BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
 Pages:  1  
Author: Subject: Cruise Ships in Santa Rosaliíta????
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline

Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja

[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 06:46 AM
Cruise Ships in Santa Rosaliíta????


From Ensenada.net

Article posted April 8, 2014
by Karla Lorena Lamas

The federal government intends to build two ports in Baja California, one for the movement of goods in El Sauzal, and one for the arrival of Santa Rosaliíta cruise ships, a few kilometers from Parallel 28.

During a meeting with the General Coordinator of Ports and Merchant Marine, Raúl Guillermo Ruiz de Teresa, and the governor, Francisco Vega de Lamadrid announced that reengineer the tourism and port area were performed.

"We will work today, we'll Guerrero Negros, hence Santa Rosaliíta, hence me on to La Paz, because we're going to work proposals that have cruise stops in the middle of Baja California. This, I say, has nothing to do with us, but exactly Ensenada is about because if we give them more options to cruise on down, will strengthen Ensenada "he said.

Teresa Ruiz said that the development work is in charge of the state and federal government but also with input from the private sector.

The State President said that these actions are considered within the Strategic Plan of Baja California whose purpose is to make ports more competitive and increase the capacity of moving goods.

"Knowing that you have to lead investment and jobs to remain competitive and, of course, knowing the advantages of our port of Ensenada, is precisely because the issue is of ports and tourism, El Sauzal project, together with the railroad, which connect to El Sauzal by Tecate and Ensenada that would connect with the new Otay II "explained the governor.

Among the projects include the modernization of the seafood market, better known as "Black Market", the Science Museum's Caracol, improve the city center, La Bufadora, and rehabilitate the coastal boulevard "Lázaro Cárdenas".


Although the number of cruise ship arrivals increased from 192 to 286 in 2013, only 30 and 40 percent of low passenger boats to visit the city, according to the Merchants Association in Ensenada Tourist Heading for that reason was given to the mayor Gilberto Hirata Chico will work on making the area attractive Ensenada.




View user's profile
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 19593
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Hot n spicy

[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 07:14 AM


The new cruises ship terminal will be a great addition to the marina they built a while back :lol:

They should hire the same design engineer!:lol:
View user's profile
Ateo
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 5914
Registered: 7-18-2011
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 07:20 AM


I can see hordes of people wanting to get off the ship and visit Santa Rosalillita.:no::no::no:



View user's profile
woody with a view
PITA Nomad
*******




Posts: 15939
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Everchangin'

[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 07:54 AM


Mexican daydreams......



View user's profile
daveB
Nomad
**




Posts: 244
Registered: 11-6-2003
Location: B.C. Canada
Member Is Offline

Mood: wondering about Nomads!

[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 08:55 AM


A cruise ship "home port" is being constructed at Puerto Penasco (Rocky Point) Sonora. This seems like a determined attempt so far, but if done to completion it would follow that other stops on the trip through the Sea of Cortes might be available for some of the action.
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline

Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja

[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 08:58 AM
Act now


Get on the ground floor and stake out your taco stands, curio shops and palapa bars catering to the tourists

Quote:
Originally posted by Ateo
I can see hordes of people wanting to get off the ship and visit Santa Rosalillita.:no::no::no:




View user's profile
Mula
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1656
Registered: 8-16-2011
Location: San Nicolas y Lopez Mateos
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 09:25 AM


Look at that they did to Xchlak and Mahahual over in Quintana Roo to take the excess cruise ships from Cozumel and Cancun. And that was in the early 2000's.

We were going to those places when there was nothing out there.. . not any more.
View user's profile
latina
Nomad
**




Posts: 210
Registered: 3-19-2011
Location: La Paz
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 09:37 AM


I just finished reading an online article about the cruise ship dock they are planning to build in San Carlos! Yikes!
View user's profile
TMW
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 10659
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 11:42 AM


I think it would be great for businesses in the area. The town will grow by leaps and bounds.
View user's profile
Udo
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 6364
Registered: 4-26-2008
Location: Black Hills, SD/Ensenada/San Felipe
Member Is Offline

Mood: TEQUILA!

[*] posted on 4-9-2014 at 12:40 PM


Santa Rosaliita with a cruise terminal???

There is not much there but a gorgeous beach, a secret surf spot, some lanchas, and a few local and a handful of gringos who live there year-round.




Udo

Youth is wasted on the young!

