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chuckie
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Really?
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
as for gas...bajabuddha...if you are shorted gas...prove it...urban myth
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I don't have to prove a gawddanged thing to you. You can take my word for it, or put it in your.... cupboard. I said it does happen occasionally;
I've had plastic bottles filled more on the pumps than the bottle would hold, so if you're calling me a liar, fine. It is OCCASIONAL, and it ain't
urban. And, I have been shorted change from dollars to pesos at the infamously honest Rosarito station too; you'll just have to believe me, or keep
your insults to yourself, please.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
drugs are rampant and a real problem in Baja Sur. Way more than marginal, its am epidemic. Especially crack and meth. Most people that live there
know that. |
A very sad, but very real problem. Sometimes who is selling the drugs in a community is quite surprising.
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Bob and Susan
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here's your chance...
while you are in your summer home in the USA...
measure with a plastic measuring device 5 gallons in your can
there's a device in your kitchen
(don't trust the mark on your can...that may not be correct)
and you cant trust the USA gas station either
mark the fill line with a sharpie (5 gallons)
then when you come in the winter ask for 18.93 liters of gas
see if the amount matches
it's that easy...you will sleep better
you're not getting cheated
as for being cheated when getting change...I believe it
but...
that's YOUR fault...
agree on the rate BEFORE you pump and have a calculator available to check YOUR math
don't leave till you get the correct change just like you would at a USA store
a few months ago I bought 3300 pesos diesel...
I gave the guy 3200...you should have seen his face
we counted together...I was wrong
sometimes i'm wrong
don't tell anyone
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bajabuddha
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here's your chance...
Oops, my give-o-chit gas gauge just broke... too late.
Thanks for the lecture though, I feel much better now.
{my edit} and yes, the 'cheated at change' was MY fault, I admit, won't go into the particulars. Still, a rip-off is a crime, no matter who's
''FAULT'' you put it on. Point is, count your change, and with pesos there's no 'exchange rate' or need for calculator and pencil.
[Edited on 9-27-2014 by bajabuddha]
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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willardguy
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yup! just fill up that 5 gallon jug using a measuring cup from the kitchen, uh, 80 times from another 5 gallon jug, that'll teach ya! 
[Edited on 9-27-2014 by willardguy]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
A very sad, but very real problem. Sometimes who is selling the drugs in a community is quite surprising. |
Ohhh...don't let the badge and gun throw you.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
A very sad, but very real problem. Sometimes who is selling the drugs in a community is quite surprising. |
Ohhh...don't let the badge and gun throw you. |
 Or the look of a legitimate business.
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Ken Cooke
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When I do my Baja runs, I will fill my gas tank separately from my two 5 gal/18 liter gerry cans - paying to fill them one at a time to test this
possibility. I will report back with my observations.
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David K
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Let us know where they get 22 litres into your 19 litre (5 gal) cans.
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Bob and Susan
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it's 18.93...
not 18 and not 19
and you have to calibrate the can first
you cant trust the markers on the can
im interested ken
and where
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Sandlefoot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
it's 18.93...
not 18 and not 19
and you have to calibrate the can first
you cant trust the markers on the can
im interested ken
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And PI is:3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937
510582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706
798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812
848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914
564856692346034861045432664821339360726024914127372
458700660631558817488152092096282925409171536436789
2590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609...
So now you can be close!!!!! (But there are more places, if you need to be really closer)
[Edited on 9-28-2014 by BajaNomad]
" Don't find fault, find a remedy; anyone can complain." Henry Ford
If you are not living on the edge...you are taking up to much space!
Just because it may not be a good idea does not mean it will not be fun!!!
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AKgringo
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Well as long as we are going to hold Pemex accountable for pouring an accurate liter, don't forget to factor in the expansion and contraction of
gasoline due to temperature change!
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travelinman
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Thank you all for your help on updating my knowledge of current security issues in Baja.
I will write another question or two soon, on other topics.
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dasubergeek
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I'll chime in. I managed to somehow fit 104 litres into my 98-litre (26-gallon) tank at the Pemex in San Antonio de las Minas.
It isn't urban myth, Bob and Susan, even the gubmint keeps track. Google "lista negra de gasolineras".
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chuckie
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And! It just is....Not worth getting knicker knots over, been beat to death..
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bajabuddha
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Ditto, that's what I said in the first place. Don't be surprised, ain't no big thang. You'd have to check every station in Baja FFS. This topic HAS
been beaten to death already, so do whatever you like.
Sorry for the fuss, travelinman... good luck on your next thread.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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travelinman
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A gas rip-off story to change the pace a bit:
It was a cold and snowy day on the top of the mountain range between Ensenada and San Felipe. Due to the blanket of unusual snow I was crawling allow
in our RV and trying, unsuccessfully, to miss the snow covered potholes. Due to the slow progress, we were running out of gas and I was worried.
There in the distance was a lone gas station, with no one around except a man leaning against a post. There was no gas prices listed. There was nobody
in the building. the guy on the post just looked at me. It was still snowing...and the pumps were on.
At that moment in time, I did not care who I paid, what I paid, or whether they would cheat me. I paid the silent stranger what I thought the liters
would be, paid him extra and hit the road.
I may have been ripped off and I am still so grateful that gas station was there! Maybe that silent man, who was waiting for a friend or bus, is still
confused and remembers it, too.
I agree with many of all your thoughts, on Mexico and gas. I usually TIA(Tip in Advance), watch them pump and try to keep it honest and hope that the
station hasn't messed with the gauges. Otherwise, it is not worth my BP going up. There is nothing I can do about the rest. If I knew the bad ones, I
would go elsewhere next time. You experts probably know which ones, if any, have bad practices. On a normal trip, I would not have the knowledge to
worry about it.
One time north of the turnoff to Bahia de Los Angeles, some enterprising locals had hauled 50 gallon drums to the location of the closed Pemex. They
were hand-pumping gas into you can or rig. I was really ripped off and I still want to thank them for being there. Worth every peso. :-)
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
drugs are rampant and a real problem in Baja Sur. Way more than marginal, its am epidemic. Especially crack and meth. Most people that live there
know that. |
Yes, there are addicts and there are sellers. Bigger problem in bigger cities. In towns with population under 50K this this is mostly "their" problem,
violence is rare and all that you can get is same old theft. They could break into your home during off-season, but they won't stop you on the street
in daylight, and you won't see them using in back alleys - there are no back alleys in small towns. Cops are selling it, military are selling it.
It's been like this for quite a while, OP won't find too many changes after 10 years absence. Population is small, and so is the market. No
comparison to mainland, or real big cities like Tijuana. Though, I wouldn't wander in the night, drunk, around non-tourist area of a more-less big
town - say, anything with traffic lights.
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by travelinman
One time north of the turnoff to Bahia de Los Angeles, some enterprising locals had hauled 50 gallon drums to the location of the closed Pemex. They
were hand-pumping gas into you can or rig. I was really ripped off and I still want to thank them for being there. Worth every peso. :-)
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These two guys with pickup and barrels are a permanent fixture. Always there. They live in few miles down the road. They gave me a ride to BOLA a
couple of times, when I was coming by bus. There are ruins of Pemex right next to them, I wonder what will happen to their business if Pemex suddenly
reopens.
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