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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 08:39 AM


supposed to get up to an inch of rain AT THE BEACH this week....

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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 08:42 AM


There used to be tomato farms in Carlsbad (they're houses now)... Just drive to Ejido Erendira or San Quintin to see where California tomatoes come from: Los Pinos (Rodriguez Family). :light:



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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 09:13 AM


i've got 4 heirloom varieties getting ready to put in the dirt. nothing like a home grown tomato. the crap at the store should be free.



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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 12:55 PM


Fewer people. Period.

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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 01:14 PM


All these cold fronts down here are making it hard, but sooner or later it's gonna stay warm. Sprouting key limes and lemon seeds, tomatoes and peppers are next. High water has put a damper on the fishing, but the river's starting to fall. Wish I could send all this excess water to CA. From what I understand they're anti-pipelines(Keystone?) out there. They might get thirsty before this all shakes out.:D

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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 02:14 PM


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how about just not eating lettuce and tomato?


I could go on an all carnitas diet!
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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 02:45 PM


or BLT's missing a couple parts!;)
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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 05:53 PM
Here's what happened back east last year but...


..of course they have plenty of water:

Heirloom Tomatoes Overwhelm Greenmarket -- Lowest Prices This Year So Far

By Robert Sietsema Mon., Aug. 13 2012 at 5:38 PM



At the start of the season in June, prices topped out at $5.50 per pound for vine-ripened heirloom tomatoes, nearly all grown in greenhouses by enterprising farmers. But now that the actual tomato harvest season is upon us (no greenhouse tomatoes here), farmers are discovering that they might have planted too many vines.

Prices have been sinking lower, and today, Fork in the Road spotted a sign advertising $2.95 per pound heirlooms, with eight different varieties represented. Note that this is a maximum, un-negotiated price. As the day wears warmly on, and tomatoes get soft, you'll find you can bargain a better price, especially if you're willing to buy at least a few pounds.

This might sound like heresy, but almost-mushy heirlooms have the best flavor of all, and anything cooked with them turns out spectacular. Of course, you'd be unlikely to cook with tomatoes you just forked over almost $6 a pound for, but what if you got a bag of squishy ones for, say, $2 a pound.
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This article also says that the average heirloom tomato plant will produce 20-25 pounds a season.




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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 08:28 PM


Idea, turn the California Aqueduct off to SoCal and send the water to the growing spots in the central valley.....solves 2 problems at once........LOL



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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 08:47 PM


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..of course they have plenty of water:

Heirloom Tomatoes Overwhelm Greenmarket -- Lowest Prices This Year So Far

By Robert Sietsema Mon., Aug. 13 2012 at 5:38 PM



At the start of the season in June, prices topped out at $5.50 per pound for vine-ripened heirloom tomatoes, nearly all grown in greenhouses by enterprising farmers. But now that the actual tomato harvest season is upon us (no greenhouse tomatoes here), farmers are discovering that they might have planted too many vines.

Prices have been sinking lower, and today, Fork in the Road spotted a sign advertising $2.95 per pound heirlooms, with eight different varieties represented. Note that this is a maximum, un-negotiated price. As the day wears warmly on, and tomatoes get soft, you'll find you can bargain a better price, especially if you're willing to buy at least a few pounds.

This might sound like heresy, but almost-mushy heirlooms have the best flavor of all, and anything cooked with them turns out spectacular. Of course, you'd be unlikely to cook with tomatoes you just forked over almost $6 a pound for, but what if you got a bag of squishy ones for, say, $2 a pound.
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This article also says that the average heirloom tomato plant will produce 20-25 pounds a season.


I'm afraid you couldn't give those tomatoes away in California:biggrin::biggrin:




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[*] posted on 2-25-2014 at 05:13 AM


I was thinking the same thing...hog food in Kansas....



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[*] posted on 2-25-2014 at 05:35 AM


Those tomatoes might look sorta knarly, but you can bet they taste great.:)
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[*] posted on 2-25-2014 at 06:34 AM


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This article also says that the average heirloom tomato plant will produce 20-25 pounds a season.


Last time I lived in San Clemente I planted a Brandywine tomato (heirloom variety). I planted it in early February since the chance of frost was pretty slim next to the ocean. By September the vine was 15 feet tall and growing with well over 100 lbs of tomatoes harvested---had to move so don't know how much more it would have produced.
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lol.gif posted on 2-25-2014 at 07:06 AM
What a tomato! Now how did that expression come about?


Sorry guys. Enough eye candy for this morning.

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[*] posted on 2-25-2014 at 08:06 AM


I don't know about the reference to women, but clearly: Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, and wisdom is not putting one in your fruit salad!

I've grown a bunch of Early Girls at 41 degrees north, given time to vine ripen they have great flavor. Forcing the fruit to market seems to be a bigger problem than the strain being grown.




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[*] posted on 2-25-2014 at 08:39 AM


There would be enough water to take care of the agricultural needs but instead the Federal Government is diverting most of the allocated water to make sure they meet the requirements of the smelt which were put on the endangered species list.

Wish I had been on the decision board, Lets see, some small smelt which have no impact whatsoever, or farmers and their families. Tough choice.:P




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[*] posted on 2-25-2014 at 08:55 AM


Profile of a starving farmer ?

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/07/oligarch-valley-how-beverly-hi...

I'm all for reasonable water allocations , but Cotton and Nuts in the desert really are not sustainable . Not that it matters , since there's no water here anyways ...

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[*] posted on 2-25-2014 at 09:15 AM


Lettuce grows in 21 days daily in your yard, if you let some go to flower and seed you get all the lettuce you want, fresh and tasty.
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[*] posted on 2-25-2014 at 09:49 AM
I didn't realize that the proper name for the "Central Vally" was the Oligarch-valley


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http://mondoweiss.net/2013/07/oligarch-valley-how-beverly-hi...

I'm all for reasonable water allocations , but Cotton and Nuts in the desert really are not sustainable . Not that it matters , since there's no water here anyways ...

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A Journey Through Oligarch Valley

By Yasha Levine


If you've ever driven between San Francisco and Los Angeles on Interstate-5, you know the Central Valley as a place where set you cruise control to 90 mph and gun through as fast as possible. The highway runs in an absolute straight line for 350 sleep-inducing miles, bisecting an endless plane of farmland, orchards, arid dirt, howling winds and spooky rural desolation. Probably the only things you notice are the gas stations and the In-N-Out burger joints are, as well as the periodic regions marked by the foul smell of cow chit that signal the high-density feedlots and slaughter yards that provide that tasty In-N-Out ground beef. That awful smell, by the way, is what inspired Michael Pollan to write his great anti-agribusiness bible, The Omnivore's Dilemma.

But the region is about a lot more than just chitburgers, migrant workers and toxic pesticides. This stretch of the Central Valley should really be called Oligarch Valley. It ain't Park Avenue, so you won't see any huge mansions. But just about all the land running along the highway and as far as you can see to the horizon is owned by a small clique of billionaires and oligarchs, many of whom trace their roots back to the landholdings of America's most notorious industrialist vampires: the Union Pacific Railroad octopus, John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil, the family of belligerent Los Angeles Times publisher Harry Chandler...

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[*] posted on 2-25-2014 at 09:53 AM


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Profile of a starving farmer ?

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/07/oligarch-valley-how-beverly-hi...

I'm all for reasonable water allocations , but Cotton and Nuts in the desert really are not sustainable . Not that it matters , since there's no water here anyways ...

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Interesting article and just another reminder of who really controls America.



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