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Udo
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My dos centavos:
The grocery bagger: 5 pesos...I generally only get 1-3 bags.
Parking attendant: normally 10P
Gas station: 5P if only gas pets pumped, 10-20 depending on how many widows get cleaned.
Restaurants: at least 10% if so-so service. Those who greet us as we come in, and provide excellent service throughout the meal: 20%
The Red Cross workers: 10-20P
Firemen: 20P
The last two are when they have a stop station at a tope.
Udo
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pauldavidmena
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Thanks for sharing this information. We've been trying so hard not to be typical tourists by doing things like buying our own groceries, and yet
didn't realize that there was an unwritten protocol around tipping. Now we know.
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dtbushpilot
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Grocery store, 2-5 pesos unless I have a lot of bags.
20 pesos to the guy at Costco who pushes the cart to the car and helps me load the stuff. 20 each if there is more than one guy (only if I have a
mountain of crap)
Gas station 10pesos if they wash the windows or ask me if I want them washed, 0 if they just pump the gas.
Restaurant, 15-20% depending on service an food.
Red Cross (at topes) at least 50 pesos, usually more, never know when I will need them.
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
Gas station: 5P if only gas pets pumped, 10-20 depending on how many widows get cleaned.
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Zero from me for gas only. That isn't service. It's sales.
10/15 P's for windows.
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Lindalou
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The young man that works with Soccoro (veggie lady) in Cantu said to me one day when I tried to give him a tip. He said I came to work and earn my
money, I don't come for free money, and yet they always slip in extra veggie for free for me. Go figure.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sd
The Alaska Airlines story educates me, I had no idea. I don't need their assistance but will give them some $$ when I see them.
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SD, there is so much more to this story. My friend, Christian, told me that one time it was his bad luck to get a crotchety, very old American in a
wheelchair with several days growth of beard and an obviously soiled tee shirt. He was flying solo. Although Christian tried to start a conversation
with the man, he refused to communicate. But Christian is dauntless if nothing else, so he kept trying. Now Christian speaks English, but it is
broken and he makes mistakes like I do when I speak Spanish. He said while they were waiting to board at the gate he wanted to ask the man, "Do you
have a wife?" Well, Christian was a bit intimidated by this mean old man and a little nervous. It came out, "Do you do your wife?" He said the guy
burst out laughing and said, "That, son, is the best one I've heard in a long time!" Whereupon, the old geezer pulled out his wallet and handed him a
fresh US$100 bill! Christian said that the announcement for boarding those needing assistance came shortly thereafter. He was shocked to learn the
man was booked into First Class to Seattle. He said they parted with a wave and a laugh and the guy said, "Son, I want you to push me when I come
back in a month!"
Christian is not looking for charity. He would just like people to know that he works for tips only, he is not on the payroll, just like the parking
lot guys at Costco, the grocery baggers, and sometimes, the wait staff at restaurants.
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CakedecT
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Thank you all for your input. I kind of figured the senior citizens who bag the groceries in a Ensenada only make tips. I do like to see everyone
trying so hard to make a living, and being new here I don't want to be rude, just assuming everyone is paid by the company like in the U S.
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pauldavidmena
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The last time I was in Todos Santos, I *did* tip the attendant who unlocked the parking lot behind Cafelix when my wife and I were out late. Given the
hour, I even tipped generously. 
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maspacifico
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Costco guys can be a pain! I know they want to help but when I have a mountain of stuff to pack in, and have to think about how to do it, I don't need
someone handing me the last thing I want to put in....as I'm balanced on the tailgate. I tip them anyway! I would tip them extra to leave me alone but
haven't figured out how to do that without offending anyone.
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El Jefe
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What is wrong with redistribution of wealth? Tipping is kind of like taxes, but you get to decide how much you want to pay.
By the way, a waiter once told us that it is common in Mexico for tips to be shared by the entire staff, cooks, waiters, bussers etc. So if your
waiter fouled up and you stiff him you are stiffing the cook too.
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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Bajahowodd
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Methinks that a problem occurs when there are tourists who have chosen Mexico because it is a cheap vacation.
My feeling is that when you are experiencing a great vacation, you should also consider the folks that are part of making it a great vacation.
Since you are already saving massive bucks because you are not in Hawaii or Europe, double what you think is a proper tip. You will go home richer for
doing that.
Word.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Jefe
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By the way, a waiter once told us that it is common in Mexico for tips to be shared by the entire staff, cooks, waiters, bussers etc. So if your
waiter fouled up and you stiff him you are stiffing the cook too. |
That is also the rule of the day for the nicer restaurants in the US --- the server tips out everyone else.
Someone mentioned that the well to do Mexicans do not tip well, and that is also true here. Someone close to us is a server at an upscale
restaurant at a San Diego Beach and as he says, those who have had a callus on one of their hands at sometime in the past will tip very well if the
service is good. They don't stick to any 20% rule; they don't stick to any rule except they pay for what is done well. They understand what it is
like to work for a living.
Those who were financially born on third base and think they hit a home run seldom tip well no matter what.
Europeans are often used to countries where the servers are paid a living wage, so tipping is not as important. Canadians, well, I won't go there.
Some things seem consistent in both the US and in Mexico.
