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k-rico
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Goat, thanks for the comic relief.
You attributed a quote to me that 12Valve made. Can't you get anything right?
Please tell me how I can identify your bicycle.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Goat, thanks for the comic relief.
You attributed a quote to me that 12Valve made. Can't you get anything right?
Please tell me how I can identify your bicycle. |
all of my bikes are red (red bikes are fastest).
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caboclassof83
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I've been lurking here since 2004, really appreciate David K. working Google Earth like that too; watched this topic resurface a few times and can't
hold my tongue any longer.
I was all over the world on a touring bike in the early 1980s and Baja was just about the safest place that I ever rode through.
You clowns make me sick.
Baja enabled me to get my nerve up for touring in mainland Mexico and I romped in Guatemala for 8 days the next year when nobody really knew who was
running the country; this in an area that the Army had temporarily given up on.
I had the Pan American Highway all to myself for two days because the bridges were dynamited and the road from Puerto Angel to Oaxaca all to myself
for a day because a bus had flipped over across the whole road and I was the only thing that got through. Came down to Palenque through the places
that the Chiapas rebels would shut down for a decade later on too. Had the Espinazo del Diablo on Durango-Mazatlan all to myself but for one really
noisy truck two years later- did the coast of Michoacan twice and the only tight spot in all of that travel was just south of Lazaro Card##as the
first time down. (So the second time down I just bribed a City Mini Bus to take us all the way into Zihuatenejo instead of service his route.)
I'm also quite likely to be the first ever to ride a bike from the sea to the Observatorio unless someone else did that before October 84. At least
the staff up there thought so. Just a tiny shred of it was paved.
The bottom line is that this is some of the best bicycle touring in the whole world, I saw plenty of North America, Spain and France, and prefer
Mexico to any of it. And I almost prefer Baja to all of the 60 percent of the Mexican mainland that I passed through to, but for the coast of
Michoacan the year after the road was built through.
I'll grant you that riding two abreast in the presence of traffic on that road is borderline insanity but I've got a news flash here:
These retards aside the Bicyclists have put as much thought into surviving the overall experience as you selfish dildoes have put into contesting
their rights under the law. In a country where you are a visitor yourself? They actually realize the implications of getting run over and critically
injured 600 miles south of the border with 70 miles between sources of water. On the other hand you people act as though scraping them off your
grilles afterward will represent an unreasonable inconvenience? Nothing but class there?
Nobody with a full sense of hearing should ever put himself in a position to get killed in a place like that. What I was most scared of back then was
when the two competing bus lines were drag racing down the highway out in the middle of nowhere. Good thing that you could hear that coming from ten
miles up the road? FWIW, I caught that act just about equally on Baja as on the Mainland. I was always more than willing to get 20 feet off the road
and chill out until they all passed by, I'd seen them passing each other on blind curves and read about it in Peoples Gide to Mexico before that. I
didn't need to verify it any further.
There was no internet back then it would have cost somebody a $20 phone call just to get the word out that I had been greased. This wasn't a game for
children back then, but apparently it is from the motorist side now?
I'll grant you that I saw Baja at a point where the tourist infrastructure was collapsing; certainly the road was more lightly traveled. Jimmy Smith
was flying up to San Isidro every week to get the money into an American bank ASAP. I just walked right into those abandoned tourist camps from
pre-1975 and took whatever I needed, I walked right into El Presidente hotels and asserted my sweaty gringohood for a quick hop in the pool and maybe
a hot shave on the house. I slept right on the beach in downtown Cabo with about 50 other vagabond types and took a beautiful boat to Puerta Vallarta
for a whopping $1.80 (including cabin) the next day- yes I get all that.
They poured out 20 Gallons a Minute from Cabo's wonderful spring right into the street back then and we filled up just like the Manilla treasure ships
did. I even knew about it the same week that bicycles were prohibited between Cabo and San Jose in modern era because we had Kilometer 12 all to
ourselves camping for two days on the return leg.
Regardless of what you visitors think about it, Mexican nationals are much better drivers to coexist with than the typical Winnebago dirtbag. (Who by
and large never even had to get a special operators license to infest the thoroughfares with a vehicle that size, I might remind you? Ditto for the
guy who is all peeed about having to slow down with his monster boat in back. When did he ever take a road test to drive an 11 foot lane?)
Moreover a cyclist is generally much safer in country that sees a lot of livestock and pedestrians and grossly underpowered motor vehicles out on the
major highways. As you approach a Mexican town of any size and the traffic gets more dense there is always a cart path in the dirt along the edge too.
Good luck finding that in Wyoming or Louisiana on an equally narrow road.
I had two curious encounters with Mexican law enforcement types, one near each border during times when said border was way out of control. Plus one
more at an Army checkpoint in Guerrero that makes the ones that you guys post about here look like Romper Room, but never a lick of trouble with a
Mexican driver anywhere, professional or amateur.
I always associated that phenomenon to the way that you can quickly end up in jail after a traffic accident down there, who knows?
So it would appear to me that YOU guys are the problem?
No wonder the Mexican Government takes your insurance situation so seriously? Oh by the way I rode at NIGHT down there, I rode a whole lot at night,
(gasp.)
That's pretty much how I got through the really nasty place in Guerrero. Where they held up public buses whenever they felt like it and just took the
money like a passenger train robbery.
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DENNIS
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You ramble on like a gosh darn drunk, confused as to what comes first....scolding everybody here or telling us how cool you are. Personally, neither
of your opinions means chiit to me.
