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Unfortunate Article about violence in Baja
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2849818/Killings...
Found this article today. I was wondering how long it was going to take before a vacuum was created by the Chapo's take down.
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Killings surge in Mexico state at tip of Baja
So I was wondering if Odile has caused an upswing or has this been brewing for a while, Kinda suks I was looking forward to spending some time in what
I thought a peaceful place compared to the mainland
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/killings-surge-in-mexico...
[Edited on 11-27-2014 by BajaNomad]
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why unfortunate? seemed pretty factual to me. Actually pretty tame.
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It is unfortunate because it was, very tame, but t appears to be getting swept up into the vacuum with an opening in the "C" level of the sinaloa
cartel
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48 killings this year so far, but no previous numbers to validate the point that there's an increase. Poorly written
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The only thing that is unfortunate is that it has taken this long for people to admit that B.C.S. is as dangerous as the rest of Mexico. And not " you
get the same crime as most american cities".
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Quote: Originally posted by luv2fish  | The only thing that is unfortunate is that it has taken this long for people to admit that B.C.S. is as dangerous as the rest of Mexico. And not " you
get the same crime as most american cities".
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ahh well....join the club! 
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=...
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I was messaged today about a shooting at one of the gas stations in Guerrero Negro. I hope it wasn't true...real close to home for a lot of us.
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I am camped in La Ventana which is about 30 miles South of La Paz. About a week ago there was a drug related killing just a few blocks from the camp.
I heard at least 3 shots and one person was killed and a 13 year old boy was hit in the leg. Other people heard 4 shots. It sounded to me like two
different guns. One was much louder than the other.
If you ask a local about it, they do not want to say very much.
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La Paz: Health & Safety from trip adviser
| Quote: Originally posted by luv2fish | The only thing that is unfortunate is that it has taken this long for people to admit that B.C.S. is as dangerous as the rest of Mexico. And not " you
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I wouldn't compare La paz to a USA city that I go to vacation at ??
here is a article from trip advisor Nov 2nd
La Paz is a fairly safe place to visit. Having said this, there are certain precautions that should be taken in order to ensure a smooth
trip through Baja California. Like always, common sense is the best tool for staying safe.
Travelers to the area should know that La Paz does have a few dishonest policemen, crime and petty theft. But the majority of these
situations can be avoided by following a few basic rules.
Do not pay any traffic ticket fines directly to a policeman. They will stop you on a weekend when their office is closed or on the way to
the airport when you are in a hurry. Let them write a ticket instead of paying them directly. There is a good chance they will suddenly "get an
urgent call" and have to leave.
Avoid wandering around local streets while standing out as a tourist. Although in general locals are friendly, some look for trouble. If
it is necessary to visit non-tourist areas, travel with a group.
Avoid wearing expensive jewelry, carrying large amounts of cash, looking flashy, or causing a scene. Doing any of these is asking for
trouble.
Avoid traveling alone at night. This is a general recommendation for any unfamiliar area, but should be followed all along the La Paz as
well.
Valuables should never be left unattended at the beach. Even leaving irreplaceable items in rooms is not a wise decision. Instead, see
if a security lock box is available. If not, store the valuables with the accommodation’s front desk, but make sure to obtain an itemized receipt
before leaving the valuables behind.
Many people visit La Paz for the water activities. With this there are certain inherent dangers that go along with spending time in the
water. Visit the American Red Cross website for some useful water safety tips.
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mojo_norte
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| Quote: Originally posted by wiltonh | I am camped in La Ventana which is about 30 miles South of La Paz. About a week ago there was a drug related killing just a few blocks from the camp.
I heard at least 3 shots and one person was killed and a 13 year old boy was hit in the leg. Other people heard 4 shots. It sounded to me like two
different guns. One was much louder than the other.
If you ask a local about it, they do not want to say very much.
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a battle over the Kiteboarder weed market?
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blackwolfmt
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| Quote: Originally posted by mojo_norte | | Quote: Originally posted by wiltonh | I am camped in La Ventana which is about 30 miles South of La Paz. About a week ago there was a drug related killing just a few blocks from the camp.
I heard at least 3 shots and one person was killed and a 13 year old boy was hit in the leg. Other people heard 4 shots. It sounded to me like two
different guns. One was much louder than the other.
If you ask a local about it, they do not want to say very much.
