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[*] posted on 12-5-2014 at 12:52 PM
Starting in October..PEMEX will add ethanol to Magna



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[*] posted on 12-5-2014 at 12:58 PM


What good news! Tortilla prices will soar!



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[*] posted on 12-5-2014 at 11:53 PM


and fuel mileage will plummet and Pemex will make even more money!
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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 03:55 AM


Well, maybe not PLUMMET....



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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 04:36 AM


Outboards and small engines will begin to have fuel issues.
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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 09:38 AM


well that will kill the use of mogas for piston planes. Those with the STC mod to allow it and can use 80 octane [low compression engines] have for years bought cheap Pemex in out of the way places. Now with prohibited alcohol added they have to stop. The alcohol ruins fuel system components like lines, seals, tanks and O-rings. Some one may not get the memo and likely have an engine failure with all that portends.



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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 09:49 AM


I think according to the article, that it will only be magna, for now.

Premium will still be good for airplanes and boats. I use premium in my boat already anyway.
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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 05:39 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
Well, maybe not PLUMMET....


I see about 15%-20% better mileage on Non corn fuel. Only thing it is good for is farm subsidies and oil company bottom lines.
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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 05:41 PM


Hola,

i recall a few years ago that ethanol was problematic in small boats. i believe it did something to the gas tanks by creating a muck in the tank ?

sorry, but i don't remember exactly what the problem was/is.

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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 05:49 PM


Everyone down here drives old cars and buy Magna Sin (Verde).
What effect will this have on the majority of cars?




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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 05:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Mulegena  
Everyone down here drives old cars and buy Magna Sin (Verde).
What effect will this have on the majority of cars?


none
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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 06:54 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
What good news! Tortilla prices will soar!
Why?


Because corn is human and animal food. It doesn't belong in gasoline! Less corn available means higher prices for food use.




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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 07:01 PM


My Spanish isn't that good--

did the article say only a few refineries will add ethanol?

Does anyone know which refinery supplies BCS?

Ethanol production requires a big capital investment--I'm surprised Mexico has any ethanol production.

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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 08:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
What good news! Tortilla prices will soar!
Why?


Because corn is human and animal food. It doesn't belong in gasoline! Less corn available means higher prices for food use.
Corn? Did you bother to read the article? :rolleyes:


for others who did not other to read... Mexico is specifically calling for sugarcane and grain sorghum. Interesting article.

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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 08:06 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Mulegena  
Everyone down here drives old cars and buy Magna Sin (Verde).
What effect will this have on the majority of cars?


It will disolve/ degrade all rubber parts in contact with the fuel and turn it to black jelly.

welcome to the EPA mexico,:mad:

does ADM have anything to do with this , didn't they screwed up corn tortillas?
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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 08:06 PM


Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
What good news! Tortilla prices will soar!
Why?


Because corn is human and animal food. It doesn't belong in gasoline! Less corn available means higher prices for food use.
Corn? Did you bother to read the article? :rolleyes:


for others who did not other to read... Mexico is specifically calling for sugarcane and grain sorghum. Interesting article.



Both food products.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorghum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugarcane




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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 08:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by KaceyJ  
Quote: Originally posted by Mulegena  
Everyone down here drives old cars and buy Magna Sin (Verde).
What effect will this have on the majority of cars?


It will disolve/ degrade all rubber parts in contact with the fuel and turn it to black jelly.

welcome to the EPA mexico,:mad:

does ADM have anything to do with this , didn't they screwed up corn tortillas?


How did all the Cars in the US survive?
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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 08:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by KaceyJ  
Quote: Originally posted by Mulegena  
Everyone down here drives old cars and buy Magna Sin (Verde).
What effect will this have on the majority of cars?


It will disolve/ degrade all rubber parts in contact with the fuel and turn it to black jelly.

welcome to the EPA mexico,:mad:

does ADM have anything to do with this , didn't they screwed up corn tortillas?


How did all the Cars in the US survive?


They didn't ,

just about any car on the road , made without ethanol resistant materials will have fuel system problems. Especially anything with a carburetor which means most of mexico.

We just had the fuel filter on a Honda outboard changed , it was full of disolved fuel line
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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 08:39 PM


Quote: Originally posted by KaceyJ  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by KaceyJ  
Quote: Originally posted by Mulegena  
Everyone down here drives old cars and buy Magna Sin (Verde).
What effect will this have on the majority of cars?


It will disolve/ degrade all rubber parts in contact with the fuel and turn it to black jelly.

welcome to the EPA mexico,:mad:

does ADM have anything to do with this , didn't they screwed up corn tortillas?


How did all the Cars in the US survive?


They didn't ,

just about any car on the road , made without ethanol resistant materials will have fuel system problems. Especially anything with a carburetor which means most of mexico.

We just had the fuel filter on a Honda outboard changed , it was full of disolved fuel line


We were talking about cars I thought?

Cars have been using up to 10% ethanol without any damage for a long time. Some testing has shown that 15% ethanol can damage valves and valve seats.
Any percentage of ethanol can hold water in the blend causing problems if not properly cared for in handling and storage.

Some people feel that ethanol damages small engines but I have not seen any tests confirming this...and there are a lot of lawn mowers in SOCAL.

Use Premium if you are worried about it. That is what I do in my boat motor anyway.

on edit...all cars manufactured before 2001 did not use ethanol resistaNT materials..

[Edited on 12-7-2014 by rts551]
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[*] posted on 12-6-2014 at 09:11 PM


For those that didn't read the article.

Calm down!

The ethanol content in Magna will be 5.8%, less than is added to US gasoline.

AND, this is the important part,

It is only being added at six distribution terminals located in the states of San Luis Potosi, Tamaulipas and Veracruz.

I believe that those states are located on the Caribbean side of the country.

Ethanol is probably not coming to Baja.

[Edited on 12-7-2014 by RnR]
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