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SANTISPAC...SOLD OR NOT! Who knows, but the rumor mill is definitely working overtime. It seems that a lot of people have nothing more to do than
speculate and add to the confusion that already exists. As is the usual annual event, the rumor is circulating again this year, only with more speed
and more grist. I believe that the rumor has indeed put on some weight this time and may well be true. Several local people have claimed to have
connection to the ejido, either by some distant familial tie, or they know somebody who knows somebody who knows...? I have heard a number of
different stories regarding the sale of Santispac. Most of these sources, I wouldn't deem knowledgeable or credible on the subject of the sale.
It is my understanding that Fonatur is indeed negotiating with the ejido, for the purchase of Santispac and some surrounding acreage. I
understand further that Fonatur has agreed to buy, and the ejido has agreed to sell...all they are doing now is negotiating the amount of money and
land.
Like most everybody who lives on Santispac Beach, I am a squatter. I am certain that I will be among the last to know exactly what is going on.
When I built my home , I always knew that the sale of Santispac was a very real possibility. It was the risk I was willing to take.
I can assure you that the bull-dozers are not here, and I have not been asked to vacate my premise's. I have received no formal notification from
anyone, official or otherwise. As far as I know, no one on Santispac Beach has received any notification.
I believe, that if a sale does occur, I will in due course be notified, and given adequate time to remove my possessions and "residence". I have
yet to see a project in Mexico go so fast that I couldn't outrun it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Its owned by an Ejido named Bonifil headquartered in La Paz.
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some parts are and some parts are not.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
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Can a landowner in Mexico terminte lease agreements upon the sale of a property or must a new owner honor the terms of the lease?
I guess it's possible that maybe there was a termination clause in the lease or maybe they were refusing to renew leases as they came up.
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just like in the U.S. it depends on the wording in the lease.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Anonymous
SANTISPAC...SOLD OR NOT! Who knows, but the rumor mill is definitely working overtime. It seems that a lot of people have nothing more to do than
speculate and add to the confusion that already exists. As is the usual annual event, the rumor is circulating again this year, only with more speed
and more grist. I believe that the rumor has indeed put on some weight this time and may well be true. Several local people have claimed to have
connection to the ejido, either by some distant familial tie, or they know somebody who knows somebody who knows...? I have heard a number of
different stories regarding the sale of Santispac. Most of these sources, I wouldn't deem knowledgeable or credible on the subject of the sale.
It is my understanding that Fonatur is indeed negotiating with the ejido, for the purchase of Santispac and some surrounding acreage. I
understand further that Fonatur has agreed to buy, and the ejido has agreed to sell...all they are doing now is negotiating the amount of money and
land.
Like most everybody who lives on Santispac Beach, I am a squatter. I am certain that I will be among the last to know exactly what is going on.
When I built my home , I always knew that the sale of Santispac was a very real possibility. It was the risk I was willing to take.
I can assure you that the bull-dozers are not here, and I have not been asked to vacate my premise's. I have received no formal notification from
anyone, official or otherwise. As far as I know, no one on Santispac Beach has received any notification.
I believe, that if a sale does occur, I will in due course be notified, and given adequate time to remove my possessions and "residence". I have
yet to see a project in Mexico go so fast that I couldn't outrun it.
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since you are the only person that lives there that has posted here. we are very interested in your opinion and thoughts on this subject.your post is
vary good, honest and informative. why don't you give it more creditability by not posting it Anonymous?
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| Quote: | Originally (not) posted by Bruce R Leech
I understand further that Fonatur has agreed to buy, and the ejido has agreed to sell...all they are doing now is negotiating the amount of money and
land.
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If it's Fonatur that's buying, I have a word of advice for the Ejido:
Cash only.
[Edited on 5-20-2005 by Dave]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I understand further that Fonatur has agreed to buy, and the ejido has agreed to sell...all they are doing now is negotiating the amount of money and
land.
