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Bajayan
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Plants into Baja
Has anyone taken plants with them to Baja Sur? Is it legal? Is there a quarantine system/fee? Is it just to complicated to consider?
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajayan
Has anyone taken plants with them to Baja Sur? Is it legal? Is there a quarantine system/fee? Is it just to complicated to consider?
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As far as I know (from personal experience) it's not the plants that are illegal to import; it's the dirt they are planted in. Bare root plants are OK
as long as they aren't pot.
Bob Durrell
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I'll second Bob's assessment.
When we reach the 28th parallel, the agriculture department always asks about plants. And in some instances they have searched our car.
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David K
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There are other roads into Baja Sur than on the highway. Remove all soil if you want to.
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bajaguy
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Advocating skirting or breaking the law???
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
There are other roads into Baja Sur than on the highway. Remove all soil if you want to. |
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
There are other roads into Baja Sur than on the highway. Remove all soil if you want to. |
Very sound advice if you're a proponent of breaking the law
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David K
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No you two... There are other open 'legal' roads into Baja Sur, that is all. None have any sign posted with any 'rules' about what goes across.
Are you assuming this fellow is knowingly infesting an entire state with bugs? You missed where I said he can remove the soil if he is concerned.
Why do you assume government knows best on everything? Some people actually know more than government.
[Edited on 5-2-2014 by David K]
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danaeb
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Some people actually know more than government.
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Believe it or not, David, the "government" is made up of "some people" who are actually interested in protecting the interests of their countrymen (in
this case growers) who could be negatively affected by the unknowing importation of destructive insects/organisms whether on the plant itself or in
the soil. The plants themselves, even if non-infested, can become invasive.
Not all government is evil.
[Edited on 5-2-2014 by danaeb]
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Bajayan
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| Quote: | | As far as I know (from personal experience) it's not the plants that are illegal to import; it's the dirt they are planted in. Bare root plants are OK
as long as they aren't pot. |
Interesting, I guess that could work. I'll ask when I go through as well next time and hope not to lose any cuttings...
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blackwolfmt
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So a few plants in a container of water will work fine, that's all I needed to know, I think I will ask my sis's boyfriend I am sure he said he buys
plants at home depot in Phoenix and takes them to his mom in Hermosillo all the time
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Bajaboy
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I was specifically told that I could not bring plants (grapes) from BC to BCS by the ag guys at the State line.
David K, your logic makes no sense....once again.
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Why not just buy what's locally available? Please think twice before bringing your plants across the border.
Here are just a few examples of devastating affects to commercial crops of "imported" insects:
http://www.farmbureauvc.com/pest.html
[Edited on 5-2-2014 by danaeb]
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blackwolfmt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by danaeb
Why not just buy what's locally available? Please think twice before bringing your plants across the border.
Here are just a few examples of devastating affects to commercial crops of "imported" insects:
http://www.farmbureauvc.com/pest.html
[Edited on 5-2-2014 by danaeb] |
Yes danaeb I have a small nursery Organic so I don't use pesticides or herbs, and bugs make my days frustrating, believe me I will just pick up a few
cactus plants when i'm there after all i'm in BAJA
glad I don't have these yet the Asian citrus psyllid
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My wife got stopped from entering Mexico at San Ysidro with a potted plant (a palm) purchased at Home Depot. Yes, the problem was with the soil.
Our soils have problems that don't occur in Mexico and vice/versa. This type of inspection is a world effort to control infestations.
The inspector was correct.
bacquito
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| Quote: | Originally posted by blackwolfmt
| Quote: | Originally posted by danaeb
Why not just buy what's locally available? Please think twice before bringing your plants across the border.
Here are just a few examples of devastating affects to commercial crops of "imported" insects:
http://www.farmbureauvc.com/pest.html
[Edited on 5-2-2014 by danaeb] |
Yes danaeb I have a small nursery Organic so I don't use pesticides or herbs, and bugs make my days frustrating, believe me I will just pick up a few
cactus plants when i'm there after all i'm in BAJA
glad I don't have these yet the Asian citrus psyllid |
The Asian citrus psyllid has shown up in Yuma Az, and Rio San Luis, Mexico- it is on the way!!
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bacquito
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajayan
| Quote: | | As far as I know (from personal experience) it's not the plants that are illegal to import; it's the dirt they are planted in. Bare root plants are OK
as long as they aren't pot. |
Interesting, I guess that could work. I'll ask when I go through as well next time and hope not to lose any cuttings... |
If the plant itself is not a problem!!
bacquito
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http://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/reinounido/index.php/visas/79#7
•The Ministry of Agriculture prohibits the following goods since they represent a great risk for the introduction of plagues and diseases: earth,
straw, padded containers of hay, straw decorations without processing; homemade foods; flours of animal origin; fresh, dry, canned or frozen meat and
meat products, such as smoky, salted and mature sausages that have been elaborated in countries under absolute quarantine (Europe, Africa, Asia and
South America).
For additional information please visit the website:
www.sagarpa.gob.mx
The Federal Law on Plant Health – The Plant Health Law authorizes SAGARPA to reduce the risks of microbiological, physical and chemical contamination
in the production of crops and to take actions to promote and protect plant health.
According to the Law, phytosanitary certificates are required for imports likely to host diseases or pests. While some agricultural products may be
the subject of specific regulations, such as NOM-012-FITO-1996 on preventing the introduction of potato pests, the Plant Health Law also requires
SAGARPA to develop Phytosanitary Requirement sheets (Hojas de Requisitos Fitosanitarios) which also lay out specific requirements for imported plant
products.
http://www.senasica.gob.mx/?Idioma=2&id=622
[Edited on 5-2-2014 by bajaguy]
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Not ALL Government is EVIL ?
Actually, most government is not Evil.
Unnecessary and Corrupt might be the majority, though.
Especially in Mexico.
Not that corruption there isn't at times good.
I always found Mordida to be a good way to do business with the authorities.
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I didn't know this. I crossed at SY with 2 4 ft tall potted plants. I rolled the side windows down as usual when I drove past the officials who did
not stop me. I took them to my place in TJ. Sounds like I was in violation.
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Just don't do it! Invasive species, both plant and pathogenic are a global problem of enormous cost to everyone.
Certainty is the child of ignorance, knowledge is the mother of doubt. Question everything!
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