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| Osprey 
 
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 A couple of days ago my neighbors, who run nets up and down our beaches here in pangas, were busted on the beach by a Pesca squad and our local FONMAR
guy. They took away the boats and equipment and our guy told me they were in serious trouble for netting activities. Since they have operated here for
ages with some La Paz permits I supposed it was a problem with the shark season.
 
 A week ago in Cabo the charter fleet ran into a GIANT school of tuna, they all converged on it only to be muscled out by the big super seiners who
gathered em all up and split.
 
 Now today I see in the Gringo Gazette a very small article that says ALL COMMERCIAL NETTING INCLUDING PANGAS IN THE SOC HAS BEEN SUSPENDED FOR TWO
YEARS BECAUSE THE VAQUITA ARE DOWN TO LESS THAN 100 ANIMALS.
 
 Maybe that’s why my neighbors were busted, and that’s why the big tuna boats were so aggressive outside the SOC.  I think it’s great news but I fear
the netting on the Pacific might pick up drastically, that they may really go nuts with the yellowtail and the tuna pens/sardines thing since they
can’t operate over on this side any more.
 
 Cabo people might begin to see blockades of seiners at the mouth of the Sea of Cortez rounding up all pelagic fish that go in or out and change things
drastically for a lot of sportsmen and charter people.
 
 The timing is not quite right or I could blame the new crackdown on the Dorado Shootout tourney right here in East Cape -- the winner owns a popular
fishing lure company and maybe the picture of him holding the biggest (12.9 pound) dorado went viral and got some appropriate attention and  action.
 
 
 
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 I really hope this is good news for the Vaquita.
 
 I heard the government was going to take action, but I'm still impressed that the government is doing something.
 
 However, my understanding is that the Vaquita lives in the upper portion of the Sea of Cortez, by Puerto Penasco and San Felipe.  If that is correct,
and the Vaquita does not go down to BCS, maybe it doesn't make much sense to ban net fishing in BCS?
 
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 'Bout time for a little enforcement in the SOC.  There was a documentary on NOVA a few nights back about the fishing wars in the Indonesia area (east
and west) and we're talking AK-47's, RPG's, floating armory vessels loaded with all kinds of weapons for sale AND merc's for hire, and wanton
executions of small-time fishermen by bigger-time armed boats..... the SOC definitely has problems, but man, be glad it isn't as bad.
 
 I guess there is something to be said for a (somewhat) un-armed nation.
 
 
 
 
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| Russ 
 
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 Don't get your hopes up to high. We've seen these actions before and they may last a week but have always fizzled out quickly. Believe me I really
want to be hopeful. I've just been disappointed soooo many time I feel helpless.
 God bless our waters and those that protect it.
 
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 A 12.9lb. dorado wins the tournament?
 
 
 
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 the picture of him holding the biggest (12.9 pound) dorado went viral and got some appropriate attention and  action.
 
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| BAJA.DESERT.RAT 
 
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 Hola Osprey,
 
 WOW ! thank you for the great news. hopefully, they'll keep following up and get rid of all the nets.
 
 Next, the hookah bas**ds and then the big seiners.
 
 yes, i know...WISHFUL THINKING. it's a start.
 
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 Good to hear.  The Vaquita are only the canary in the coal mine.  Let's hope some of this sticks.
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| Osprey 
 
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 The Vaquita were doomed by mama nature. They eat where they live and it happens to be at the very end of a big wet net. That mama didn't see us coming
so she didn't bother to build adaptability into some of her creatures.
 
 Same with lots of sea birds in the northern gulf. They used to count the birds and nests on the islands, now they simply count the anchovetas, the
food they need to live. People wanted, needed the same food the animals ate, the animals can't or won't switch to other food or travel to find more
--- end of story.
 
 It's happening all over and we are hard pressed to compete with animal wiring; we just can't teach brown boobies to eat Triscuits.
 
 
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| monoloco 
 
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 Those tuna seiners will go wherever there are fish. Two years ago I watched a fleet of 6 of them work for two days, using spotting helicopters,
completely decimate a school of tuna right out in front of our place on the Pacific coast. When they finally left, all those boats were riding low to
the gunnels and no one has caught a tuna in this neighborhood since.
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by Osprey  |  | The Vaquita were doomed by mama nature. They eat where they live and it happens to be at the very end of a big wet net. That mama didn't see us coming
so she didn't bother to build adaptability into some of her creatures. 
 Same with lots of sea birds in the northern gulf. They used to count the birds and nests on the islands, now they simply count the anchovetas, the
food they need to live. People wanted, needed the same food the animals ate, the animals can't or won't switch to other food or travel to find more
--- end of story.
 
 It's happening all over and we are hard pressed to compete with animal wiring; we just can't teach brown boobies to eat Triscuits.
 
 
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 Or...they are doomed by Mama Man damming up the Colorado river and the commercial trawlers tearing up the Cortez.  If you mean the "nature" of
man...sure.
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 The unbalanced approach to harvesting will definitely doom the ecosystem.
 
 Several years ago 5 pangos went out to catch sierra in Coyote Bay. They brought back two unmanned pangas loaded with them. I haven't seen a sierra in
Coyote Bay for years now. Poof! They're gone.
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| Osprey 
 
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 Redhill, when it's man against the animals, usually the animals are the losers. The "nature of man" in your post makes mankind sound evil. I'm not
evil. You're probably not evil. There, that's two of us already. There might be even more.
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| redhilltown 
 
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 Well thank you for thinking I am "probably" not evil!!!!!  I think even an animal could have chosen his/her words a tad better...
 
 But I get it.  Though I don't agree. Man can do stupid and selfish crap and often it comes back to bite him.  You can THINK man is going to win by
ripping up the Cortez but in the long run, he will self destruct and the animals will rise again...just takes some time.
 
 
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| Osprey 
 
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 That's not really a "Thank you" is it?  Ripping up?  Even an animal could choose words a tad better.
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 what would the skydaddy say about those killing his creations?
 
 "Hear Thee, Hear Thee  .... All in moderation, kiddies" !??
   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=114&v=fsFpm4yAoMQ
 
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| Osprey 
 
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 That's a joke?
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 your 'end of story!'  is the joke amigo.
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| Osprey 
 
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 I'm not your amigo. Who is at the brunt of your senseless joke? There's probably another forum for bad jokes. Try search.
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 Here is the web site to make a complaint about illegal fishing:
 
 http://sidepi.conapesca.gob.mx:8080/CapturaDenuncia.jsp
 
 It easily translates......
 
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