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[*] posted on 7-25-2024 at 04:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
This happened to me - I argued, but it's still good for vehicle travel, but took it anyway.


You were wrong- it isn't "still good for vehicle travel". There aren't different tourist permissions depending on whether you drive or fly. Tourist visas are good for one trip into Mexico. When you leave, that visa is void, regardless of whether it was good for 7 days or 180 days.


It appears to me, in the context of what wilderone described, they were correct. The FMM wilderone had was indeed usable for multiple entries at northern Baja crossings. Just as David K states on his website Viva Baja.
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[*] posted on 7-25-2024 at 04:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by cupcake  
Below is a link to Nomad David K's website, Viva Baja. David thinks highly enough of Baja Bound Insurance, that he links to their website regarding FMM issues and more. This is the same company I linked to previously in this thread.

https://vivabaja.com/advice-on-driving/
"The FMM can be free for visits of 7 days (6 nights) or less. For up to 180 days, the fee is 717 pesos, about $40 (U.S.) dollars, currently. You keep the FMM until it expires, for multiple auto trips south. Unlike the flying FMM, it does not get returned to INM when you leave Mexico." [written in 2023]

[Edited on 7-25-2024 by cupcake]


If you found it on the internet, then it must be true! :lol:





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[*] posted on 7-26-2024 at 10:01 AM


Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
Not like the old days.

https://www.mexicotouristcard.com/

Gotta question? Email: Contact@MexicoTouristCard.com


That looks like some fishy non-govt website…







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[*] posted on 7-26-2024 at 12:28 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by cupcake  
Below is a link to Nomad David K's website, Viva Baja. David thinks highly enough of Baja Bound Insurance, that he links to their website regarding FMM issues and more. This is the same company I linked to previously in this thread.

https://vivabaja.com/advice-on-driving/
"The FMM can be free for visits of 7 days (6 nights) or less. For up to 180 days, the fee is 717 pesos, about $40 (U.S.) dollars, currently. You keep the FMM until it expires, for multiple auto trips south. Unlike the flying FMM, it does not get returned to INM when you leave Mexico." [written in 2023]

[Edited on 7-25-2024 by cupcake]


If you found it on the internet, then it must be true! :lol:



I have personally reentered Mexico at SY-TJ crossing with an old FMM and had the Mexican border agent tell me, in perfect English, "yes, these are now multiple entry."

Though it is always good to be skeptical of what you read online, if you think about it, this really does have to be a case of an official directive, probably as reported on a number of websites. There is no doubt that INM agents in northern Baja have been treating FMM as multiple entry. It does not seem possible that a group of INM agents got together and decided to do this on their own. They would be likely to lose their job and possibly face criminal prosecution, if they were doing this outside of an official directive. If it were just a one off instance of a single agent doing this, that would be one thing, but it is not. It is many agents over a lengthy period of time.
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[*] posted on 7-26-2024 at 06:10 PM


"some fishy non-govt website"
might be right ... I deleted my post !!
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[*] posted on 7-30-2024 at 10:29 AM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
BajaNaranja, thanks for the added info! I may be doing the same thing this fall, with my son along for the ride south, but he would need to fly back north before I would be ready to return.

Loreto would be the airport, and it should be the same as flying from T.J., but that probably depends on local interpretation of the rules.

My family flew out of SJD last year after we drove across at Mexicali West (where we got an FMM). Zero issues.
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[*] posted on 7-30-2024 at 11:54 AM


Of course there weren't any issues. You got tourist cards when you entered Mexico and there aren't any restrictions anywhere in Mexico as to leaving the country by a different mode of transportation than the one you used to enter.
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[*] posted on 7-31-2024 at 06:50 AM


Quote: Originally posted by towntaco  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
BajaNaranja, thanks for the added info! I may be doing the same thing this fall, with my son along for the ride south, but he would need to fly back north before I would be ready to return.

Loreto would be the airport, and it should be the same as flying from T.J., but that probably depends on local interpretation of the rules.

My family flew out of SJD last year after we drove across at Mexicali West (where we got an FMM). Zero issues.


Yes should be no problem but did they take it when you flew out of SJD?

That is what they used to do if you flew out of SJD.

And if you fly back into Mexico, the FMM fee is included in the airfare fees.

So even if they didn’t take it, if you fly back into Mexico you are paying the FMM fee anyway.

If you were to drive back into Mexico, I don’t see it would be a problem as long as they didn’t take the FMM.



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[*] posted on 7-31-2024 at 10:33 AM


You always have to turn in the tourist card when you fly out of any airport in Mexico.
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[*] posted on 7-31-2024 at 04:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
You always have to turn in the tourist card when you fly out of any airport in Mexico.


But you don’t get a tourist card anymore when you fly into Mexico, they stamp your passport.

So no tourist card to return. And they've given me 180 days written next to the stamp.
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[*] posted on 7-31-2024 at 05:31 PM


Yes, I'm well aware they stamp passports now on airline entry into Mexico and also on exit.

This thread was about driving in, getting a tourist card at that time, and then flying out.

My point was that if you had a tourist card, it was and will be always taken from you when flying out.


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[Edited on 8-1-2024 by surabi]
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[*] posted on 8-1-2024 at 06:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Purdyd  


Yes should be no problem but did they take it when you flew out of SJD?

That is what they used to do if you flew out of SJD.

And if you fly back into Mexico, the FMM fee is included in the airfare fees.

So even if they didn’t take it, if you fly back into Mexico you are paying the FMM fee anyway.

If you were to drive back into Mexico, I don’t see it would be a problem as long as they didn’t take the FMM.




Mexican INM staff took each family members FMM when flying out of SJD.
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[*] posted on 10-1-2024 at 12:38 PM


Yesterday, I crossed to Tijuana at San Ysidro. My old FMM has 17+ days left, and since this is a short trip for me, returning no later than October 14th, I decided to see if I could use this old FMM to enter Mexico. I showed the FMM to the INM agent and asked if I could use it, the agent then turned to a supervisor who was standing at the adjacent counter and asked him. The supervisor said "si, ciertamente". I wonder if the old FMM would have been honored had the supervisor not been there (if not I would have gotten the free 7-day type). Normally, I would be travelling for more than just two weeks, and this is why I don't often try entering with an old FMM (there is usually not enough time left on them).

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