View user's profile
Majorcynik
Newbie





Posts: 16
Registered: 1-9-2014
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-11-2014 at 02:11 PM


Don't forget the failed "Escalaria project" Giant stone breakwater, 50 ton travel lift that doubles as an osprey nesting site, 2, 20,000 liter diesel tanks, a 3 story "office complex", panga washing stations, not to mention the 100's of power poles all the way from Guererro Negro, and the best 4 lane road in ALL of Baja.
I guess it never dawned on the project developers to hire an engineer?? When there is a sandy beach over a mile long, what did they expect would happen to the "port"?? You can wade across the harbor now. Might be good for clamming but is NO BUENO for any kind of harbor.
Cruise ship terminal/destination is another Mexican pipe dream. What I want to know is what they are smoking in that pipe???:lol:
View user's profile
Islandbuilder
Senior Nomad
***




Posts: 555
Registered: 11-9-2011
Location: nob
Member Is Offline

Mood: bewildered

[*] posted on 4-11-2014 at 02:44 PM


Well, Based on my experience with the major cruise lines in Alaska, the lack of existing infrastructure is exactly what they're looking for.

Santa Rosalillita is well located for side trips to Scammons, and perhaps a concession to drive buggies or quads up the beach. Surfing, SUP, fishing, etc are all possible, even though no one is doing it now.

If there is no one on the scene to provide those needed services, then the cruise lines get to create all that infrastructure themselves, and thus control both the quality and consistency of the experience. They also get to keep all of the profits.

They have built one remote cruise ship shore base (Hoonah) along with some community-based support, and have long wanted to do the same along the mainland shore between Juneau and Petersburg.

But Ensenada had better be aware! The ships schedules are tightly programmed, and they won't be able to ADD a day to their itineraries, so a stop at Rosalillita means another stop somewhere else will be eliminated. It is naive to assume that the ships will stop at two places only a few hours (at 25 knots) apart.

These big companies are profit driven, and are capable of investing millions to develop a venue that will add a few percent to their bottom line over the long term. If they want it, and have some community support (one or two well connected ejido leaders might be enough to get the thin edge of the wedge in) they can get it done.
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
bajaguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
Member Is Offline

Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja

[*] posted on 4-11-2014 at 02:49 PM


Just look at the massive pier rotting away at the Rosarito Beach Hotel......dreams and plans meet reality



View user's profile
willardguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6451
Registered: 9-19-2009
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-11-2014 at 02:56 PM


the idea behind the rosarito pier was to attract gamblers, unfortunately just about that time indian casino's sprung up all over. no need to cross the border. I still think rosarito with their beaches and mega clubs would offer the 3 day party cruisers a better deal than ensenada, if they could get em on shore safely.
View user's profile
elgatoloco
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 4342
Registered: 11-19-2002
Location: Yes
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-11-2014 at 03:32 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by willardguy
the idea behind the rosarito pier was to attract gamblers, unfortunately just about that time indian casino's sprung up all over. no need to cross the border. I still think rosarito with their beaches and mega clubs would offer the 3 day party cruisers a better deal than ensenada, if they could get em on shore safely.


Viejas was going to run regular trips to the pier. You could gamble your way down and then get a margarita or spend the night. Did not work out so well first time.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2000/apr/16/gambling-cruise-...

Later I read about ship being stranded on sand bar and that was end of that. December 2000 the company set up to run the cruises filed for bankruptcy.




MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys

View user's profile
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-11-2014 at 05:00 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by daveB
A cruise ship "home port" is being constructed at Puerto Penasco (Rocky Point) Sonora. This seems like a determined attempt so far, but if done to completion it would follow that other stops on the trip through the Sea of Cortes might be available for some of the action.


My guess is that the folks who own the Mayan Palace properties have some financial interest in this, as they have a big resort in the area that seems to never fill up.
View user's profile
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-11-2014 at 05:02 PM


For many years, the cruise lines have used "out islands" as a port stop. They are basically places they either own or rent that they use to have beach parties. This sounds similar to that.

And, can we get the friggin' spelling of the town correct? :biggrin:
View user's profile
Udo
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 6364
Registered: 4-26-2008
Location: Black Hills, SD/Ensenada/San Felipe
Member Is Offline

Mood: TEQUILA!

[*] posted on 4-11-2014 at 06:55 PM


What's wrong with Santa Rosaliita?

BTW
I think that in January though April schedules to Ojo De Libre would be sold out.

And Shari would have to hire employees to handle all the WHALEMAGIC tours.




Udo

Youth is wasted on the young!

View user's profile
BajaBlanca
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 13214
Registered: 10-28-2008
Location: La Bocana, BCS
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-11-2014 at 07:04 PM


wow, hard to imagine cruise ships is sleepy santa rosaliita (no idea how to spell it correctly) . It would really change the landscape drastically.




Come visit La Bocana


https://sites.google.com/view/bajabocanahotel/home

And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-12-2014 at 04:51 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Udo
What's wrong with Santa Rosaliita?

BTW
I think that in January though April schedules to Ojo De Libre would be sold out.

And Shari would have to hire employees to handle all the WHALEMAGIC tours.


Nice thought. But even if they build a cruise ship dock down there Ojo De Liebre would not work. Simply because those ship typically have thousands of passengers, and if my current info is correct, by government fiat, only six pangas are allowed out in the lagoon at any one time.
View user's profile
 Pages:  1  

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262