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bajachris
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My husband has a permanent resident card; I get temporary FMM every time we enter Baja since I was working in the USA until about a week ago. The
truck is registered in both our names. Do I need to drive through each checkpoint?
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Quote: Originally posted by bajachris  | | My husband has a permanent resident card; I get temporary FMM every time we enter Baja since I was working in the USA until about a week ago. The
truck is registered in both our names. Do I need to drive through each checkpoint? |
No, you dont
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since some of you don't do facebook:
Harald Pietschmann
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latitude32
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like you said....that time of year 
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surabi
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Doesn't sound like this guy is very informed.
The federal govt. has not "altered its policy on foreign-registered vehicles driven by Permanent Residents", therefore there would be no reason for
them to put out an official press release informing of a "change". The law regarding PRs not being allowed to drive foreign plated vehicles has been
in place for many years, regardless of whether it was enforced in Baja.
[Edited on 12-10-2025 by surabi]
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bajachris
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From Discover Baja: Out of our 10 K + members we haven't heard of anyone having their vehicles confiscated as of yet.
The vehicles that we know have been confiscated, have had expired registrations.
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bajatrailrider
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They are doing their best checking. We crossed into border TJ south bound other day at 5pm . New truck trailer S Dakota plates Flatbed trailer. My
new SXS they had nobody to check us told us they will get someone. Ten min passed new guy asked Driver lic we only gave our US license. All 3 Reg
papers he looked at them long time. Now wants to see vin numbers Truck trailer and SXS. He then took pictures all vin numbers. Sending pictures to his
boss to see if stolen. He did his best to find something wrong but failed. Never asked for Visa or Prs as not legal to ask. I told him All is legal
are you good, returned papers on our way
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Yeah, this well-respected Mexican lawyer with decades of experience specializing in cross-border law isn't well informed. You're right Surabi, maybe
you can consult for him...
This whole RP driving U.S. plated car thing blew up from someone with second or third-hand info talking about a car being confiscated on Facebook. It
got traction by another poster who was selling their car importing services. Another post was created asking if anyone THEMSELVES actually had any
troubles with this, and not one single first hand account was delivered. I was following it all in real time. Like so many Baja rumors, it doesn't
take much to start the rumor mill chugging.
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Tioloco
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| Quote: Originally posted by BeachSeeker |
Yeah, this well-respected Mexican lawyer with decades of experience specializing in cross-border law isn't well informed. You're right Surabi, maybe
you can consult for him...
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My thoughts exactly, Beachseeker
[Edited on 12-12-2025 by Tioloco]
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surabi
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The law that PRs can't drive foreign-plated vehicles in Mexico isn't new, nor does it say it doesn't apply to Baja. Just because they haven't enforced
it in Baja, or that cars being confiscated there might be nothing but rumors doesn't negate that fact.
So yes, that lawyer is misinformed, and so are those here who seem so sure of themselves that this lawyer couldn't possibly be wrong, even though you
most certainly haven't bothered to research the law yourselves, instead just putting forth your uninformed opinions and insults.
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the latest from the ill informed lawyer
Harald Pietschmann
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mtgoat666
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So can we go back to willfully breaking the law with impunity?
Woke!
Hands off!
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“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
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surabi
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"Baja Legal Advice" continues to show that he does not understand the regulations regarding PRs driving foreign plated vehicles.
"Free Zone" or SAT issuing a statement about whether Baja is a free zone has nothing to do with it. Free Zone refers to not requiring a TIP for
foreign plated cars driven into Mexico by tourists and temp. residents. Baja and northern Mexican mainland states are free zones in that they don't
require a TIP.
I don't know why it's so difficult for this lawyer and other people to understand that this is completely unrelated to the regulations about PRs not
being permitted to drive foreign plated cars in Mexico.
Whether that is enforced and foreign plated cars of PRs are confiscated or not has nothing to do with free zones and TIPs.
