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David K
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Thank you Ralph... Being dated 2011, is it the most recent 'law'?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Thank you Ralph... Being dated 2011, is it the most recent 'law'? |
Good question. Mexico amends the Constitution often.
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churro
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So True... When going down to Baja Sur Crossing the border at TJ, I was told I must pay the $25.00 for the tourist visa if staying more than 72 hours
or going south of Ensenada, No problema. pay the $25.00 and on my way with a tourist card stamped.
When crossing at Mexicali I was told there was no fee for staying in Mexico for less than a week no matter where I was traveling to, Paid no money,
Had a tourist card stamped and on my way.... No charge
The two Baja trips described above were only a few months apart at the end of 2013.
I want to respect the laws no matter where I go. But I would sure like to know what the laws are. For both trips to Baja Sur I had a stamped tourist
card, I suppose thats all that matters.
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
One of the problems with Mexican "law" and rules are that they are constantly not only changing but are interpreted and applied differently in many
institutions so while one person may report that he did things a certain way...that may have applied to his personal case at a particular point in
time....
For example...a few years back with a different bank manager, one could open a bank account with only a tourist visa and deposit dollars into it. When
the manager changed, his policy was that you could only open an account if you had an FM3 and you could NOT deposit dollars into a peso account. These
policies seem to differ from branch to branch. All of a sudden now, we CAN deposit dollars into peso accounts again....so things are rather willy
nilly and certainly unpredictable...which is exasperating at times until you get used to this and just go with it. Expect the unexpected is my motto.
The same goes with immigration policies...different offices give you different information and what you may be told at the border or at your local
canadian or american consulates often can be wrong or outdated as well.
As others suggested, I concur you should just get an Fmm and see how you like it all and learn the ropes for awhile. Good luck and perhaps we will
meet you seeing as we will be in the same municipality!
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rts551
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No changes that I am aware of....BUT
The Regulations to enforce the law went into effect last year and I do not have a copy of those.
Here are the regulations in Spanish if you are so inclined
http://dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5270615&fecha=...
[Edited on 3-22-2014 by rts551]
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willardguy
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or if you want to spend 20 bucks this is supposedly the tell all book updated last month.
http://www.mexperience.com/store/vuitem.php?itemid=26
what i don't get is what exactly is mexico after? do they really want us to hold these temporary and permanent visa's?? is it a way to raise revenue,
if so why the heck do they make the financial requirements so ridiculous? im sure im not the only expat living comfortably on SS, nowhere close to
qualifying for either of these visa's! 
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DENNIS
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From the above publication in regard to the FMM.
"This visa can also be issued for 10 years, instead of 180 days, but the visa holder may not spend
more than 180 consecutive days in Mexico at one time."
?????????????????????????????????? <-- [my question marks]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
what i don't get is what exactly is mexico after? do they really want us to hold these temporary and permanent visa's?? is it a way to raise revenue,
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Certainly not the Perm Res card, since it doesn't require renewal.
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if so why the heck do they make the financial requirements so ridiculous? im sure im not the only expat living comfortably on SS, nowhere close to
qualifying for either of these visa's! |
I thought they were allowing short income for the Temp Res card???
One thing for sure....the requirements for Guatemalans wouldn't be anything like this. A Guat billionaire couldn't even qualify for a tourist card.
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rts551
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In the law and regulation it is quite clear the 180 day visa is for visitors (visitantes is their exact wording).
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
From the above publication in regard to the FMM.
"This visa can also be issued for 10 years, instead of 180 days, but the visa holder may not spend
more than 180 consecutive days in Mexico at one time."
?????????????????????????????????? <-- [my question marks] |
[Edited on 3-22-2014 by rts551]
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
what i don't get is what exactly is mexico after? do they really want us to hold these temporary and permanent visa's?? is it a way to raise revenue,
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Certainly not the Perm Res card, since it doesn't require renewal.
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if so why the heck do they make the financial requirements so ridiculous? im sure im not the only expat living comfortably on SS, nowhere close to
qualifying for either of these visa's! |
I thought they were allowing short income for the Temp Res card???
One thing for sure....the requirements for Guatemalans wouldn't be anything like this. A Guat billionaire couldn't even qualify for a tourist card.
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monthly income not less than $1900.00 or real estate exceeding $103,500.00 (for a temporary resident
status)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
or if you want to spend 20 bucks this is supposedly the tell all book updated last month.
http://www.mexperience.com/store/vuitem.php?itemid=26
what i don't get is what exactly is mexico after? do they really want us to hold these temporary and permanent visa's?? is it a way to raise revenue,
if so why the heck do they make the financial requirements so ridiculous? im sure im not the only expat living comfortably on SS, nowhere close to
qualifying for either of these visa's! |
Their stated intent was to simplify immigration procedures while attacking the issue of illegal immigration from the south. There is also a lot of
attention to human rights of both legal and illegal migrants. For example, both have legal access to medical care and education now.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
real estate exceeding $103,500.00 |
That figure is extremely flexible. My neighbor used his antiquated mobile home on rented land as his declaration of wealth and he got Perm Res.
Here we go again.....looking for absolutes in Mexico. Very frustrating.
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
real estate exceeding $103,500.00 |
That figure is extremely flexible. My neighbor used his antiquated mobile home on rented land as his declaration of wealth and he got Perm Res.
Here we go again.....looking for absolutes in Mexico. Very frustrating. |
could I inflate the value of a 14
year old 4runner? if not, im screwed 
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Riom
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
From the above publication in regard to the FMM.
"This visa can also be issued for 10 years, instead of 180 days, but the visa holder may not spend
more than 180 consecutive days in Mexico at one time."
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Sounds like they're confused between visas and entry permits. A visa is a document, applied for in advance at an embassy or consulate, that gives you
the right to turn up at the border to apply for entry. Mexico doesn't require a visa, if you're a tourist, and from a low-risk
country (like USA, Canada, Western Europe and many others). But, if you do need a tourist visa (you're from a high risk country), it is added to your
passport and is valid for 10 years, 180 days per entry, very similar to a US B1-B2 visa.
The FMM isn't a visa, it's an entry permit, that you're required to get (with some border exceptions) on entry (on payment of a fee)
and it records your arrival and (in theory) departure (within 180 days). The US has a similar form that is required in most cases for visitors (the
I-94) (Canadian's don't need them).
A good (free) source for accurate and up-to-date information on the current Mexican immigration process is at Yucalandia. A lot to read, and some things are a little different in Baja (mainly cars), but he does make a real effort to check the
actual laws and reliable sources (so he wouldn't fit in here at all!).
I'd agree with the other comments, for a yearly trip of under 6 months for a Canadian there's little reason to bother with Temporary or Permanent
Residence yet. There may be some cases where you need it (for example in San Felipe temporary or permanent residence is needed for a local drivers
license and car registration), but it's probably more flexible down south.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
could I inflate the value of a 14 year old 4runner? if not, im screwed
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Only if you're living in it. [wanna borrow a few bucks?]
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