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[*] posted on 3-4-2014 at 09:22 PM


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The place I am talking about (just inside US by trolley tracks) is a Jack in the Box.:light:



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When you get off the trolley there's a Mickey D's right in front of you. The JIB is up a little ways going away from the trolley.




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[*] posted on 3-5-2014 at 08:38 AM


Well, I never said there wasn't a McD's... But, for sure there is a Jack in the Box... I have been there, parked by it, and it is just a hundred feet or so from where you come out of the customs building when you walk back into the U.S.
I also just checked Google and saw it right where I said it was. ;)




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[*] posted on 3-5-2014 at 11:42 AM


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How is passport card faster for entry on foot than a passport with RFID?








I have that ? too, along with the Passport Card being
accepted in the Ready Lane/Line and not the US Passport
Book with chip, there a few other
doc's that are accepted in the Ready Lane/Line,
among others is a Border
Crossing Card, issued to Mex Nationals, so here is
a US Born Citizen, with a US Passport having to wait
longer to enter his Country than a Mex National
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[*] posted on 3-5-2014 at 12:30 PM


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Quote:
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How is passport card faster for entry on foot than a passport with RFID?


I have that ? too, along with the Passport Card being
accepted in the Ready Lane/Line and not the US Passport
Book with chip, there a few other
doc's that are accepted in the Ready Lane/Line,
among others is a Border
Crossing Card, issued to Mex Nationals, so here is
a US Born Citizen, with a US Passport having to wait
longer to enter his Country than a Mex National


$30 gets you a passport card and then you can join the happy masses. Make sure you walk down the right side of the path (hug the papered-over wall) and just excuse yourself as you go down toward the Ready Lane entrance.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2014 at 12:50 PM


wow, I just realized that an RFID passport isn't good enough for the ready lane. that's a bummer



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[*] posted on 3-5-2014 at 01:02 PM


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a Border Crossing Card, issued to Mex Nationals, so here is
a US Born Citizen, with a US Passport having to wait
longer to enter his Country than a Mex National


We have to keep in mind that the Mexicans do the same thing on entering Mexico. They wait behind us. Any reorganization of this would surely cause bad feelings.
Anyway, were all nothing better than victims when in the border zone.




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[*] posted on 3-6-2014 at 12:22 PM


Thanks everyone. I picked-up my tourist visa yesterday in the line entering Mexico and it couldn't have been easier. However, I was surprised by a few things: There is no bank in this office as you enter the country. The officer stamped my visa (without paying) and stapled a "receipt" to the back telling me that I needed to go to the bank and pay the 306p fee (despite having already stamped it). He told me I didn't need to do it ASAP and that I could wait until I arrived in Loreto.

Seeing as though the visa is already stamped I am failing to see the need to go to the bank. Am I missing something?

[Edited on 3-6-2014 by Enrique2012]
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[*] posted on 3-6-2014 at 12:40 PM


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Seeing as though the visa is already stamped I am failing to see the need to go to the bank. Am I missing something?




Maybe so. :yes:




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[*] posted on 3-6-2014 at 01:37 PM


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Seeing as though the visa is already stamped I am failing to see the need to go to the bank. Am I missing something?




Maybe so. :yes:


It's the right thing to do. We complain about people not following our laws, but then we ignore theirs.

The law—sit down, shut up, I know—the law says you have to turn in your FMM when you leave. There's absolutely no way to do that at Tijuana. Literally. The door when you exit to the stairs on the Mexican side doesn't have a handle on the outside. You would have to cross back to the States, then go BACK to Mexico to turn in your FMM, then cross back to the States.

Right.

However, if you were going to fly home, or if you were leaving across the Guatemalan border at Tapachula or the Belizean border at Chetumal, you would end up having to pay the 306p, because they check BOTH the stamp AND the receipt. (The Internet is full of whiny British subjects who take cheap Thomas Cook charter flights to Cancun, then complain about having to pay 800p to leave, which is the unpaid FMM and unpaid airport use tax.)

Technically, during an FMM check, they can ask for your receipt. Hands up all those who've ever had to show a receipt anywhere in Baja.

Right-o, back to the program already in progress.

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[*] posted on 3-6-2014 at 02:32 PM


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Thanks everyone. I picked-up my tourist visa yesterday in the line entering Mexico and it couldn't have been easier. However, I was surprised by a few things: There is no bank in this office as you enter the country. The officer stamped my visa (without paying) and stapled a "receipt" to the back telling me that I needed to go to the bank and pay the 306p fee (despite having already stamped it). He told me I didn't need to do it ASAP and that I could wait until I arrived in Loreto.

Seeing as though the visa is already stamped I am failing to see the need to go to the bank. Am I missing something?

