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snapshotdreams
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Sentri / Residency Complications
I need help, suggestions, and whatever else you can possibly offer...
I'm coming from Missouri and planned to stop off in SD to register my vehicle and get a new license. But today I received notice of "conditional
approval" for a Sentri pass. I registered under my current MO address but my intention was to have the registration for SD and my residency for
Mexico. They said I'd need proof of residency for SD since I'd no longer be a resident of MO.
Any suggestions? Should I just maintain my MO residency and take care of my plates and such later? This does mean driving out to SD later, rather than
along the way.
PLEASE HELP!!
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J.P.
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If it were me I would leave everything registered in Mo. even with the personal property tax in Mo. it would be cheaper.
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bajaguy
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SENTRI
Reschedule your SENTRI interview appointment, take care of business in SD, bring the SD paperwork with you to the appointment. You can make changes to
your application at the interview.
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bajalearner
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Did you ask what proof of residency can be? Is it a SD driver license? I guess it all depends what SENTRI accepts as proof of residency.
You can register to vote in SD whey you get the DL and car Reg. It is a separate process but it should be fast like everything else in SD.
I would ask SENTRI what would suffice for proof of residency. Such as a driver license, proof of voter registration, car reg. car insurance.
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bajalearner
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One thing I would not do, is try to deceive SENTRI because that is an automatic DQ. But if you are claiming residency in SD, there is nothing
illegal about that. I think you just need to see what is an acceptable proof of residency.
Maybe even though you are claiming SD, you can admit you are a nomad and traveling much of the time. But your home base is SD and you only have a mail
drop there but it is your legal State of Residence.
Is it hard to get a real person on the phone for answers?
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Ateo
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Go with what bajaguy said. My $.02. He knows this type of stuff.
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snapshotdreams
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Thanks everybody. It looks like the best route will be to wait on the South Dakota business and deal with it later.
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bajalearner
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| Quote: | Originally posted by snapshotdreams
Thanks everybody. It looks like the best route will be to wait on the South Dakota business and deal with it later. |
Check your U2.
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dasubergeek
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I was asked at my original SENTRI interview for utility bills.
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tjsue
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I wasn't asked for utility bills, but I took one anyway. They were mainly interested in my income.
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bajalearner
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dasubergeek
I was asked at my original SENTRI interview for utility bills. |
Obviously a PMB address will not have utilities. I wonder if the receipt for renting the PMB will work. Since there is such a thing as nomad living,
SENTRI should have something in place as documenting an address of record.
Mr. snapshotdreams, check your U2 mailbox. I sent you a note.
[Edited on 4-25-2014 by bajalearner]
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tjsue
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No, that won't work, they want proof of a physical address. I have a PMB, and had to show them proof of where actually I live (lease or rent receipt).
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bajalearner
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I guess a lease for a Tijuana address would work even S. Dakota would be the state of record.
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UN/free
your PAPER PLEEEZE !!! funny,,,, the folks from the usa think that they live in a Free country !!!
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tjsue
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I took my lease and rent receipt from where I live in Tijuana, and that was acceptable.
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And once you are disqualified it is forever
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalearner
One thing I would not do, is try to deceive SENTRI because that is an automatic DQ.
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When I applied for SENTRI I answered NO to the question "have you ever been arrested" and at the interview I was told "Think very carefully about your
answer to that question" and again I replied "No, I have never been arrested". Turns out that back in 1957 I appeared in court with 5 tickets in 1
month for driving a car with loud exhaust pipes and the judge sentenced me to serve a weekend in jail. Even after I went to court and had that record
expunged SENTRI said that I could not reapply because I had LIED to them 
Bob Durrell
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tjsue
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I guess they go all the way back to the day that you were born to see what they can find.
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snapshotdreams
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalearner
Is it hard to get a real person on the phone for answers? |
Actually, I don't think I've ever gotten through to a government office so quickly. I called three different times (trying different hypothetical
angles) and each time I spoke to someone fairly quickly.
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snapshotdreams
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tjsue
I took my lease and rent receipt from where I live in Tijuana, and that was acceptable. |
Yes, these are definitely acceptable forms.
In one phone call, I told them I was converting to a nomadic lifestyle and wouldn't have rent or utilities in South Dakota. Her response was that
proof of residency is a requirement. I told her again, "but I don't have those. All I have is a mailbox in South Dakota," and she said it would be
left up to the discretion of the interviewing officer. So I asked if they had any standard protocol on the matter and why would it be left up to one
person's opinion and she gave me nothing more. (She was the only one of the three I spoke to that didn't come across as very nice but it might have
been because of the challenge I presented.)
Because of that reaction, (and some friendly suggestions) I'll be waiting until I arrive and hopefully receive my Sentri pass, before I handle the SD
business. I'll bring residency documents for both MO and Mexico.
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snapshotdreams
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalearner
| Quote: | Originally posted by dasubergeek
I was asked at my original SENTRI interview for utility bills. |
Obviously a PMB address will not have utilities. I wonder if the receipt for renting the PMB will work. Since there is such a thing as nomad living,
SENTRI should have something in place as documenting an address of record.
Mr. snapshotdreams, check your U2 mailbox. I sent you a note.
[Edited on 4-25-2014 by bajalearner] |
The problem here, realistically lies in the fact that I applied before I arrived. So my application says MO, my residency will say Mexico, and my
driver's license and plates would (if I handled it now) say SD- which contradicts what the application says. While friendly, the people at Otay
didn't seem equipped to handle "docs say #1, but now I'm #2, but physically I'm #3" so I'm cutting #2 out of the equation. They said just bring proof
of change of address and it won't be a problem.
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