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If it's Fonatur that's buying, I have a word of advice for the Ejido:
Cash only. |
Dave that was posted by Anonymous not me.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
Dave that was posted by Anonymous not me. |
Sorry Bruce, I fixed it.
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no problem have a good day David.
[Edited on 5-21-2005 by Bruce R Leech]
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NEITHER IS SANTISPAC OWNED BY ANY EJIDADORES NOR BY ANYBODY ELSE PRIVATELY.
IT'S FONATUR BUYING 2000 AC OF LAND AROUND MULEGE.
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I traveled from La Paz to Ensenada and back last week and know more info about that stretch than posted here.
i. e. ther is a new surface on Mex 1 around Mulege.
That was the worst stretch of all Mex 1.
i.e. there will be a new cellphone tower on a tip across the river in Mulege.
i.e. around GroNegro you might face very tough 'Pandas' w/ radar guns these days.
They know that all Pi-Gringos are leaving North in a hurry as weather warms up here in La Paz and all BCS.
Take care guys!
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[Edited on 5-27-2005 by BajaNomad]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Anonymous
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NEITHER IS SANTISPAC OWNED BY ANY EJIDADORES NOR BY ANYBODY ELSE PRIVATELY.
IT'S FONATUR BUYING 2000 AC OF LAND AROUND MULEGE.
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I traveled from La Paz to Ensenada and back last week and know more info about that stretch than posted here.
i. e. ther is a new surface on Mex 1 around Mulege.
That was the worst stretch of all Mex 1.
i.e. there will be a new cellphone tower on a tip across the river in Mulege.
i.e. around GroNegro you might face very tough 'Pandas' w/ radar guns these days.
They know that all Pi-Gringos are leaving North in a hurry as weather warms up here in La Paz and all BCS.
Take care guys!
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Anonymous if you gain so much info just by driving a stretch of Highway why would you not want to shear your rumorers with us. If you tell the truth
once in a while you would not need to post as Anonymous
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
| Quote: | Originally posted by Anonymous
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NEITHER IS SANTISPAC OWNED BY ANY EJIDADORES NOR BY ANYBODY ELSE PRIVATELY.
IT'S FONATUR BUYING 2000 AC OF LAND AROUND MULEGE.
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I traveled from La Paz to Ensenada and back last week and know more info about that stretch than posted here.
i. e. ther is a new surface on Mex 1 around Mulege.
That was the worst stretch of all Mex 1.
i.e. there will be a new cellphone tower on a tip across the river in Mulege.
i.e. around GroNegro you might face very tough 'Pandas' w/ radar guns these days.
They know that all Pi-Gringos are leaving North in a hurry as weather warms up here in La Paz and all BCS.
Take care guys!
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Anonymous if you gain so much info just by driving a stretch of Highway why would you not want to shear your rumorers with us. If you tell the truth
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This is very true about leasing land in Mexico. As said by all, READ your legalese and understand them!
For those of you that don?t have a clue what Fonatur is?..
Fonatur is Mexico?s national trust for the promotion of tourism. It has managed to mastermind the infrastructure behind modern tourism in Mexico by
developing some prime coastal real estate and encouraging foreign investment in its projects.
During its history, Fonatur has developed five of Mexico?s top beach resort areas?Cancun, Ixtapa, Los Cabos, Loreto, and the Bays of Huatulco.
Oh....and now recently has put San Felipe on the priroty list!
Anonymous .....I didn?t know that a formal notification from anyone(for swatters)was required!
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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the only guys ****** ****** are
>********** Leech and the head-chicken guy -Doug Means -running all this from CA.
*******: I was in Mulege for three days > changed money w/ you. Talked to my relatives > all mexicans.
None of them knew anything about any Ejido deal in Santispac.
Maybe you are picking up your knowledge from the street surface > ***********************.
The chicken-head guy (Means) was smart: cutting me out of Nomad > blocking.
Bull********: Just turn your router down and you got a new IP.
