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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 02:35 PM


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That is the goal of GM... but it doesn't take owning one to know it will not hold up, have the resale value, or perform as well as a Toyota Tacoma. ........


Since the Colorado for 2015 is a totally different truck than the older discontinued Colorado, are you sure? Can you provide some information? Some back up to your statement?

So far, the test drives we have read are quite positive. Would be curious to read some negative reviews????


It is made by GM, that's all I need to know... Let's not get into why non-American brand autos are superior in quality, no matter where they are made... instead, let TIME tell. I hope it is a GREAT truck! That will only help keep Tacoma prices lower, for future owners.


I had a terrible experience with my last Tacoma (2009). Might have just been a lemon, my other Toyotas were stellar. Thank goodness we bought the extended warrany. My 2000 Silverado had 205,000 miles on it with the only major work in 15 years being the transfer case going out last year. Traded them both in and got a 2015 Silverado 2500---payload is 1000 lbs more than the last Chevy, drives beautifully, and not too much lower than the Tacoma's gas mileage which has a crappy payload capacity. So, back to one truck for work and Baja!


Bummer on the '09! One of the Tacomas on our Mission Santa Maria run was an '09... no issues with it. He did have a front locker added, didn't trust the A-TRAC to do the kind of rock climbing he does.

My 2010 is 5 years old this week (bought in Dec. 2009)... It just tripped 70,000 miles (the least mileage of my three Tacomas which all were traded in before 5 years were up)... and I have to say, of the three, this one is the most awesome... and the A-TRAC and TRAC systems as well as the quality control and parts quality is why. A water pump was replaced when a drip was noticed recently. My 2001 was perfect, only the water pump was replaced at 90,000 miles because of a drip seen. My 2005 had a couple of issues (brake noise for a few months and ABS system issue I didn't like, suspension was too soft in back, finally the clock-spring cable in steering wheel failed causing the air bag light to come on).




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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 03:32 PM


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When we ought our new truck last year, we looked at the various options. Don't know about the GM cars, but Ford and RAM full size trucks are equal or better to the gas mileage of the Tacoma and you get a roomier truck. Looking at quality and convenience, the RAM was up there with the best of them and many times rated tops. Toyota is going to have to address modernization to include mileage in my estimation.


No one beats Toyota for reliability. As far as gas mileage goes whats posted on a window or reported in a magazine does not mean that's what you will get.

From Last months Consumer Reports


In case you can't read the first one, full size Trucks


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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 03:35 PM


I will also add that I would be very weary of buying a new re-designed vehicle of any make unless you don't mind living with the problems and repairs as they make good on what they didn't do right the first time.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 03:41 PM


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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 03:50 PM


I believe it! The only truck you see more of down here on the mainland than the Taco is the Toyota Hilux. Not sure where they are coming from but they are everywhere.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 04:01 PM


The Hilux is the model sold in the rest of the world outside of the U.S. and Canada and Mexico. It is highly desired by die hard Toyota fans, as it is considered a 'true truck'! It also is available as a diesel.

Here is a 2012 comparison Tacoma vs Hilux:
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/10/sibling-rivalry-2012-to...




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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 04:08 PM


Lets be fair here. The 2015 Consumers Report Buyers guide page 156 lists the Ram 1500 diesel top rated and Gas Ram 1500 second... then came Chevrolet. Tundra was at the bottom under the Nissan Titan.



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When we ought our new truck last year, we looked at the various options. Don't know about the GM cars, but Ford and RAM full size trucks are equal or better to the gas mileage of the Tacoma and you get a roomier truck. Looking at quality and convenience, the RAM was up there with the best of them and many times rated tops. Toyota is going to have to address modernization to include mileage in my estimation.


No one beats Toyota for reliability. As far as gas mileage goes whats posted on a window or reported in a magazine does not mean that's what you will get.

From Last months Consumer Reports


In case you can't read the first one, full size Trucks


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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 04:12 PM


My first two Toyotas were the Hilux---tough as nails. Had the first one 9 years and 176,000 miles, the second 13 years and 225,000 miles. Beat em both up pretty good between work and Baja.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 04:13 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chippy  
I believe it! The only truck you see more of down here on the mainland than the Taco is the Toyota Hilux. Not sure where they are coming from but they are everywhere.


