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ehall
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PaulW
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ASUNCION? Gonzaga, right?
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Nope
So, at Las Arrastras, where the Coco's Bypass begins, you must have gone straight instead of curved to the left for Coco's Corner?
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At theBig sign = Go right for the construction road. Go left to get to Coco's direct.
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David,
San Felipe to Baja Asuncion 2 nights there then on to Punta Abreojos Got stuck on the low road. Towed my son out of the mud and continued on the high
road. On to San Ignacio for 2 nights. Goal is Del Cabo via all the dirt we can do with two 4x4 big trucks.
Record tides full moon and solstice. Low road are top be avoided
PW
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | | Quote: Originally posted by David K |
ASUNCION? Gonzaga, right?
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Nope
So, at Las Arrastras, where the Coco's Bypass begins, you must have gone straight instead of curved to the left for Coco's Corner?
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At theBig sign = Go right for the construction road. Go left to get to Coco's direct.
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David,
San Felipe to Baja Asuncion 2 nights there then on to Punta Abreojos Got stuck on the low road. Towed my son out of the mud and continued on the high
road. On to San Ignacio for 2 nights. Goal is Del Cabo via all the dirt we can do with two 4x4 big trucks.
Record tides full moon and solstice. Low road are top be avoided
PW
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Do not listen to people with old road instructions. I have been trying to warn people for a year about the flooded lower road.
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CortezBlue
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Wait for it.....
Wait.........
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David K
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In one year and three months, not one inch of new pavement has been opened to travel. All the effort the past 15 months has been centered on
the bridges and mountain leveling.
A recent drone video seems to show a few more kilometers may be opening soon (perhaps as far as Las Arrastras).
Here is a recap from page one of this Jan. 2015 thread on the progress from Puertecitos south since 2007:
In Nov. 2006, the new pavement had not yet reached Puertecitos, the highway from the late 1980's was all broken and mostly gone (too thin).
Beginning about 2002, they started repaving the road south from San Felipe and by 2005 they were halfway done. In Feb. 2007 it had reached
Puertecitos, but nothing new south of town.
My next trip south of Puertecitos was in Sept. 2008, and the Y junction (Km. 74) was in place and the new pavement routed above town, extended for 2
miles from the junction. Exactly when this was opened, I don't know, but perhaps it was all built in 2008, so I can guess at a Jan. 2008 as a start
date for now. It is Jan. 2014 and in 6 full years, 60 miles of paved highway has been built and opened. 10 miles a year average progress to date... up
from the earlier rate of 6-7 miles a year.
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Here is the distance of paved road open from Puertecitos junction south:
In Feb. 2007: 0 miles
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On Sept. 1, 2008: 2 miles...
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On Jan. 1, 2009: 4 miles.
[4 months added 2 miles.]
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On July 19, 2010: 18.5 miles...
[1 year, 7 months added 16.5 miles.]
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On July 15, 2012: 32.3 miles (Km. 126+), 15 miles north of Gonzaga Pemex...
[2 years added 13.8 miles.]
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Pemex San Luis Gonzaga at Km. 150, 47.1 miles from Puertecitos Jcn. (Km. 74).
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From TW, Mar., 2014: 2 miles south of Pemex. (49 mi. from Puertecitos). Photo from Mando, looking north to Pemex from end of pavement:
[1 year and 8 months added 17 miles.]
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From StuckSucks, Nov. 2014: Km. 154 (2.4 miles south of Pemex, ~51 from Puertecitos):
[8 months added 2 miles.]
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Jan. 8, 2015 report: Pavement ends at Km. 170.5, 12.7 miles south of Pemex (Km. 150), 60 miles from Puertecitos junction (Km. 74).
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BooJumMan
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Curious.... for those with dirt capable vehicles and no trailer, about how long does it take to drive the dirt section?
Does anyone know the approximate time it takes from San Felipe to Rancho Grande pemex?
Leaving Mexicali 6am and hoping to get to the Pemex before they close for siesta! 
[Edited on 4-26-2016 by BooJumMan]
[Edited on 4-26-2016 by BooJumMan]
In that pre-Google Earth and social media epoch, The Code was adhered to. It was based on a simple verity: if a locale had been transformational for
you, and you had put the hard yards in to get there and to learn it, to know it, why in god�s name would you broadcast the news, thus ruining the
future experience not only for yourself, but for future adventurers?
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David K
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.75-1.5 hours for 23 mile dirt section (if not racing).
San Felipe to Rancho Grande: ~95 miles is about 2 hours (as the first 50 miles to Puertecitos has numerous, steep vados one must take slowly.
Rancho Grande does not close for siesta. The Pemex (owned by Alfonsina's, just north of and across the highway from Rancho Grande) does.
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RenoJoe
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I'm Driving that way today in my 32 foot M/H towing my Samari. In January it took 2 & 1/2 hours being careful. I am hoping it will be better this
time if I air down first and fill up in Chapala.