Hey Means > did you learn from the street surface as well?
Like ********?
But I did something on purpose: A mistake in typing:
EJIDADORES is a word I invented.
But you gringo guys ***********, wanting us Mexicans to learn English down here, right?
But this is Mexico.
You gotto learn Spanish, if you want to avoid of being bulled.
Thanx the Lord mots of the gringos are leaving now.
Hopefully some aren't coming back.
Baja belongs to Mexico!!!
[Edited on 6-4-2005 by BajaNomad]
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Touchy, Touchy.
If ones who leases land or homes in Mexico without a FM3 or better is crazy.
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Anonymous
the only guys ****** ****** are
>********** Leech and the head-chicken guy -Doug Means -running all this from CA.
*******: I was in Mulege for three days > changed money w/ you. Talked to my relatives > all mexicans.
None of them knew anything about any Ejido deal in Santispac.
Maybe you are picking up your knowledge from the street surface > ***********************.
The chicken-head guy (Means) was smart: cutting me out of Nomad > blocking.
Bull********: Just turn your router down and you got a new IP.
Hey Means > did you learn from the street surface as well?
Like ********?
But I did something on purpose: A mistake in typing:
EJIDADORES is a word I invented.
But you gringo guys ***********, wanting us Mexicans to learn English down here, right?
But this is Mexico.
You gotto learn Spanish, if you want to avoid of being bulled.
Thanx the Lord mots of the gringos are leaving now.
Hopefully some aren't coming back.
Baja belongs to Mexico!!!
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Ah Ha now I know who you are. I was right ******* ****** I cant believe they let you out again.
every one in Mulege Knows that that beach is owned by the Ejido
[Edited on 6-4-2005 by BajaNomad]
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Hey Anon, why don't you go to Fred's board if you want succinctness. Leave 'ol Bruce alone; we like what he has to say - even if it is somtimes about
something less than what you consider to be somthing.
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Joe Friday said what? "Just the facts Sir"!
Slimeball? And other Defamations of personalities? I am one of these Nomads that will impose my thoughts upon all when I feel they have incorrect
information in their postings or responses at the post(s). I will go back and forth with my viewpoints (with other Nomads) here. What I will never do
is call them a bunch of schoolyard names! These folks here are intelligent, experienced, and mostly decent (except one guy!)?. with their independent
and co-op views.
I advise you in intercept some readings from the legal laws of Mexico, for your benefit. ?Like most everybody who lives on Santispac Beach, I am a
squatter?. You may not get any notice! You Sir...are talking in your response without the facts that you may very depend on for being a swatter! "It
seems that a lot of people have nothing more to do than speculate and add to the confusion that already exists" HUN?! Walk you talk.
[Edited on 5-30-2005 by yankeeirishman]
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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people that post...
extremely lame **** and belittle others under the name "anonymous" are about as worthless as a boat in a dried up lake
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Hey Bruce and Edith....
Thanks for your help this weekend...glad you're there!!
My source say the deal is going thru....3 months
Things change....
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who is ready for the new El Gallito aeropuerto?
besides me...?! can't wait....paved 4000 ft. new taxiway with hangars. fuel. customs....migracion....the whole enchilada!
if/when they take Santispac they WILL do the airport, it's federally owned now. i just feel bad for Ray, but he'll probably tie in to something new on
the beach.
once they bring power down watch out for the lot values at Naranjas, Suenos et al!!
think i'll get busy and buy soon - hey Bob F., if you decide to cash in and start lot splits......count me in, and there's always Vic's place.........
the only constant is change.....
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"For what it's worth, according to today's Sudcaliforniano, tomorrow in La Paz there will be a meeting between representatives of Alfredo Bonfil Ejido
and FONATUR, to sign "intention" papers as the first step in the sale of 1000 hectares of Playa Santispac to that agency."
Uh-oh, Anon will not like to hear this.
I wonder how he will blame this on Pompano or Bruce?
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