[Edited on 3-6-2014 by Enrique2012]


Was that the walking line or........




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[*] posted on 3-6-2014 at 04:04 PM


Yes. the walk-in line going into Mex. Just before you pass the Mexican Customs officers there is a hallway to your right with a sign "Tourist Visas" over the doorway. I have to admit it was pretty slick. Now, if they would just put a bank cajero in that office it would be REALLY slick.
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[*] posted on 3-6-2014 at 04:14 PM


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The officer stamped my visa (without paying) and stapled a "receipt" to the back telling me that I needed to go to the bank and pay the 306p fee (despite having already stamped it). He told me I didn't need to do it ASAP and that I could wait until I arrived in Loreto.

Seeing as though the visa is already stamped I am failing to see the need to go to the bank[Edited on 3-6-2014 by









That pay down the road thing, I've always been curious
about, in the past they have said pay within 5 days,
wonder if anyone, Mex Immigration or other, could
look at your fmm and determine you had not paid the
fee? Since it is stamped, it may be a situation of
courtesy to follow thru and pay the fee
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[*] posted on 3-6-2014 at 06:04 PM


In Tijuana, the INM officer had a cash box and can take the money or walk a few windows over to a bank teller, then come back for the final stamp. It was daytime and the choice was mine the officer said as to who to pay. In Tecate, we were told if the bank teller is closed, they can now take the money too (just like Tijuana). I would think all the border INM officers now had the same ability...?



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[*] posted on 3-6-2014 at 06:34 PM


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Hola,

while we are on the subject, does this walkin differ from the old way of crossing on foot prior to the new El Chaparral crossing ?

Yes. Prior to new El Chap crossing you walked to Tijuana on the West of Hwy5 through the turnstile. Now you walk East of Hwy 5. Walking back to the US is still the same route as prior to El Chap, and yes, it can take an hour.
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[*] posted on 3-7-2014 at 11:48 AM


I know there is no ped/foot access to the New Crossing
into TJ from the US, I SUPPOSE one could walk to the
New Crossing from inside TJ, one can see it from the
ped bridge over the TJ River
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[*] posted on 3-7-2014 at 12:02 PM


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one can see it from the
ped bridge over the TJ River



That river bottom is a sight to behold. Half the criminals in TJ live there on the ground under the stars. It's a killing zone without equal.




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[*] posted on 3-7-2014 at 12:26 PM


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That river bottom is a sight to behold. Half the criminals in TJ live there on the ground under the stars






Quite a few blue tarps used as tents, a few guys under the bridge asking for coins from peds on bridge, I assume the
cops won't let them up on the bridge to hassle peds, I
imagine more than a few US deportees, probably not a
place for an evening stroll
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[*] posted on 3-7-2014 at 12:50 PM


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That pay down the road thing, I've always been curious
about, in the past they have said pay within 5 days,
wonder if anyone, Mex Immigration or other, could
look at your fmm and determine you had not paid the
fee? Since it is stamped, it may be a situation of
courtesy to follow thru and pay the fee


In situations where they are doing strict control of FMMs (airports in the border zone or with lots of charter flights, border crossings to Guatemala and Belize, the immigration checkpoint south of Nogales, etc.) you are required to show TWO pieces of paper: the FMM itself, which is stamped, and the DNI ("derecho de no inmigrante"), which is the bank receipt. No DNI, they make you pay for your FMM again.

The checkpoint at Guerrero Negro is not one of those "strict control" points.
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[*] posted on 3-7-2014 at 06:15 PM


Just a little note to add to this thread. A bit late at this point but perhaps some can use for future reference. If you just want to hop across on foot to get your visa and then come back there is a little trick if the line is too long and you don't have any sort of ready lane permissions to cross faster. About 100 feet from where the line enters the gated area to the border station you can usually see one or two folks soliciting customers to get in their buses. What these guys are doing is getting their buses in line and as the bus approaches the front of the line they charge you 5 bucks to hop on. Then you get to hop out when the bus gets to the front of the line and it puts you near the front of the line to have your passport or green card checked. I have done this twice now and both times I only waited about 30 minutes or less to get back into the USA when it would have taken much longer had I gone two zip codes over to the end of the pedestrian line. Of course, now that I have told you this it will probably take me an hour next time but too late as the cat is now out of the bag...... ;)
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[*] posted on 3-8-2014 at 01:50 PM


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If you just want to hop across on foot to get your visa







I've done that at the Old Ped Crossing, have you done this
at the New Ped Crossing into TJ? The Op of this thread,
Enrique, says there was no teller/bank at the New Ped
Crossing, it may have been closed? Have you got an fmm
and paid for it at the New Ped Crossing? If not, I wouldn't know
where to begin to find a bank near the border at TJ
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