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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 07:30 PM


just want to let everyone know that i am back. even though i lost everything, i still have a life and i must move on. the only thing, and i say it again, that won't ever change in my life, is my quest for justice in mexico. i haven't had a chance to read the good, the bad, and the ugly, yet! but, i will. and, i will post again. i will only be answering human beings. over & out. Thaddeus
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 07:47 PM
Confirmation from a reliable source


Sorry, but I just got word via email from a very reliable source who claims to have seen the deportation order on the guy and knows of someone else that this has happened to. Excerpts from Source follow

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I have, however, seen his deportation order, which does not say anything about any outstanding warrants, and he was not subjected to the usual deportation procedure. In fact, getting picked up by the Mexican police on outstanding warrants is extremely unusual.

Getting cooperation from Mexican authorites to pick up Americans on outstanding warrants is very difficult and unusual. That would be an extradition, not a deportation, which is what supposedly occurred. Also, these so-called "cops" did not have any ID, even the Ecos article says that. Even if Zebrowski did have warrants in the US, that does not explain why they have seized his house and stolen all of his possessions. Also, they say they were bounty hunting. Note that bounty hunting in Mexico is illegal, look at the Dog Davis case, so how could legitimate police have been doing this?

Probably what is going on here is that rouge(sic) commando units affiliated with the police are committing crimes. The newsmagazine Zeta reported about the presence of these commando units.

[Another person]told me that the same thing happened to him.

His story was the same as Zebrowski's, that armed commandos without ID invaded his house saying they were police.

The police chief that is quoted in the Ecos article has been fired. The newsmagazine Zeta raised the question: why? There are only 2 possibilities: either he was corrupt or he was not corrupt enough. These official explanations that they give to the press cannot be relied on. Pompa is trying to say that he would not allow TJ police to operate in Rosarito, except that he obviously did allow it, three separate times. If Rosartio police were present at the scene, either they were "escorting the TJ guy out of town" or they were accomplices. Even Pompa said that the operation had to be approved by higher ups, no matter what he says, it obviously was indeed approved by higher ups. So, either he was complicit, or he got strong-armed. Remember that Mr. Javier Arellano Felix himself was living in Rosarito and was proabably responsible fo the beheadings of the three Rosarito cops last year.

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Now, I didn't read in the Eco article that the supposed TJ cops didn't have ID, but......




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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 07:48 PM


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No one has been outed yet.
One address is a dial up connection and the other is a cable dsl connection.
So I would assume they are not one and the same person.

If you want to remain annon do not post on the internet .
Your I.P is easily obtained and traced.



You're assumption is right, Hose.

I'm not a millionaire, but I do live comfortably in a very popular part of San Diego, in a community called Pacific Beach. I'm fortunate enough and lucky enough to be in very good health, living only 2 blocks from both the Pacific Ocean and a killer-diller boardwalk where lots of people run, ride bicycles, jog and stroll. I really do count my blessings, even when it comes to the small stuff like Internet cable connections and things that some people take for granted.

In talking to Ted on the phone, I have learned that in the 2 months since the Mexican police took everything he had and raped his daughter, his diet has consisted of alot of donuts and coffee. And that's not good! Ted used to have a thing for lifting weights, as I do now, so his health and state of physical being must be very important to him.

I feel for Ted because he's in his 50's or 60's...so I feel for the guy. I don't think he lives as comfortable as I do as he is staying in a motel in Spring Valley which is way out in the suburbs, east of downtown San Diego.

I just spoke to Ted a few moments ago (12-21-2006) on the phone. He just got back from having been out all day. I told him that this thread was 11 pages long, and almost at 7000 views. Pretty impressive for a guy who never really posted in a discussion forum before.

He was wondering what in the hell everyone could be talking about as he's been busy and hasn't had time to post. He went on to say that he may have indeed posted something in the last 2 days, but he can't really remember for sure as he's been busy. He may have, and he might not have. He just can't remember. When I talked to him he was pretty fatigued. Remember this is a guy who went from living in a real big house to living in a motel. He said he might check the thread out if he's not too tired and he has the time.

The robbery of all of his possessions and the rape of his daughter happened only 2 months ago, so his body and mind is certainly still feeling the effects of having to deal with that type of trauma. That's a good enough explanation for me. And if anyone else doesn't like it, tell it to someone who cares, because I don't. Ted's first obligation in life is to try and climb up out of the hole he's in.

As Ted mentioned to me the other night, what he went through--losing all of his lifes possessions and his daughter being raped--is something that might've made other men put a shotgun to their head and pull the trigger. When he told me that, I was a little jolted. But he's right. Ted's in his 50's or 60's, he's lost it all, and his daughter was raped. That would do alot of men in.

He also said that he feels a little responsible for his daughters rape, and it weighs on his soul. I've only known Ted for about 4 or 5 days, and I don't know the full scope of what he went through, meaning that I don't walk in his shoes, so I can't say, nor will I say that he is in any way responsible for her rape. Maybe he is a little responsible for it, maybe he's not.