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a battle over the Kiteboarder weed market? |
guess it's time for rec MOTA
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I beg to differ. Here is the latest from Civil Protection In La Paz for all citizens. It outlines protective measures they should take for their own
safety.
http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/emite-proteccion-civil-de-la-paz-r...
| Quote: Originally posted by blackwolfmt | | Quote: Originally posted by luv2fish | The only thing that is unfortunate is that it has taken this long for people to admit that B.C.S. is as dangerous as the rest of Mexico. And not " you
get the same crime as most american cities".
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I wouldn't compare La paz to a USA city that I go to vacation at ??
here is a article from trip advisor Nov 2nd
La Paz is a fairly safe place to visit. Having said this, there are certain precautions that should be taken in order to ensure a smooth
trip through Baja California. Like always, common sense is the best tool for staying safe.
Travelers to the area should know that La Paz does have a few dishonest policemen, crime and petty theft. But the majority of these
situations can be avoided by following a few basic rules.
Do not pay any traffic ticket fines directly to a policeman. They will stop you on a weekend when their office is closed or on the way to
the airport when you are in a hurry. Let them write a ticket instead of paying them directly. There is a good chance they will suddenly "get an
urgent call" and have to leave.
Avoid wandering around local streets while standing out as a tourist. Although in general locals are friendly, some look for trouble. If
it is necessary to visit non-tourist areas, travel with a group.
Avoid wearing expensive jewelry, carrying large amounts of cash, looking flashy, or causing a scene. Doing any of these is asking for
trouble.
Avoid traveling alone at night. This is a general recommendation for any unfamiliar area, but should be followed all along the La Paz as
well.
Valuables should never be left unattended at the beach. Even leaving irreplaceable items in rooms is not a wise decision. Instead, see
if a security lock box is available. If not, store the valuables with the accommodation’s front desk, but make sure to obtain an itemized receipt
before leaving the valuables behind.
Many people visit La Paz for the water activities. With this there are certain inherent dangers that go along with spending time in the
water. Visit the American Red Cross website for some useful water safety tips. |
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blackwolfmt
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thanks for the info rts, I'm just trying to get the big pic
Protection Municipal made a number of recommendations, including those found no nightlife to the street and secure doors and windows.
In a press release, the company was asked to not be swayed by "unfounded actions against civilians by organized crime rumors." The population was
requested to keep calm and not spread false information.
"Remember that at this time the burning of fireworks and we are experiencing psychosis can confuse us. Avoid spreading panic among the population. Do
not risk it out in the middle of an event of this kind, "was recommended.
Self-protection measures recommended for the population are:
Avoid circular or walking late at night without an important reason; especially in areas with poor lighting or depopulated. If you have to move or
walk under these circumstances, try not to do it alone.
Secure all doors and windows when leaving home or before bedtime.
Remove from the windows of your vehicle polarized role very dark and if necessary use the authority permits, so that you can appreciate from the
outside an abnormality that might be happening inside your vehicle.
Always carry with them an official identification and the place where she works.
If the circulating go on foot or in a vehicle by a competent authority asks you to stop, do so immediately. If you are driving, turn the interior
light and lower the windows. Answer questions they might do and identify with security personnel.
If you live or is moving, like sounds were heard detonations, seek refuge in your home or nearest public or commercial building; If you are
driving, leave the area and report what happened only when he witnessed and is aware that this is gun shots. Remember that at this time, the burning
of fireworks and we are experiencing psychosis can confuse us. Avoid spreading panic among the population.
If you have information about people, events or vehicle and want to report it but feel unsure, do it through the phone service 088 from any pay
phone.
If left in the middle of a crossfire, do not think, as soon as possible lie face down, covering his head and stuck to a wall. Do not try to see
what is happening, do not take pictures or film the events. If you are a minor, lay him down with you and protect your body. If you take a person with
disabilities, lay him on the floor too and cover his head. Do not get out until you have not arrived to the place units of Public Security. If the
shooting continues, follow in the same position and await instructions from the authority.
Being drug dealer is not fashionable. Do not imitate. No invent.
Remember that if occupies help, the number to call is 066, from any conventional telephone, cellular or public. It's free.
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Yep! The good old days are fading.....
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Killings ARE Unfortunate
Especially for the Killed.
More importantly, they tend to have a negative effect on tourism.
Perhaps, the government should try to negotiate an agreement wherein the unfortunate events are confined to off-peak
seasons.
I think John Kerry would be a good choice for said negotiations given his recent successes.
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