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San Felipe beaches closed due to Marine life die off?
http://www.lacronica.com/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/15012...
Any first hand accounts?
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The Navy through the Naval Sector of San Felipe and the Attorney General for Environmental Protection in Baja California, in coordination with the
Municipal Delegation, issued the following statement in order to inform the public on precautionary measures due to event waterfowl mortality that has
occurred within an area that starts from the south jetty to the fractionation La Hacienda.
Therefore, units of the Mexican Navy, PROFEPA, SENASICA, CONAPESCA, ISESALUD, Research Institute for Veterinary Science and Municipal Delegation of
San Felipe, coordinated actions performed to determine the probable causes of this mortality.
In a meeting held on January 13, 2015, the worktable on the recommendation of the Institute of Public Health Services, decided to issue a
precautionary closure at the Maritime Terrestrial Zone, which covers an area of about 10 kilometers, in order to prevent some risk to the health of
the population. Additional information about the actions that have been made so far.
Therefore, the population is requested in general, not be introduced in this beach area, and if it detects dead animals on the beach not touch them
and give notice to the Municipal Delegation for collection.
Tour of inspection and surveillance (customer event)
- Collection of dead birds on the beach and willingness mentioned in septic tank in the municipal landfill of the Delegation.
- Sampling on dead animals for their analysis.
- Sampling of seawater.
- The results will be waiting to determine the actions coming.
alert
- Land Area Maritime precautionary closure covers an area of 10 kilometers.
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So it is a request to stay away from the dead sea life or beaches with lot's of dead sea life. Shouldn't be a huge issue now, water is too freaking
cold for swimming anyway!
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Well so much for first hand accounts. I should have figured. I believe they are concerned about what is toxic enough to cause the massive kill off
of so many different birds.
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We drove the beach from the marina to Percebu after New Years and saw more dead marine life than I've seen in many other trips. Enough it was a topic
of discussion on our radios for awhile.
Ron
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In May, 2013 there were more dead porpoise on the beach than I had seen before... I wrote about it in my trip report, but I think there were 6 on the
4 mile long island/ beach... Dead whales and porpoise have washed up on the beach many times over the 35+ years I have camped on Shell Island, just
not more than 1 or 2 usually.
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According to a Mexican forum, there is speculation that there was a mining chemical spill and associated cover-up. Apparently there are much more
than just birds dieing to include some land animals as well.
Wondering if any SF locals could confirm this.
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Wonder if it has to do with C. Slim's gold mine to the north of town? If it does, good luck on getting it cleaned up any time soon. Also, I hope
whatever it is doesn't have too much impact on local seafood harvesting for the S.F. restaurants; ain't like they're flying in 'today's catch'. Bad
Ju-Ju for sure.
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Terrible sht and it happens all over the planet, this was a yr 2000 post
Minera San Felipe
While the method to extract gold in mines based on the use of cyanide has been banned in many countries, Minera San Felipe, the mine north of town,
uses this dangerous substance to separate gold from low grade ore and then treat the waste using a process that can potentially pollute groundwater
and the sea of Cortez. Given the far from stellar track record of the gold cyanidation process around the world, it would seem there is no 'if' in the
prognostication of its effects but rather just a matter of 'when'.
What is the reason cyanidation is being used at the San Felipe Mine, rather than an environmentally safe, more efficient and cost equivalent process
like the Haber Gold Process? Likely the cost of retooling for a different method of gold extraction was weighed against the initial loss of profit
and/or Federal fines in the event of a spill. The risk of laying the local shrimp and fishing industry on a slab with scuppers is apparently a small
price to pay in exchange for the extra paychecks that leach through the town's green grocers and beer stores.
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well, the water on the Pac side is +/- 6-8 degrees WARMER than it has ever been this time of year. could it be a massive red tide in the making in the
Cortez?
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That came up Woody. Apparently this is a much deeper color red. Also birds, dolphins, seals, are all affected...I don't believe the red tide
usually causes this kind of die off.
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Woody.....
6-8 degrees warmer than ever before? C'mon main..
By ever you mean, in your lifetime? +\- 50 years
Or since records have been kept ? +\- 150 years
Both amounts of time equivelant to a pinch of sand from a dump truck.. 
