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Whale-ista
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Rebate time! (was: Recommendations for purchasing new set of Baja-ready tires?)
Edit/bump: many rebates & "Black Friday" specials being offered this month at various stores. If you are in the market for new tires, this is a
good time to shop.
Not really an ORV question per se, since most of my Baja driving is on the hwy. But I'm looking ahead to the 2016 whale season, realizing the set of
BFG ATs on my 1/2 ton are getting pretty worn, and I tend to carry a fair amount of weight when heading out to the lagoons. So- shopping time.
I've had no problems with them, after multiple trips last 3 years, and realize it's smarter to replace them sooner vs wait for trouble somewhere away
from home.
So- what's the best deal? Are the new BFG models worthwhile or should I stick with the oldies, assuming they are available?
Is it worth it to do an Online purchase, even w/shipping, and have my neighborhood shop install them? Or just look for best deals at local Discount
Tires etc? (I'm in San Diego)
I have a brand new AT spare on a new wheel (didn't have either when I purchased the truck used in 2013, so they were purchased afterwards) so I
suppose I just need 3 new tires, and could use the best of the current set as a spare. Again, assuming the old style is still available.
Suggestions and recommendations from your experience welcomed.
Thanks!
Edit: just found this helpful review from Aug. 29: http://www.fourwheeler.com/product-reviews/1508-we-test-new-...
[Edited on 11-26-2015 by Whale-ista]
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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bajaguy
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Express Tires
Locations in San Diego, says they provide services in Baja
http://www.expresstire.com/
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Maderita
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Have you read BFG's specs on the new all terrain tire? If they are to be believed, the new tires are significantly improved.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=76133
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Whale-ista
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thanks. didn't see the offroad styles I'm interested in, will give them a call.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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woody with a view
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Discount Tires will match any internet price. find what you want and print out the quote. take it to Discount and tell them to beat the price.
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elgatoloco
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I use Discount Tires. They always give good price and service. Every time I need new tires I call them and they give me a price and I tell them what I
paid for the last and they come down. Every 5000 miles I go in and they rotate and balance. I am on my 5th set of BFG and have never had a sidewall
failure. Recently I had a BIG bolt go thru my tread and it made a hole too big to patch and they replaced it per road hazard warranty. I have been on
a few roads in THE BAJA and drive pretty fast down some of them trying to keep up with my amigos in their Tundras. F-250 7.3 with camper 313,000 miles
and counting.
YMMV. 
MAGA
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Whale-ista
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Thanks Dave and Woody. Appreciate the suggestions.
I've searched the Nomad discussions, and I'm searching online. There's a discount tire nearby, so I will print out the rebates other stores are
offering and see what they can match.
Another question: The new K02 sidewall looks good, but my new spare is the old style. Will it hurt to drive a distance w/different tread design if I
need to put on spare?
And has anyone noticed if the new K02s are noisier vs earlier design?
My current set of BFGs is pretty quiet. Could just be because they have 4 years and 25K on them.
And finally- is 25K of mostly Baja driving a reasonable mileage to expect from these tires? Seems low, and the overall tread isn't bad. But they have
worn unevenly (Baja tends to ruin the alignment) and carried a lot of weight over some rough roads.
Also, I carry a Callen camper, +gear for camping etc. I imagine those factors add more wear and tear/mile.
Thanks again for helping with the learning curve.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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bajaguy
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Depending on a few factors, I rotate my tires every 5,000 miles and get an alignment twice a year. Baja roads are not very friendly
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rts551
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I have 8000 miles on my KO2's. They are significantly quieter than the older model. They are supposed to wear much better than the older model.
Running the spare is no problem as long as it is the same size.
Some say they have seen too many failures over the years...but can not show you where they have seen them. I suspect the real issue is money.
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tripledigitken
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Tire Rack online is a good site for research. Noise and wear ratings are useful tools in making the decision.
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Whale-ista
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Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  | | Depending on a few factors, I rotate my tires every 5,000 miles and get an alignment twice a year. Baja roads are not very friendly
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Agreed. It's a constant challenge with those roads.
I have a lifted truck, and my shocks also get pretty trashed- I replaced them earlier this year.
Last 2 years I went down to the lagoons 3 times (Jan/Feb/March), plus a summer trip to Cabo Pulmo. I've tried to keep up with the wear and tear.
Often I need an alignment after each trip. Then- one deep pothole, early in the trip, and there goes the alignment for the next 1000 miles.
Constant battle...
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Maderita
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If the spare is the same size, you can use it on the rear axle.
If it is a different size, then you can use it on the front (non drive axle). If you get a rear flat tire, that would require putting the spare on the
front and swapping the front tire to the rear.
* (Does not apply to FWD or AWD vehicles)
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Whale-ista
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| Quote: Originally posted by Maderita | If the spare is the same size, you can use it on the rear axle.
If it is a different size, then you can use it on the front (non drive axle). If you get a rear flat tire, that would require putting the spare on the
front and swapping the front tire to the rear.
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thanks. 2wd. same size (possibly different tread design if I go with the newer BFG model)
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | I have 8000 miles on my KO2's. They are significantly quieter than the older model. They are supposed to wear much better than the older model.
Running the spare is no problem as long as it is the same size.
Some say they have seen too many failures over the years...but can not show you where they have seen them. I suspect the real issue is money.
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1) The first personal experience in 2001: Between Desengano and Yubay, brand new BFG All Terrain TA tires on Amo Pescars Ford F-350, sandy road.
2) The last personal experience was in 2014: Mesa de San Carlos, same brand and condition tires on a Ford Raptor.
I was the passenger in both cases and there were numerous others I have seen with sidewall failures in the years between.
I would try the new KOs because BFG knew of the weakness per their press release, made major changes, so kudos to the masters at HQ in France!
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larryC
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I drive a Ford F350 7.3 diesel and have really good luck with the Michelin LT series load range E. Expensive but really wear well. I use slightly
larger than stock at 285/75-R16. No matter what tire you get, use a D or E load range they are stronger than the A and B ratings.
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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DawnPatrol
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| Quote: Originally posted by larryC | | I drive a Ford F350 7.3 diesel and have really good luck with the Michelin LT series load range E. Expensive but really wear well. I use slightly
larger than stock at 285/75-R16. No matter what tire you get, use a D or E load range they are stronger than the A and B ratings.
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I second the Michelins, E load range
not a real aggressive off road tread, but excellent treadwear and very quiet
I have a 2006 F250 Super Duty 4WD diesel
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rts551
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I used the michelins on my F250 and liked them. Not an off-road tire though.
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Tioloco
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Load range D and E are good if vehicle is heavy- Fullsize diesel
If you are driving a lighter vehicle, they are stiff and you sacrifice traction off road. Not a safety hazard, so you make the call.
Load range C has been excellent for me for Jeeps and 1/2 ton pickups.
Maybe a Tacoma with ATRAC and heavily loaded with tent and ice chest will require a higher load rating? Lol
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Trueheart
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Which ever tires you select, go to Discount Tire to buy them. From the owner Bruce Halle to the installer of your new tires, friendly personal
commitment to customer is evident. I've had exceptional service from DT along with lowest prices for many sets of tires over a long period of time.
And for an interesting read, try the book "6 Tires, No Plan". Bruce Halle, quite an American success story and a really nice guy to boot!
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David K
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Got my Dynapro tires at Discount... local store, very friendly staff. Ask if they will give you the Discount Direct price (their on-line mail-order
store).
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