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Hook
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Actually, the title of the OP is completely misleading, IMO. If you read the article, it's purely speculative about Texaco..........and all the other
companies.
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SFandH
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Who knows? Maybe someday soon the folks in TJ will be playing "what station has the cheapest gas" game and pumping their own gas when they find it.
You know how slow that will be while the whole country figures out how to start and use the pumps? I know it's not hard but neither are ATMs, which
seem to befuddle many Mexican folks, at least the ones in front of me.
I like the PEMEX stations but Mex gas is pricey these days.
[Edited on 6-8-2015 by SFandH]
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Hook
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You LIKE crooked pumps and doctored gasoline ??!!! 
[Edited on 6-8-2015 by Hook]
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SFandH
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That's going to change because the sign says Texaco?
You can trust your car to the man who wears the star.............
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That is the norm, right?
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I won't believe outside oil companies will be competing with PEMEX until I see it. Service stations may vary, but the supplier will remain the same.
Then....they'll give the illusion of competition.
It's all showbiz.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Lots of Texaco still in Texas....saw a few on drive to Oregon last week too.
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Hook
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It's a high percentage, with respect to the crooked pumps.
I saw a article only a couple years ago that claimed that as much as 10% of all Pemex fuel has been doctored by black market enterprises. Mostly it
was legitimate Pemex drivers taking their full load to a clandestine location and draining off part of it and replacing it with something less
volatile and less expensive. So, that percentage is not that high.
There are definitely crooked pumps in our area.
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Quote: Originally posted by Hook  |
It's a high percentage, with respect to the crooked pumps.
I saw a article only a couple years ago that claimed that as much as 10% of all Pemex fuel has been doctored by black market enterprises. Mostly it
was legitimate Pemex drivers taking their full load to a clandestine location and draining off part of it and replacing it with something less
volatile and less expensive. So, that percentage is not that high.
There are definitely crooked pumps in our area. |
Reminiscent of food produced in China, where they add off-spec stuff to food to make a fast buck, and sometimes the people that eat the food die from
the creative capitalism,...
The human propensity for fraud and deceit is boundless, you can trust very few people, and a strong nanny state is required to police our industry and
commercial products to prevent fraud such as is rampant in Mexico gasoline,...
Fraud is large and small, it happens in mega corporations, and the mom/pop corner gas stations
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Back to the Future
As noted, both Shell and Mobil were in Baja back in the 50s and into the 60s.
I remember well the Shell station in San Felipe.
And I have 8mm video from '57 showing same.
Having once mentioned to a [disbelieving] Baja friend that the two were common back then, we happened later to be traveling through La Puerta on on
the way to SF and I pointed out both the old Mobil and Shell stations along the highway where the signage still existed.
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David K
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El Rosario Gas Pumps by Howard Gulick
In 1956, Baja Cactus Pemex in El Rosario was a Standard Oil (Chevron now) station...
In a 1960 photo, Mama Espinoza's was a Union Oil (76) station...
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
I won't believe outside oil companies will be competing with PEMEX until I see it. Service stations may vary, but the supplier will remain the same.
Then....they'll give the illusion of competition.
It's all showbiz. |
It is a survival move by Mexico, because they are running low on their currently available reserves, and need the outside expertise and equipment in
order to tap their huge underwater reserves.
As for those talking about the crooked pumps in Mexico, fact is that most Pemex stations are franchised. And Pemex actually does shut off supplies to
the crooked dealers, albeit usually for a short time. In fact, the most common reason that may encounter a Pemx station that is out of gas, is because
Pemex reacted to their cheating.
That said, if and when the internationals come in, they will almost most certainly be involved with franchisees, probably former Pemex franchisees.
And so it goes -Billy Pilgrim.
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Tecate...
Fuel theft costs Pemex $1.29 bn
Mexico City, May 18 (EFE).- State-owned oil giant Petroleos Mexicanos, or Pemex, lost more than 19 billion pesos ($1.2 billion) last year due to
gasoline theft and the tapping of pipelines, a crime that has grown over the past 15 years, the Mexico City daily El Universal reported Monday.
A total of 11,872 illegal taps were discovered between 2000 and 2014, with the number of cases rising from 132 in 2001 to 3,348 in 2014, the newsaper
said, citing figures provided by the energy company in response to a request filed under Mexico's freedom of information law.
Theft of fuel from Pemex pipelines, known in Mexico as "milking," has grown because of rising demand for fuel on the black market, where it sells for
between five pesos and eight pesos ($0.30 and $0.50), or about half the official price.
Losses from fuel theft totaled 19.41 billion pesos ($1.29 billion) last year, Pemex Refinacion deputy director of distribution Francisco Fernandez
Lagos said.
An analysis done by the newspaper found that the 10 cities with the highest number of cases of fuel theft are Altamira and Reynosa, in the
northeastern state of Tamaulipas; Culiacan, Mocorito and Salvador Alvarado, in the northwestern state of Sinaloa; Huimanguillo, in the southeastern
state of Tabasco; Juan Rodriguez Clara and Tierra Blanca, in the eastern state of Veracruz; Zapotlanejo, in the western state of Jalisco; and Tecate,
in the northwestern state of Baja California.
Thirty-six other cities in 13 different states accounted for 50 percent of the fuel theft cases.
Pemex employees, drug traffickers and business owners are among those involved in the illegal activity, which has grown because of inaction by the
company's union and management's failure to crack down on those stealing fuel, security consultatnt Raul Benitez Manaut said.
In the city of Altamira alone, the number of cases surged from one in 2000 to 226 by 2013 and 309 last year.
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Love the old photo's David --got any more???
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Goat wrote: "a strong nanny state is required to police our industry and commercial products" 
That's an impossible dream in Mexico.
Bob Durrell
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David K
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Me too... looking into a time machine is what they are! To see more, you will find the links on my web site home page: http://vivabaja.com/
One (from where the El Rosarion ones came):
BAJA CALIFORNIA, 1950-1967: Photographs by Howard E. Gulick
direct link: http://libraries.ucsd.edu/speccoll/baja/gulick/index.html
Another: The Choral Pepper Collection
direct link: http://www.choralpepper.com/
Another: The Harry Crosby Collection
direct link: https://www.sandiegohistory.org/journal/77winter/bajaimages....
Much much more of the Howard Gulick collection, 100 pages (click on image to enlarge, and zoom in more with mouse roller or press +):
http://library.ucsd.edu/dc/search?f%5Bsubject_topic_sim%5D%5...
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