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your find that a good strong hooks and a short 10" wire or multi strand leader goes a long way in Baja fishing !!! if you catch trigger you will need
to watch someone clean them first,,, easy to do once you have seen it...great eating and lb for lb strong lttle fish !!
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See link below to kayak mag article I wrote that I entitled: "You Never Knows What Is Coming For You." It is about catching my first Dorado in a
kayak near Loreto.
Great info above. You can never ask to many questions or try too many new ways to catch fish down here.
The problem in the Sea of Cortez is the variety of fish caught and the variety of ways to catch them. Today close to shore and off of Nopolo two of
us in Hobie Kayaks, using plastics and trolling lures caught or saw someone catch Trigger fish, Cabrilla, Corvina, Lizard fish, Puffer fish, Sierra,
some kind of Jack, Barracuda, and a first in the area, I got a a halibut! Got rocked, lost some lures, but I find a spinning rig with 20 # braid and
a 20-30 # mono tippet works most of the time. Every day is a new day...and something new is coming to get you...
http://www.kayakfishingmagazine.net/articles/114-trip-report...
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...and once you've caught a few or two (of any fish) and cleaned them you should be set for bait for the next day (realizing you won't have a cooler.)
Triggers are not picky. Bring your sharpest fillet knife 
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All this has been great info...hope to get some more posts.
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New Guinea 1994. Hand line from a kayak. Notice the gloves.
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captkw
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Hola,,Why do you use floaters ??? I don't understand that one at all !!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
Hola,,Why do you use floaters ??? I don't understand that one at all !! |
I think he explained it pretty
well. They do not sink to the bottom and get snagged on the rocks if you quit paddling.
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He also will not be in the sweet spot !! If he is close to shore...offshore the fish are near the top inversion zone.. near shore they are near
structure.(bottom)..I cheated when I first got down here and did a bit of diving to see the fish and what they did !!
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Captkw, fishing from a kayak is very different then even fishing from a car topper. It is more like fishing from shore. If you see birds a mile away
you most likely be able to get to it while it's active.You have to paddle to get anywhere and you are easily pushed by the prevailing tide. Some of
use use a sea-anchor to help in the paddle.
If you add a bait tank you just put 25# on a boat that you have to paddle.
I prefer to remember to pull my lure in, over using a floater. For what Andy is doing a floater might a better way to go. Not because of being in the
sweat spot but for convince. I would take booth. Day old chunks might be real good if they were packed in a little salt.
[Edited on 2-8-2014 by MMc]
[Edited on 2-8-2014 by MMc]
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At kayak speed the size of the lip determines how deep the lure is going to travel. I don't think I have any lures that don't float but some will get
hung up on rocks at 20 or 30 feet. Not sure a boat can get them much deeper without a downrigger?
I use the 6' depth lures mostly. Easier to paddle and cheaper. I only put the deep ones on if I know there are tuna or wahoo around and I'm not
hooking up. There are a lot of dog snappers and grouper out there with my top water lures in their mouths.
The poster wants to travel from one place to another, not stop and bottom fish. Put a flourocarbon leader on the hand line and a 5" xrap in blue
sardine (4" if you put stronger hooks on), and he has a better chance of getting something while he's moving. He won't want to drag a deep diver for
15 miles. When he gets where he's going to camp bring out the bait if he doesn't already have something.
Sounds like a fun trip!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
Hola,,Why do you use floaters ??? I don't understand that one at all !! |
The lures float when not being actively trolled.
While trolling, the lure dives down to probably five feet. I usually fish in 10-20 ft of water over some sort of rocky structure.
Ninety percent of the hits are from some sort of reef fish. They have no problem coming up 10 ft to nail the lure. It doesn't have to go right by
their nose. (Basically the same principle that Gene Kira details in the Baja Catch. Slow and shallow near structure)
If you stop paddling for whatever reason, (a look around, a drink, sunscreen, a photo, etc.), the lure rises to the surface and just FLOATS. No snags
when you resume paddling because it sank to the bottom while you were dawdling.
And, a few times, I've had a hit on the first or second paddle stroke after a stop and the lure was just floating around on the surface. Obviously,
some fish came up to investigate and grabbed it when the lure "tried to get away".
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Being a steelhead fisherman in BC i've caught the most illusive and hard to catch species of fish on dry flys or just below the surface film.... yes
fish love bottom and structure however don't forget that they are always looking up ready to eat and in steelheads case attack anything that catches
its eye and peees it off enough. Those are the fish you wanna catch anyways and why lure action is more important than depth IMHO....
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Fishing with floating rapalas over deeper water is not very effective. Most won't expend the energy to swim that far for a 5 inch rebel/rapala. Use
floating lures in very shallow water or sinking lures close to bottom.
Kira recommends fastracks over a bottom that's just barely visible. You will catch fish that way but they will be smaller and less frequent than they
could be.
If there you run into a bait ball then that changes everything.
I'm not familiar with handline trolling so can't comment on that.
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Joe is so right about the deep water...many predatory fish hide in rocks and jump out only so far to nail their dinner... (unless later in the year
when some Sierra or Barracuda might be around.)
With one small Spotted Bay Bass you'll have all the bait you need for catching dinner once close to your nightly destination...otherwise if trolling
all day, they'll be sitting in your kayak without ice ( I assume!). Sounds like you'll be in some isolated situations and the fishing for dinner
should be fairly easy.
As we've all seen, for the locals a spark plug, a hook/bait, and some line is all you need!
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This has been a great thread for those of us who are kayak fishermen.
Udo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
This has been a great thread for those of us who are kayak fishermen. |
Agreed, tons of great info here. Thanks everybody.
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Small rapalas do work at kayak speed, so use them. And, I don't know why you are not taking a fishing pole. Cheap telescopic fishing rod - if you
don't have one - is a cr.ap, but it's better than throwing a line wrapped around a coke bottle, you can get a combo with reel for 20 bucks at Amazon.
Worked for me. With Scotty rod holder mounted on a small board tied to the deck, so your hands are free for trolling until it bites.
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