He also said that no one has called him on the phone. I told him the reason for that is because alot of men in discussion forums are wimps and forum hoars that would rather sit and post 20 or 30 posts a day, 365 days a year. Then again, there are alot of Internet tough guys who wilt at the idea of talking to someone who just suffered a fantastic amount of damage to their soul. They prefer to keep the subject matter light and if something melancholy comes up they immediately reach for the remote control to turn up the volume on the television.

Then there are other people that just wouldn't know what to say. Some of those types, the tongue-tied, are more comfortable having virtual conversations than they are with having a real one. Especially a real conversation in real life with a man that has hit rock bottom. I don't belittle those people, they are only human.

As for me, I'm still surprised that no one has had the guts or the sympathy or the benevolent spirit or the whatever you want to call it to pick up the phone and call Ted and offer their moral suppport.

Or conversely, to tell him that he's scamming everyone here, a real charlatan who' s a complete idiot and who's obviously smoking crack. In other words, the skeptics who talk alot of trash in a forum but don't have the balls to call Ted and tell him he's full of crap.

You have a big man on this site, a shotcaller named Doug. He's affiliated with this sight in some form or fashion. I don't know what he does, but he is an authoritative figurehead. At the urging of some cowardly forum members that were, and still are, too scared to call Ted, they took Doug to task by insisting that he give Ted a call. I quizzed Ted about that phone conversation, and he told me that at first Doug was cold, icy and skeptical. But once Ted got around to telling his side of the story, Doug began to thaw out. Perhaps Doug is now a believer.

By the way, perhaps not all of the people who urged Doug to call Ted are cowards. Bruce R. Leech posted many pages ago that he couldn't afford to call Ted and pay for a phone call to the United States. I guess business must be bad for Mr. Leech and "Mulege Baja."


Anyway Hose, you are right on the money with your opinion, Ted and I are not the same person. That bears repeating: "You are right on the money with your opinion, Ted and I are not the same person." And I thank you for submitting that opinion here in a public forum. You're a moderator, so if anyone knows, you should.

:spingrin: Time for some good old fashioned egg nog! :yes:



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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 07:51 PM


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10 pages....sheesh. So.....What is it that attracts people to reading about misfortune?...like a moth to a flame? We have met the enemy...and he is us.


I have been following this thread closely. I'm embarrassed to even guess how many of the 7000+ hits might be mine. I haven't posted anything because I still can't figure out where Ted is coming from, and I really have nothing to contribute. And this is the reason for my interest. I know that I don't enjoy the suffering of others, and I don't think many of us here do, but I do like cheap thrills, and the cost of a good book is always going higher.

I am fascinated by the many possibilities here. Is it all true? Is poor Ted a truly innocent victim of Mexican law enforcement? Or is he a disgruntled visitor with Mexican law enforcement as the victim here? Or does he just love Baja and want it all to himself, and so is trying to frighten prospective tourists? And who IS Sackmaster?? Is he Ted, or Ted's best friend or business partner? Or is he really just a nice guy who has stepped in to help poor Ted out? Will we be able to rent the video, or will the saga make it to the BIG screen? And who will direct Ted's screenplay? Gus Van Zant would have a picnic with it but it would be a very different movie from The Coen Brothers. Martin Scorsese might do it nicely, and perhaps it could resurrect Michae Cimino's career.

So, Summanus, I guess I can only surmise that we read it ....

BECAUSE IT IS THERE!!!!!:biggrin:




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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 07:54 PM


Sackmeister ----

Arn't you being repeatedly redundant?
Seems we've seen this before.
What do you think, Hose?
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 07:56 PM


I like the two references to killer-diller boardwalks:lol:



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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 08:03 PM


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Sackmeister ----

Arn't you being repeatedly redundant?
Seems we've seen this before.
What do you think, Hose?


Yeah and it's 5 pages 100 replies 1000 views and 10 6-packs later and you're still tripping on the "Ted and Sackmaster are one and the same guy theory." A fool like you needs to read what Hose said. Again and again and again. You don't like Hose's statement because it makes you look like a complete fool. You're a perfect example of why it's a waste of life to spend hours at a time in a discussion forum. Or any amount of time, for that matter. You need help bro, and I'm being kind.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 08:10 PM


Calm down boys. Everythings allright.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 08:21 PM


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Sackmeister ----

Arn't you being repeatedly redundant?
Seems we've seen this before.
What do you think, Hose?


Before I hit the egg nog...I inquired at length as to the specifics of the conversation Ted had with Doug. From the way Ted described the conversation, Doug did a very good job in describing the type of people that are in discussion forums. A very good job. The good, the bad, the helpful, the absurd. People just like you, Dennis. Though you weren't around to here the anecdotes Ted relayed to me, Doug's description of Internet forum oddballs fits you to a "T," in my humble opinion.

