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[*] posted on 11-6-2014 at 04:36 PM


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The one answer that will stem and control (not cure) the problem is to LEGALIZE POT.


...LaPaz...the boy...crossfire....gangs.............do you think that's mostly over pot?.....I'd be guessing Coca and meth,no?:?:
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[*] posted on 11-6-2014 at 04:51 PM


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The one answer that will stem and control (not cure) the problem is to LEGALIZE POT.


...LaPaz...the boy...crossfire....gangs.............do you think that's mostly over pot?.....I'd be guessing Coca and meth,no?:?:

Indirectly, i'd say yes, it is over pot first, as that is still their primary export for now. As I first stated, it isn't going to get rid of the Cartels; we still have The Mob in our own backyard, and always will. My point is that prohibition makes for bigger gangsters with more power; when alcohol was re-legalized, the shoot-em-up Chicago days lessened. Illicit drugs will always be a bane of (especially our) society, but pot shouldn't be 'illicit'. Not to mention the burden it puts on our incarceration system; we have more people in jail than anywhere in the world, and a very large quantity of it is from simple possession. It would lessen our jail overcrowding and spending, and allow a closer and more focused attack on 'cooked' drugs.




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[*] posted on 11-6-2014 at 04:51 PM


Ah Si.....But does it matter?



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[*] posted on 11-6-2014 at 05:10 PM


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I don't have any argument with legalizing pot in the US but I don't think it will have any impact on organized crime in Mexico. These cartel guys aren't going to apply for a job at Pemex when their pot income dries up. There are lots of ways to make a buck illegally, human trafficking, extortion, kidnapping etc. I think I'd rather let them have their pot income than have them sending you body parts of your loved one in a ransom demand.

there's your answer! to say nothing yet everything, it is what it is.:(
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[*] posted on 11-6-2014 at 05:36 PM


The death of any child anywhere is terrible.

I just watched a report on the news about 4 people who were run over in Oregon while walking on their neighborhood sidewalk during trick or treat time on Halloween eve. A 7-year-old girl was killed, and another child and 2 adults are hospitalized in serious condition. The driver reported to police that he lost control during a 'lane change', swerved, jumped the curb and ran over the group walking on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, he escaped injury.

The driver admitted to having smoked pot in the last 2 hours and also was a frequent user of meth. He is currently in jail and charged with the death of the little girl.

In todays courts he may get a fine. For sure he will be able to smoke pot again anytime he wants. The little girl does not have that option...she's dead.




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[*] posted on 11-6-2014 at 06:01 PM


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The death of any child anywhere is terrible.

I just watched a report on the news about 4 people who were run over in Oregon while walking on their neighborhood sidewalk during trick or treat time on Halloween eve. A 7-year-old girl was killed, and another child and 2 adults are hospitalized in serious condition. The driver reported to police that he lost control during a 'lane change', swerved, jumped the curb and ran over the group walking on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, he escaped injury.

The driver admitted to having smoked pot in the last 2 hours and also was a frequent user of meth. He is currently in jail and charged with the death of the little girl.

In todays courts he may get a fine. For sure he will be able to smoke pot again anytime he wants. The little girl does not have that option...she's dead.


I don't think he just gets a fine, Roger. In that case, it's not a question of possession, it's a question of killing someone with a vehicle while under the influence. For those purposes, Oregon's (and I suspect most states') restrictions on pot are even stricter than on alcohol:

"It is illegal to drive a vehicle while under the influence of marijuana, alcohol, other drugs, or a combination of substances. When alcohol is involved, a blood alcohol level of 0.08 percent of the driver's blood, by volume, will conclusively establish that the driver is under the influence (if the level is less, the prosecutor can still point to the driver's actions to prove that he was under the influence).

When marijuana is involved, however, any amount of marijuana that was in the driver’s blood or urine while he was driving will establish that the driver was under the influence. (Or. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 813.010.)

This guy will be doing time for criminally negligent homicide, at a minimum.




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[*] posted on 11-6-2014 at 06:08 PM


I know, DanO...I was being deliberately flippant. Enforcement of present day drug laws is becoming a thing of the past.

I have two beautiful and healthy grandgirls. The thought of this creep getting his high and killing a little girl makes my blood boil.




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[*] posted on 11-6-2014 at 06:29 PM


As it should. Seems like being a kid these days is like running a fricking gauntlet. A sorry state of affairs. I blame the internet (present company excepted of course).



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