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micah202
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Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
The one answer that will stem and control (not cure) the problem is to LEGALIZE POT. |
...LaPaz...the boy...crossfire....gangs.............do you think that's mostly over pot?.....I'd be guessing Coca and meth,no?
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Quote: | Originally posted by micah202
Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
The one answer that will stem and control (not cure) the problem is to LEGALIZE POT. |
...LaPaz...the boy...crossfire....gangs.............do you think that's mostly over pot?.....I'd be guessing Coca and meth,no? |
Indirectly, i'd say yes, it is over pot first, as that is still their primary export for now. As I first stated, it isn't going to get rid of the
Cartels; we still have The Mob in our own backyard, and always will. My point is that prohibition makes for bigger gangsters with more power; when
alcohol was re-legalized, the shoot-em-up Chicago days lessened. Illicit drugs will always be a bane of (especially our) society, but pot shouldn't
be 'illicit'. Not to mention the burden it puts on our incarceration system; we have more people in jail than anywhere in the world, and a very large
quantity of it is from simple possession. It would lessen our jail overcrowding and spending, and allow a closer and more focused attack on 'cooked'
drugs.
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Ah Si.....But does it matter?
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Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
I don't have any argument with legalizing pot in the US but I don't think it will have any impact on organized crime in Mexico. These cartel guys
aren't going to apply for a job at Pemex when their pot income dries up. There are lots of ways to make a buck illegally, human trafficking,
extortion, kidnapping etc. I think I'd rather let them have their pot income than have them sending you body parts of your loved one in a ransom
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there's your answer! to say nothing yet everything, it is what it is.
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The death of any child anywhere is terrible.
I just watched a report on the news about 4 people who were run over in Oregon while walking on their neighborhood sidewalk during trick or treat time
on Halloween eve. A 7-year-old girl was killed, and another child and 2 adults are hospitalized in serious condition. The driver reported to police
that he lost control during a 'lane change', swerved, jumped the curb and ran over the group walking on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, he escaped
injury.
The driver admitted to having smoked pot in the last 2 hours and also was a frequent user of meth. He is currently in jail and charged with the death
of the little girl.
In todays courts he may get a fine. For sure he will be able to smoke pot again anytime he wants. The little girl does not have that option...she's
dead.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
The death of any child anywhere is terrible.
I just watched a report on the news about 4 people who were run over in Oregon while walking on their neighborhood sidewalk during trick or treat time
on Halloween eve. A 7-year-old girl was killed, and another child and 2 adults are hospitalized in serious condition. The driver reported to police
that he lost control during a 'lane change', swerved, jumped the curb and ran over the group walking on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, he escaped
injury.
The driver admitted to having smoked pot in the last 2 hours and also was a frequent user of meth. He is currently in jail and charged with the death
of the little girl.
In todays courts he may get a fine. For sure he will be able to smoke pot again anytime he wants. The little girl does not have that option...she's
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I don't think he just gets a fine, Roger. In that case, it's not a question of possession, it's a question of killing someone with a vehicle while
under the influence. For those purposes, Oregon's (and I suspect most states') restrictions on pot are even stricter than on alcohol:
"It is illegal to drive a vehicle while under the influence of marijuana, alcohol, other drugs, or a combination of substances. When alcohol is
involved, a blood alcohol level of 0.08 percent of the driver's blood, by volume, will conclusively establish that the driver is under the influence
(if the level is less, the prosecutor can still point to the driver's actions to prove that he was under the influence).
When marijuana is involved, however, any amount of marijuana that was in the driver’s blood or urine while he was driving will establish that the
driver was under the influence. (Or. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 813.010.)
This guy will be doing time for criminally negligent homicide, at a minimum.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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I know, DanO...I was being deliberately flippant. Enforcement of present day drug laws is becoming a thing of the past.
I have two beautiful and healthy grandgirls. The thought of this creep getting his high and killing a little girl makes my blood boil.
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As it should. Seems like being a kid these days is like running a fricking gauntlet. A sorry state of affairs. I blame the internet (present
company excepted of course).
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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