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woody with a view
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supposed to get up to an inch of rain AT THE BEACH this week....
if it's yellow let it mellow.
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David K
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There used to be tomato farms in Carlsbad (they're houses now)... Just drive to Ejido Erendira or San Quintin to see where California tomatoes come
from: Los Pinos (Rodriguez Family). 
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woody with a view
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i've got 4 heirloom varieties getting ready to put in the dirt. nothing like a home grown tomato. the crap at the store should be free.
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Gulliver
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Fewer people. Period.
Everything else is just re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Cypress
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All these cold fronts down here are making it hard, but sooner or later it's gonna stay warm. Sprouting key limes and lemon seeds, tomatoes and
peppers are next. High water has put a damper on the fishing, but the river's starting to fall. Wish I could send all this excess water to CA. From
what I understand they're anti-pipelines(Keystone?) out there. They might get thirsty before this all shakes out.
[Edited on 2/24/2014 by Cypress]
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Martyman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
how about just not eating lettuce and tomato? |
I could go on an all carnitas diet!
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willardguy
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or BLT's missing a couple parts!
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durrelllrobert
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Here's what happened back east last year but...
..of course they have plenty of water:
Heirloom Tomatoes Overwhelm Greenmarket -- Lowest Prices This Year So Far
By Robert Sietsema Mon., Aug. 13 2012 at 5:38 PM
At the start of the season in June, prices topped out at $5.50 per pound for vine-ripened heirloom tomatoes, nearly all grown in greenhouses by
enterprising farmers. But now that the actual tomato harvest season is upon us (no greenhouse tomatoes here), farmers are discovering that they might
have planted too many vines.
Prices have been sinking lower, and today, Fork in the Road spotted a sign advertising $2.95 per pound heirlooms, with eight different varieties
represented. Note that this is a maximum, un-negotiated price. As the day wears warmly on, and tomatoes get soft, you'll find you can bargain a better
price, especially if you're willing to buy at least a few pounds.
This might sound like heresy, but almost-mushy heirlooms have the best flavor of all, and anything cooked with them turns out spectacular. Of course,
you'd be unlikely to cook with tomatoes you just forked over almost $6 a pound for, but what if you got a bag of squishy ones for, say, $2 a pound.
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This article also says that the average heirloom tomato plant will produce 20-25 pounds a season.
Bob Durrell
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bajagrouper
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Idea, turn the California Aqueduct off to SoCal and send the water to the growing spots in the central valley.....solves 2 problems at once........LOL
I hear the whales song
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
..of course they have plenty of water:
Heirloom Tomatoes Overwhelm Greenmarket -- Lowest Prices This Year So Far
By Robert Sietsema Mon., Aug. 13 2012 at 5:38 PM
At the start of the season in June, prices topped out at $5.50 per pound for vine-ripened heirloom tomatoes, nearly all grown in greenhouses by
enterprising farmers. But now that the actual tomato harvest season is upon us (no greenhouse tomatoes here), farmers are discovering that they might
have planted too many vines.
Prices have been sinking lower, and today, Fork in the Road spotted a sign advertising $2.95 per pound heirlooms, with eight different varieties
represented. Note that this is a maximum, un-negotiated price. As the day wears warmly on, and tomatoes get soft, you'll find you can bargain a better
price, especially if you're willing to buy at least a few pounds.
This might sound like heresy, but almost-mushy heirlooms have the best flavor of all, and anything cooked with them turns out spectacular. Of course,
you'd be unlikely to cook with tomatoes you just forked over almost $6 a pound for, but what if you got a bag of squishy ones for, say, $2 a pound.
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I'm afraid you couldn't give those tomatoes away in California
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chuckie
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I was thinking the same thing...hog food in Kansas....
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Cypress
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Those tomatoes might look sorta knarly, but you can bet they taste great.
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Mexitron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
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Last time I lived in San Clemente I planted a Brandywine tomato (heirloom variety). I planted it in early February since the chance of frost was
pretty slim next to the ocean. By September the vine was 15 feet tall and growing with well over 100 lbs of tomatoes harvested---had to move so
don't know how much more it would have produced.
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Skipjack Joe
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What a tomato! Now how did that expression come about?
Sorry guys. Enough eye candy for this morning.
[Edited on 2-25-2014 by Skipjack Joe]
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vgabndo
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I don't know about the reference to women, but clearly: Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, and wisdom is not putting one in your fruit
salad!
I've grown a bunch of Early Girls at 41 degrees north, given time to vine ripen they have great flavor. Forcing the fruit to market seems to be a
bigger problem than the strain being grown.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Pescador
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There would be enough water to take care of the agricultural needs but instead the Federal Government is diverting most of the allocated water to make
sure they meet the requirements of the smelt which were put on the endangered species list.
Wish I had been on the decision board, Lets see, some small smelt which have no impact whatsoever, or farmers and their families. Tough choice.
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DJL
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Profile of a starving farmer ?
http://mondoweiss.net/2013/07/oligarch-valley-how-beverly-hi...
I'm all for reasonable water allocations , but Cotton and Nuts in the desert really are not sustainable . Not that it matters , since there's no water
here anyways ...
D.~
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Lettuce grows in 21 days daily in your yard, if you let some go to flower and seed you get all the lettuce you want, fresh and tasty.
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durrelllrobert
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I didn't realize that the proper name for the "Central Vally" was the Oligarch-valley
A Journey Through Oligarch Valley
By Yasha Levine
If you've ever driven between San Francisco and Los Angeles on Interstate-5, you know the Central Valley as a place where set you cruise control to 90
mph and gun through as fast as possible. The highway runs in an absolute straight line for 350 sleep-inducing miles, bisecting an endless plane of
farmland, orchards, arid dirt, howling winds and spooky rural desolation. Probably the only things you notice are the gas stations and the In-N-Out
burger joints are, as well as the periodic regions marked by the foul smell of cow chit that signal the high-density feedlots and slaughter yards that
provide that tasty In-N-Out ground beef. That awful smell, by the way, is what inspired Michael Pollan to write his great anti-agribusiness bible, The
Omnivore's Dilemma.
But the region is about a lot more than just chitburgers, migrant workers and toxic pesticides. This stretch of the Central Valley should really be
called Oligarch Valley. It ain't Park Avenue, so you won't see any huge mansions. But just about all the land running along the highway and as far as
you can see to the horizon is owned by a small clique of billionaires and oligarchs, many of whom trace their roots back to the landholdings of
America's most notorious industrialist vampires: the Union Pacific Railroad octopus, John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil, the family of belligerent Los
Angeles Times publisher Harry Chandler...
[Edited on 2-25-2014 by durrelllrobert]
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monoloco
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Interesting article and just another reminder of who really controls America.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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