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The gold mine is far, far from the gulf... many miles of desert and salt flats separate the two.
There are satellite sea water temperature maps... and winter is notoriously cold in the upper gulf... colder than the Pacific.
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The 'red tide' of SOC is roe from half-beaks and needlefish. True 'red-tide' algae needs 80+ temps, and in January just not possible. The cause will
come out eventually, Mexico's Gov't willing or not. Somebody (MAN) is doing sumpin' somewhere that just ain't kosher.
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Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  | | The 'red tide' of SOC is roe from half-beaks and needlefish. True 'red-tide' algae needs 80+ temps, and in January just not possible. The cause will
come out eventually, Mexico's Gov't willing or not. Somebody (MAN) is doing sumpin' somewhere that just ain't kosher. |
80 degree temps cannot be required to create an algae bloom. They are created in waters around Alaska. I can guarantee these waters do not reach 80
degrees.
http://seagrant.uaf.edu/nosb/papers/2001/Skyview-redtide.htm...
Ron San Felipe Oct, Nov. Feb. Mar. April. remainder in Juneau Ak
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AKShadow, wonderful article, great rebuttal. Point is, has any been reported in the area? This isn't a system that kills and then shows up later.
My point is, word is out in the global community and hopefully we'll find out exactly what it is. I've seen the 'blooms' of roe and their similar
luminescent displays, and folks calling it 'red tide', especially this time of year. I'm most concerned in the number of habitat, homo sapiens as
well as all marine life, who rely on that fishery in close proximity to the die-off. Time will tell, and hopefully the shorter the better.
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Two reports that do not agree
1 13 report sanfelipe com mx category news
Dead birds on the beaches an ominous sign of gill net fishing
by Tony January 13 2015 11 am
I have had a number of emails from people wondering about the number of dead sea birds washing up on the beaches around San Felipe. This has been a
problem in previous years and it is becoming a big problem again. Most of the deaths are caused by the birds diving to steal the fish caught in the
gill nets that are used by fishermen in the northern Gulf. The birds get caught in the nets and drown. They are discarded by the fishermen and the
bodies wash up on the shore driven by the prevailing easterly winds.
The birds, many of which will be the blue-footed Boobies, are not endangered but the major kills are a very bad sign for San Felipe. Gill net fishing
has been prohibited for some time but it is still widely used and is causing havoc with other species.
Gill nets are being used to illegally catch the giant Totoaba or totuava sometimes euphemistically referred to as white sea bass in restaurants whose
swim bladder may be worth 10,000 dollars on the Chinese market. Other fish trapped in the nets are almost considered bycatch. Penalties for catching
totoaba are very severe because of their endangered status and the result is that reporting the inadvertent catch of such a fish is not possible.
It is believed that many gill nets are now being used in the prohibited zone set aside to protect the critically endangered Vaquita porpoise. Less
than 25 breeding females of this species are thought to exist and the northern Gulf of California is their only known habitat.
Post from something called PBBB 1 19 no link found
Port in Northwest Mexico Closed Because of Red Tide
MEXICO CITY The port in San Felipe a town in the northwestern Mexican state of Baja California, has been closed to fishing due to the deaths of
numerous animals from red tide the Profepa environmental protection agency said.
More than 550 birds and four sea lions have died in recent days in the waters around the port from red tide, lab tests conducted by Baja California
health officials found.
The red tide outbreak may have been caused by pollution, high temperatures, a drop in salinity and low tide action, the Profepa said in a statement.
Fishing, the sale of fish products and consumption of seafood from the area around the port of San Felipe have been temporarily prohibited, Baja
California health officials said.
Three dolphins died in the waters around the town and tests were conducted on tissue samples taken from birds and mollusks, the Profepa said.
The tissue and organ samples tested positive for the neurotoxin produced by the algae that cause red tide, officials said
[Edited on 1-19-2015 by PaulW]
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like I said, red tide! all you'se conspiracy theorists!
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They are out to get ya, Woody 
Don't believe everything you think....
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WOLVERINES! oh wait, that was Red Dawn, nevermind........
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