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Surabi, you are trying to coax nuance out of a law that no one has even seen written anywhere. Have you seen the exact wording? Can you point exactly
to a law or regulation that says RPs can't drive foreign plated cars in free zones? I'm sure the answer is no. We've all just read articles or
statements about the law. The reason free zones come up is because an RP cannot get a TIP. That is practical and verifiable, not theoretical.
There are tens of thousands of Americans and Canadians with RP that live or travel in Baja regularly. How many have imported their car to Mexico?
There is pedantry, and then there is practical application.
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surabi
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I am trying to hunt up the exact law regarding PRs not being allowed to drive foreign plated vehicles. But this article makes it clear that it is the
law, and that it is only a matter of that law not being enforced in Baja, not that the law doesn't apply in Baja.
"Permanent residents and foreign-plated vehicles:
When Mexico reformed its immigration law in 2012, it explicitly forbade foreigners with Permanent Residency status from importing a foreign-plated
vehicle to Mexico.
According to law, since 2012, holders of Permanent Residency cards cannot apply for a TIP and, legally, cannot drive a foreign-plated car to anywhere
in Mexico."
https://www.mexperience.com/permanent-residency-foreign-plat...
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by BeachSeeker | Surabi, you are trying to coax nuance out of a law that no one has even seen written anywhere. Have you seen the exact wording? Can you point exactly
to a law or regulation that says RPs can't drive foreign plated cars in free zones? I'm sure the answer is no. We've all just read articles or
statements about the law. The reason free zones come up is because an RP cannot get a TIP. That is practical and verifiable, not theoretical.
There are tens of thousands of Americans and Canadians with RP that live or travel in Baja regularly. How many have imported their car to Mexico?
There is pedantry, and then there is practical application. |
Ley Aduanera – Artículo 106
https://mexico.justia.com/federales/leyes/ley-aduanera/titul...
Customs law prohibits mexican citizens and perm residents from temporarily importing foreign-registered vehicles, and also prohibits mex citizens and
perm residents from driving foreign-registered vehicles in TIP-free zones like the baja peninsula.
Free zones do not give perm residents and mex citizens a
special import privileges.
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- Article 106 says only visitors or temp residents can temporarily import a car (TIP).
-The RGCE allows for foreign plated cars to circulate without temporary importing (TIP) within the "free zone". This is regardless of immigration
status.
It seems like it is easy to interpret that the second point negates the first.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by BeachSeeker | - Article 106 says only visitors or temp residents can temporarily import a car (TIP).
-The RGCE allows for foreign plated cars to circulate without temporary importing (TIP) within the "free zone". This is regardless of immigration
status.
It seems like it is easy to interpret that the second point negates the first. |
Where does it say free zone allows driving foreign cars regardless of immigration status?
your interpretation may not be legally defensible.
Woke!
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surabi
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You are "interpreting" it in the way you would like it to be, which it isn't. "Allows for foreign plated cars to circulate without a TIP" makes it
obvious that "free zone" relates to not needing a TIP.
What part of PRs can never get a TIP to travel anywhere in Mexico, therefore "free zone", which relates to TIPs, does not apply to them, is
hard for you to wrap your mind around?
[Edited on 12-14-2025 by surabi]
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Tioloco
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
You are "interpreting" it in the way you would like it to be, which it isn't. "Allows for foreign plated cars to circulate without a TIP" makes it
obvious that "free zone" relates to not needing a TIP.
What part of PRs can never get a TIP to travel anywhere in Mexico, therefore "free zone", which relates to TIPs, does not apply to them, is
hard for you to wrap your mind around?
[Edited on 12-14-2025 by surabi] |
In your earlier reply, "I am trying to hunt up".... Well, what happened to your info??? Stop presenting yourself as an expert and diminishing the real
experts, please.
Rafael Solorzano and Beachseeker are the only ones here that can intelligently answer the question. Jeez...if you cant find a statute to bolster your
argument, say so.
[Edited on 12-14-2025 by Tioloco]
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