Lots of fords on the road as well. The Hilux can not be imported to the US because it does not meet safety standards.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 04:16 PM


top rated full size trucks

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/03/best-pickup-...
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 04:19 PM


http://www.businessinsider.com/r-consumer-reports-says-ram-t...
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 07:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The Hilux is the model sold in the rest of the world outside of the U.S. and Canada and Mexico. It is highly desired by die hard Toyota fans, as it is considered a 'true truck'! It also is available as a diesel.

Here is a 2012 comparison Tacoma vs Hilux:
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/10/sibling-rivalry-2012-to...


Nope the Hilux is has and I´m sure will be sold right here in Colima and the rest of mainland Mexico. I´m not sure when they started selling them down here but they are outselling everybody big time.

The only reason I didn´t buy one is they are only 2 wheel drive and no diesels?
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 07:09 PM


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I believe it! The only truck you see more of down here on the mainland than the Taco is the Toyota Hilux. Not sure where they are coming from but they are everywhere.


Lots of fords on the road as well. The Hilux can not be imported to the US because it does not meet safety standards.


There are alot of ford Lobos around but not even close to the numbers of Toyotas (hilux).

The new Ford Ranger is here now with a double cab and a 2.2 diesel. Its a nice looking truck but again no 4x4?
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 07:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chippy  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The Hilux is the model sold in the rest of the world outside of the U.S. and Canada and Mexico. It is highly desired by die hard Toyota fans, as it is considered a 'true truck'! It also is available as a diesel.

Here is a 2012 comparison Tacoma vs Hilux:
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/10/sibling-rivalry-2012-to...


Nope the Hilux is has and I´m sure will be sold right here in Colima and the rest of mainland Mexico. I´m not sure when they started selling them down here but they are outselling everybody big time.

The only reason I didn´t buy one is they are only 2 wheel drive and no diesels?


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As of 2014, the Toyota Hilux is available worldwide, except Japan, United States, Canada, North Korea, and South Korea.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 07:30 PM


Now I see why there are so many of them. They are cheap!
http://www.toyota.com.mx/

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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 07:42 PM


double cab 300,000...not bad. 2.7l 4 banger, 5 spd, sparse cabin, 2 wd
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 08:06 PM


I purchased a new 2014 Tacoma earlier this year. Single cab, 4 cyl, 4WD automatic. Made a 3000 mile trip into Baja when it was new, worked great.

I have had great success with 2 Corolla's, 2 Camry's and 2 Highlanders. My 2007 Highlander 2WD 4 cyl still looks and runs great with 235,000 miles. Only repair was a new transmission at 188,000 miles.

Regarding the 2014 Tacoma - my mileage is 19MPG. I would not buy a single cab again as I like to carry more than it allows. Handles well and has lots of head room, very comfortable.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 08:11 PM


Yes, everyone has their favorites. until something better comes along.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 08:21 PM


DianaT, When it comes to ford trucks, They are in class of there own!
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[*] posted on 12-4-2014 at 08:25 PM


Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Lets be fair here. The 2015 Consumers Report Buyers guide page 156 lists the Ram 1500 diesel top rated and Gas Ram 1500 second... then came Chevrolet. Tundra was at the bottom under the Nissan Titan.



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When we ought our new truck last year, we looked at the various options. Don't know about the GM cars, but Ford and RAM full size trucks are equal or better to the gas mileage of the Tacoma and you get a roomier truck. Looking at quality and convenience, the RAM was up there with the best of them and many times rated tops. Toyota is going to have to address modernization to include mileage in my estimation.


No one beats Toyota for reliability. As far as gas mileage goes whats posted on a window or reported in a magazine does not mean that's what you will get.

From Last months Consumer Reports


In case you can't read the first one, full size Trucks


Small/midsize trucks


On that same page look at the predicted Reliability. Ram Diesel NA meaning it's new, Ram gas less than good, Chevy and GMC worst. Tundra better than good and Tacoma good. Cost per mile Tundra and Tacoma much better with Tacoma the best, probably due to reliabilty.
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