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Barry A.
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My daughter, my neice, and 2 of my sister-in-laws all lived nicely in the San Diego area back in the '80's on "tips", and two of them even put
themselves thru College almost solely on "tips". They all worked in upscale restaurants and lounges.
College students (mostly men) got on long waiting lists to be able to work in my Brother-in-law's Restaurants in the San Diego area because the tips
were so profitable, and the hours so flexible.
There certainly were different experiences for different folks, it would appear.
Barry
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
My daughter, my neice, and 2 of my sister-in-laws all lived nicely in the San Diego area back in the '80's on "tips", and two of them even put
themselves thru College almost solely on "tips". They all worked in upscale restaurants and lounges.
College students (mostly men) got on long waiting lists to be able to work in my Brother-in-law's Restaurants in the San Diego area because the tips
were so profitable, and the hours so flexible.
There certainly were different experiences for different folks, it would appear.
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Yes, it was like that back in the 80s and before-- not so today. It has not kept up with inflation nor with the HUGE increase in the cost of college.
Adjusted for inflation, minimum wage today should be anywhere from $11.00 an hour up to $20.00 an hour depending on whose statistics one thinks are
valid. If that was the case, things would be different with tips added on.
But the members of the lucky sperm club probably would still not tip well. 
[Edited on 2-15-2014 by DianaT]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
My daughter, my neice, and 2 of my sister-in-laws all lived nicely in the San Diego area back in the '80's on "tips", and two of them even put
themselves thru College almost solely on "tips". They all worked in upscale restaurants and lounges.
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For some, there may be a hidden cost for this windfall of day-to-day riches, depending on how open and honest they were in declaring income to the IRS
on which Social Security is based.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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DENNIS
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I think "tipping" is ridiculous. Employers should pay decent wages.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Pompano
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Different strokes for different folks...as always.
The practice of tipping originated in Europe around the 16th century when the practice of paying extra for a 'tippling' ..having a drink....for a
service person started. The word "tip" started to be commonly used for a gratuity around the 1700s in England, according to the Oxford English
Dictionary, although Cornell University professor Michael Lind found evidence of a craftsman asking a customer for trinkgeld or "drink money" in
German, for an apprentice dating back to 1509, so the practice emerged before its current name.
In fact, the practice of tipping in restaurants probably emerged from the idea of "drink money" -- the idea being that a server should have a drink
(or a tipple) at the customer's expense.
Although tipping is now thought of as a distinctively American practice, it was actually an Old World tradition that did not take hold until after the
Civil War. (The whole notion of gifting to "inferiors" did not mesh well with the ideals of democracy, writes James Surowiecki in The New Yorker.)
But it grew....
Tipping trivia:
Country-wise, Italians seem to be the worst tippers. 
Germans are near the top tippers, and Americans are always thought to be good wherever you travel.
I've heard the rumors about Canadians being a mite tight with a loonie, but that could be just an urban myth. Go Canucks!
If you don't like tipping, then you could move to Japan, where tipping anyone for an already charged service would be insulting. Even slipping a
hotel employee an envelope with a tip is often refused.
A recent survey of 'tipping costs' for a typical New Yorker amounted to $3,300 per year.
But, we can't compare apples to oranges... or Baja to those more-developed countries. This is Baja and things are what they are...mostly, we're
talking tipping folks who come from abject poverty and neglect from their government.
I'm sure you'll make your own decisions and judgments according to your conscience.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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willardguy
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the definitive guide to tipping, courtesy of reservoir dogs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sbYy0WdGQ
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KurtG
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I always make sure I have some peso change when shopping. The tip to the bagger varies depending on my purchases. Gas stations will vary according
to the service but 5-10 pesos, sometimes it is clearly not expected. Even with the motorcycle where I'm not buying a lot of gas I usually tip. My
Mexican friends say only tip servers 10% but I tip just as I do at home, 15-20%. While my travel budget is always a factor I never forget that the
people helping me have far less than I do. I always leave something for the hotel maid, they are probably the lowest paid workers we come in contact
with and likely the most needy.
I am a budget traveler but if tips add a few bucks to my trip costs I willingly live with it.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
But, we can't compare apples to oranges... or Baja to those more-developed countries. This is Baja and things are what they are...mostly, we're
talking tipping folks who come from abject poverty and neglect from their government.
I'm sure you'll make your own decisions and judgments according to your conscience. |
Yes. The difference is clear, but I can't for the life of me excuse an employer his responsibility to pay his employees, as in the supermarkets,
merely because he/they make an arbitrary proclamation that they aren't really his employees and work for themselves.
This practice here is running amok, starting again with the grocery stores and spreading to other facets of the economy. I've been hit up for a tip
at the tire store for mounting tires which they sold to me to begin with.
It's well known that a tip for the pipa driver, as well as the gas truck driver, just to name a couple, will earn better attention in the future.
This is nonsense, but the practice is spreading.
These aren't tips in my opinion. They're gifts and I see no moral obligation to be giving gifts to a truck driver. The employers love it, but they
have to be brought back in line to pay fair wages to employees and quit dumping this responsibility on their customers who, by the way, already pay
for these services through prices, again, set by the employer.
It's practices, such as these, that cause unions. What could be worse.
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