Note to Doug: "I agree!"
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 08:21 PM


That must be the killer-diller board walk
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 08:26 PM


Hey sackmeister ---
Dont try to demonize me. It's off the point........ being, what do you want? Are you here for any other reason other than to get people to make a phone call?
What is it?
Why wont you answer that?
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Before I hit the egg nog...I inquired at length as to the specifics of the conversation Ted had with Doug. From the way Ted described the conversation, Doug did a very good job in describing the type of people that are in discussion forums. A very good job. The good, the bad, the helpful, the absurd. People just like you, Dennis. Though you weren't around to here the anecdotes Ted relayed to me, Doug's description of Internet forum oddballs fits you to a "T," in my humble opinion.

Note to Doug: "I agree!"


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http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/index.htm




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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 08:57 PM


i'm impressed. finally the truth is surfacing, as it always will. villadelfin is amost there. the collusion in the actions taken by the police is existing mainly on subterfuge. and subterfuge is like building a house on sand. oh!
what tangled webs they weave. there will be many to pay the piper this time. this investigation is finally bearing fruit; thanks to all the remarks in this thread. and sackmaster stands at the right hand of justice. and, please be advised that sackmaster is not me. he's an outstanding human being that cares about more than himself, and is always in pursuit of the truth....... because he knows; the truth will set you free.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 09:05 PM


oh, puleeease doct. How can you say things like that when you're nailed to a cross?
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 09:13 PM


i heard christ died for the sins of others, dennis but in your little mind, he died because he was bad for trying to help others. oh! and please don't come back with 'that i am trying to compare myself with christ' ....that would be a little to cheezzzzeeee.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 09:17 PM


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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 09:19 PM


docthaddeus and what did you do when I tried to help you ?



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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 09:21 PM


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Sackmeister ----

Arn't you being repeatedly redundant?
Seems we've seen this before.
What do you think, Hose?


Yeah and it's 5 pages 100 replies 1000 views and 10 6-packs later and you're still tripping on the "Ted and Sackmaster are one and the same guy theory." A fool like you needs to read what Hose said. Again and again and again. You don't like Hose's statement because it makes you look like a complete fool. You're a perfect example of why it's a waste of life to spend hours at a time in a discussion forum. Or any amount of time, for that matter. You need help bro, and I'm being kind.


Dude! True or not. Your posts are abrasive and have little tact. You did indeed repost the same 3 paragraphs on two different posts... verbatim...page 9 and page 11. So, yes you are redundant and repeating yourself. You're ad hominem attacks don't do you or Ted any service.

Again.. all we get from you and Ted is continued request to call. No actual information... just more ambiguity.

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just want to let everyone know that i am back. even though i lost everything, i still have a life and i must move on. the only thing, and i say it again, that won't ever change in my life, is my quest for justice in mexico. i haven't had a chance to read the good, the bad, and the ugly, yet! but, i will. and, i will post again. i will only be answering human beings. over & out. Thaddeus


Again, Ted implys that he will only provide facts via a phone call. If he is going to take the time to log on; and read all this. I'd sugest he actually answer a few questions so we could help him. Otherwise he is wasting his and our time.

I feel bad for Ted. I do. I know there has been wild speculation. I'll be the first to admit that I too am guilty. But, absent fact.. speculation is all we can give.

I also know some people do not have the best social skills and/or know how to use the internet well. But, you have to see it from our perspective. I and many others here are willing to help; but, I'm not calling anyone. I make a habit of not calling people I meet on the internet until I know them very well. Call me names, whatever. I call myself smart. The world is full of unscrupulus people... and there really is no way to tell the good from the bad on the internet. Just take a look at the spam in your inbox if you are still confused or naive.

It is obvious to me that both you and Ted lack some important social skills to some degree. Ted's first post was inflammatory and his second he called a few users names. You yourself have attacked many different people here too.

I used to work retail years ago. I provided excelent service and allways did my best to help the customer. There is a saying, "If you give bad service to one person, they will tell ten others." The only people I ever gave bad service to were a*shol*s; because, I figured there friends were as*hol*s; and I never wanted to do business with a*shol*s. The exceptional service I gave more than made up for the few people every year I sent out of the store mad.

The moral to that little story is: You get back what you give out. If you give out a bunch of BS... that is what you are going to get back.

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i'm impressed. finally the truth is surfacing, as it always will. villadelfin is amost there. the collusion in the actions taken by the police is existing mainly on subterfuge. and subterfuge is like building a house on sand. oh!
what tangled webs they weave. there will be many to pay the piper this time. this investigation is finally bearing fruit; thanks to all the remarks in this thread. and sackmaster stands at the right hand of justice. and, please be advised that sackmaster is not me. he's an outstanding human being that cares about more than himself, and is always in pursuit of the truth....... because he knows; the truth will set you free.


This post contains no facts. No information that we could use to help. Thanks!

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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 09:21 PM


By the way, Shakespear mentioned you when he said, "doct and sackmeister protest too much." He was talking about your constant insistance that you and sack are different people.
You are one and the same as well as being a woman, so please dont call me bro. It's a man thing.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2006 at 09:28 PM
Cold, Hard Facts.


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i still have a life and i must move on. the only thing, and i say it again, that won't ever change in my life, is my quest for justice in mexico.


Justice, you ain't gonna get. Unless it's very private and vindictive. Your money, property and possessions are long gone. I would suggest you follow your own advice...Move on.




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