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BajaGringo
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But I do detect a familiar tone to their post...
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rhintransit
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you said a mouthful, caboclassof83! way to tell it like it is/was!
the cyclists who stop at my palapa say that Americans are the only people in the world who expect shoulders on the road.
welcome and thicken your hide, though I expect it already is tough enough to survive the Nomad blasts.
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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LancairDriver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
You ramble on like a gosh darn drunk, confused as to what comes first....scolding everybody here or telling us how cool you are. Personally, neither
of your opinions means poop to me. |
I'll second that opinion. Sounds like another wanabe Lance Armstrong looking to get their **s run over and achieve bicycle martyrdom defending their
right to take their half of the road out of the middle.
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caboclassof83
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What's the difference between a San Diego lawyer on a $5000 touring bicycle and a Mexican native with 200 pesos to his name running a barely
operational and certainly uninsured 150cc motorcycle on Highway One?
Well the Winnebago ************* who didn't even have to once prove his own competence to drive that beast on wide American roads somehow thinks that
he has more right to the highway than the former?
The Mexicans and the rest of the civilized world do not.
This will really tick these WinneVegitables off- I caught the boat to Los Mochis 40 minutes after I decided to take it- that would have taken you a
week at the time.
Until I got to the Yucatan with a rented car, I never had to pay out a single centavo of mordida anywhere. The Mexicans treated me like a God. And
guess what, it's THEIR country too?
The cops who stopped me at gunpoint in Chihuahua ultimately changed out my money at a better rate than I would get in New Mexico and then insisted on
sharing a six pack before I was "released."
Like I said, YOU are the problem.....and you have no more "right" to that road than the man on the moon does.
So enjoy your $6/gallon gas, burrobags. Mexico will be a net importer of petroleum within five years and I'll certainly be coming back.
[Edited on 2-16-2010 by BajaNomad]
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DENNIS
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Why don't you just write your travelog and get it over with. Seems that's what you really want to do anyway. What's your problem? Fear of rejection?
You and your self-appointed champion of the masses attitude will get you plenty of that. You should try to get used to it.
In the meantime, why don't you concentrate on your own neighborhood and save your money for your next FMT. That's the permit tourists like you are
required to have, case you forgot.
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vandenberg
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Tell me....you're not a returning troll.
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caboclassof83
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*********************************************************************** The law is pretty clear on this point? Just about everywhere that there is
pavement too.
You would have a very hard time securing a commercial drivers license for the same size vehicle in either country as well. Somehow you don't want to
dispute that point?
Now what's the difference between an American and a Mexican cyclist on that highway, while we are at it? (Assuming, I guess that you found their
attire equally offensive, I suppose?)
I rode (in the Rockies) with the CEO of Allis Chalmers for the entire country- he had 5700 Mexicans working for him, plus his own business airplane
and multi-millionaire buddies all over Monterrey
So are you more entitled to Mexican highways than he was too?
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by BajaNomad]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
You would have a very hard time securing a commercial drivers license for the same size vehicle in either country as well. Somehow you don't want to
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No point to dispute. I couldn't care less about qualifications to drive a motorhome or anything else.
The point is, other than your head, this thread, which you dug out of it's grave, concerned a-hole cyclists just like you riding two lane roads slowly
uphill with a car running interference. Why don't you stick to the original point instead of trying to impress everybody with your road antics.
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wessongroup
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As the goat so eloquently pointed out in an indirect manner... it is, actually an issue of public safety, not of personal freedom for either user of
the road
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caboclassof83
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Come to think of it. how many Mexican nationals are tooling around in full size RVs this winter? In the entire Republic?
Maybe 500 or 1000?
Are they supposed to all drive like selfish six year olds just because you want to?
I bet they don't? I bet that some of them actually had to pass a road test too? On real twisty-ass Mexican roads.
Actually I'm pretty much sure of it in both cases insofar as a chofer might be involved for the kind of Mexican families that can afford it.
So, uhh, what makes you so gosh darn special?
Did you build the road yourself?
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wessongroup
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Happy valentines day.. 
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DENNIS
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You've completly lost it. Why don't you dig up another thread and see how long you last with it. You arn't very good at this.
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caboclassof83
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Public safety was riding over the two lane bridge in New Orleans- I never did that again.
Riding into the D.F. would have been an issue of public safety as well, so I took the train instead.
If you can't coexist on Mexico One then you aren't even a primate. Seeing as you are the ones getting the regulatory free ride in the first place?
(You low-life freeloaders never have to stop at highway scales anywhere either? Why is that?)
What's the difference between people who take 50 times better care of themselves than you do wearing clothing that you despise and a domestic cattle
drive that costs you two hours?
In one case you spout ignorant *********; in the other you end up driving over it?
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by BajaNomad]
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wessongroup
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Are we having fun yet this is better than a Super Bowl game.. and no commercials too
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Donjulio
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Guys don't let this gentleman bother you too much. This is what happens when you spend an inordinate amount of time with a long hard thing shoved up
between your butt cracks. And they call it a bicycle seat...yeah right.
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caboclassof83
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Do I need to like request your permission to maybe go down the lagoon side on a mountain bike someday?
Even though both Mexican and U.S. law clearly says that you have your head six feet up your backside?
They can't even keep U.S. cyclists off Interstates where it's the only way though, chief. Wake TF up.
Professional Mexican drivers operating bigger heavier vehicles for a living don't have a problem with flashy American cyclists on Mex One and you
schlubs do?
What's wrong with this picture?
Oh that's right- someone made them prove that they could drive to begin with?
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