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chuckie
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Let us know, please, if the service at the Coco's Starbucks has improved...Rumors were it was over 8 minutes just to get a simple latte, and the wifi
was quite slow...Not acceptable!
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BooJumMan
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Thanks I appreciate the info. I've got 3 days only so just trying to plan out my trip a little.
Chuckie - funny, I hate being "that guy" ...
[Edited on 4-26-2016 by BooJumMan]
In that pre-Google Earth and social media epoch, The Code was adhered to. It was based on a simple verity: if a locale had been transformational for
you, and you had put the hard yards in to get there and to learn it, to know it, why in god�s name would you broadcast the news, thus ruining the
future experience not only for yourself, but for future adventurers?
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chuckie
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Have a great trip!!!! First cup at the new Starbucks is on me....I enjoy your closer....
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John M
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Progress?
Drove Highway 1 at Chapala to Gonzaga two days ago. The dirt portion from Highway 1 to the base of the hills - maybe 4 or 5 miles is in much better
shape, smoother as it appears part of it may be the new road and so some grading work has been done. DON'T BE TEMPTED TO DRIVE ON THE BLOCKED OFF
PORTION OF THE NEW ROAD ON THIS FEW MILE LONG SECTION!!! Just as you approach the numerous culverts there is a narrow but horrid space between the
roadway and the culvert, at night or at speed you might not see it, and oops a gap of two feet between the end of the dirt roadway and the culvert -
it could ruin your day.
Once into the hills you'll be on a much improved and fairly smooth road surface for 4 maybe 5 miles - then it's the same old crap for the last 4 miles
into Coco's. Took us 45 minutes for the 13 or so miles from Highway 1 to Cocos.
Then back on the dirt for ten miles - only marginally improved in a few places. Slow going.
By the way, Coco wasn't home - we were told he is in Ensenada with doctor visits. Home this week maybe Wednesday.
John M
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David K
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Thanks John!
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bkbend
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There are a lot of potholes now in the 25 or so miles north of Puertecitos. You cannot dodge them all and I had to slow down enough to make the vados
a non-event.
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RenoJoe
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Did the dirt get shorter yet?
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Bajazly
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Not as of a month ago. Coco said all work had stopped because of money issues and when we went thru, there were a few people but not much was going
on.
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TMW
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Same as of June 26th. It's about 9/10 miles south of Gonzaga Bay where the pavement ends to Cocos and about 13 miles from Cocos to Hwy 1.
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David K
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Hi Nomads,
I was on Hwy. 5 yesterday (Sunday) all the way to Hwy. 1.
NOT ONE INCH of new pavement has been added to the section under construction in the past ~ 1.5 years (we drove it in July 2015 and it was about 6
mos. old I think then).
Crews were sitting around on site but no machines were operating except for a water on the Laguna Chapala crossing. It was Sunday, but I think I have
seen them work Sundays before?
Except for maybe 3 completed bridges and the road bed across the Chapala valley, it is hardly any different, through the mountain section, than in
July 2015.
We just got home tonight, so look for a full, photo-filled trip report soon!
OH, they changed the kilometer markers somewhere south of Puertecitos! The Gonzaga Pemex was Km. 150 last year, and now is Km. 147 (just south of the
marker).
Pavement ends just over 20 kilometers south (Km. 167 1/2).
My odometer has the dirt from there to Coco's Corner at 9.9 miles and Coco's to Hwy. 1 at 12.6 miles. There are some small sections of new road bed
you do get to drive on which lowered the overall miles by a tiny bit from my readings last year. Dirt total now 22.5 miles.
[Edited on 7-12-2016 by David K]
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BigBearRider
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Hi Nomads,
I was on Hwy. 5 yesterday (Sunday) all the way to Hwy. 1.
NOT ONE INCH of new pavement has been added to the section under construction in the past ~ 1.5 years (we drove it in July 2015 and it was about 6
mos. old I think then).
Crews were sitting around on site but no machines were operating except for a water on the Laguna Chapala crossing. It was Sunday, but I think I have
seen them work Sundays before?
Except for maybe 3 completed bridges and the road bed across the Chapala valley, it is hardly any different, through the mountain section, than in
July 2015.
We just got home tonight, so look for a full, photo-filled trip report soon!
OH, they changed the kilometer markers somewhere south of Puertecitos! The Gonzaga Pemex was Km. 150 last year, and now is Km. 147 (just south of the
marker).
Pavement ends just over 20 kilometers south (Km. 167 1/2).
My odometer has the dirt from there to Coco's Corner at 9.9 miles and Coco's to Hwy. 1 at 12.6 miles. There are some small sections of new road bed
you do get to drive on which lowered the overall miles by a tiny bit from my readings last year. Dirt total now 22.5 miles.
[Edited on 7-12-2016 by David K] |
How can you really be sure if they moved the mile marker, and not the Pemex? 
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chuckie
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He checks it against the Palm Tree....If it hasn't gone under water yet, nothing has changed...
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