very short time.
Nobody seemed to give a hoot, except concerned people that lived here and witnessed it. Many of us sent complaint after complaint to La Paz. Brought
officials out to see the shrimpers breaking the law in person. Never stopped them at all. Even went to La Paz in a large contingent and complained
in person to the governors office. Nada...all fell on deaf ears.
These were mobs of 'people' eliminating nature's resource...kaput! Not some seals or otters or kids with buckets. Damn pillagers, I say. Enough
ranting...now I need a double martini! |
I remember the scallop camps well and they were as large and disgusting as you say.
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vandenberg
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One reason we should admire the coops on the Pacific side, which protect their livelyhood by restricting catches and setting seasons and enforcing
them.
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DJL
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
One reason we should admire the coops on the Pacific side, which protect their livelyhood by restricting catches and setting seasons and enforcing
them. |
My thoughts exactly .
D.~
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I always wondered how you would might purge the sand out if I were to somehow come across some fresh clams harvested from the beach, legally of
course.
yuletide
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajamatic
I always wondered how you would might purge the sand out if I were to somehow come across some fresh clams harvested from the beach, legally of
course. |
I'd accidentally drop some cornmeal in the bucket of clams you accidentally came across 
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajamatic
I always wondered how you would might purge the sand out if I were to somehow come across some fresh clams harvested from the beach, legally of
course. |
Set them in a bucket of clean sea water (overnight) and they will purge out much of their sand. A couple of rinses if possible.
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