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pokey
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I've always followed the officers in my truck to the police station. My experience with traffic tickets in baja is limited to Ensenada so I'm not
sure about other municipalities. There is ample parking at the Ensenada station to accomodate RV's. (if not at the station itself then on the
neighboring streets).
A few weeks ago I got a speeding ticket on Reforma. It cost 600 pesos and about an hour and a half of my time. The funniest part of the ordeal
was that the officer wanted to arrest me for having a folding branch pruning saw in the truck. Like I was going to go out and wreak havoc on the
fine people of Ensenada with a pruning saw.
Keep Mexico weird
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pokey
I've always followed the officers in my truck to the police station. |
Next time try following at 5 mph. (If you're in a playful mood and have some time to kill.  )
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yankeeirishman
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Never complain about fish tacos
To pay the fine, on the site of an infraction promotes corruption of the Mexican law. No matter how much of a hurry you may be in, no matter how much
you can afford to wiggle your way out of a hassle?go through the proper procedure to pay off your fines. Save the rest of us (in the future) the
ordeal of dealing with jerk off cops!
And?. never complain about the Fish Tacos or rude behavior of fellow Nomads to a Mexican Police Officer (as I did). No bribe in the world will help
you then!
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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Phil S
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Anyone reading happen to know the folks who are offering the membership for the SOS??? If so, let us know. I also am interested in this rear window
sign. Makes sense to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yankeeirishman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LaTijereta
I signed up for "SOS" (Support of Sinicatura), and they sent out a package of forms. Included is a list of all fines for various violations, and what
should be paid in front of a judge.
The decals they sent for the car was installed before our last trip down. Only instance I had was just north of Loreto when a PFD "highway patrol"
turned around and followed me for about 2 miles "right on my bummper". He had to be reading the decal "no alimentamos la corrupcion" He finnaly went around me smiling
Happy Trails.... |
Hey....I musta missed this post of yours. Great idea. Where did you get this material?
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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MrBillM
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Yanqui
So Solly (as Charlie Chan would say), but I will continue to promote and support the corruption of first level Mexican officials.
It is an old and venerated custom and far more convenient to my life style.
I feel that the money is better spent at that level in support of the Mexican and his family. To do otherwise simply makes that money available to
corrupt Mexican officials at a higher level in the chain and they're already getting enough through official channels.
Do whatever you wish, but I prefer to support the Little Guy.
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LaTijereta
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Sindicatura
The address to send for package:
SOS
7349 Milliken Ave. #140
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
Cost of package is $25, and they ship in (2) weeks.
Note: I am not part of this organization, but I have never supported "corrupcion" with the policia on the hwy.
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turtleandtoad
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Location: Wherever I park. See sig for current location.
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I don't believe this SOS has any connection with the Sinicatura in Mexico, at least I haven't been able to find one, but for $25, the info they supply
and the sticker may be worth it. SOS is also listed on the Vag website.
If you want to lodge a complaint against a corrupt official (including the cops) go to http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/. and click on "complaints" There is an english version for those that don't read/write Spanish.
Mike & Robin; Full-Time RV\'ers
37\' Georgetown w/3 slides & 275 Watts of Solar Power
06 Taco TRD
www.turtleandtoad.com
I am here
To paraphrase Frank Lloyd Wright; I\'m all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let\'s start with keyboards. --
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yankeeirishman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LaTijereta
The address to send for package:
SOS
7349 Milliken Ave. #140
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
Cost of package is $25, and they ship in (2) weeks.
Note: I am not part of this organization, but I have never supported "corrupcion" with the policia on the hwy. |
Thank you LaTijereta. I will order up tomorrow and see if this works (in the future).
I'll try to bribe em for a cheaper rate 
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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Baja&Back
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Location: Vancouver, Canada / todo de Baja
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Nobody has yet pointed out that if you pay a ticket at the station within 24 hours, the fine is cut in half! The regular fine is usually less than
what the cop asks for a bribe anyway.
Mexico's fulla bargains!! 
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja&Back
Nobody has yet pointed out that if you pay a ticket at the station within 24 hours, the fine is cut in half! The regular fine is usually less than
what the cop asks for a bribe anyway.
Mexico's fulla bargains!! |
Man, are you in for a surprise!
Say you get a speeding ticket on the toll road and they send your license to TJ:
First, you go to the station near the airport where you stand in line to get a copy of the infraction.
Next, you go to city hall where you stand in line while they research your driving record to make sure you don't have any other outstanding tickets.
Next, you stand in another line to pay the fine.
Then, you return to the station by the airport where they record your payment and return your license.
This can take the better part of a day.
Mexico may be full of bargains but this ain't one of them.
I'm with Bill. If you can, pay the mordida. ( That's the real bargain )
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greybaby
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Have to chuckle at all this. Last week we went to San Felipe with friends of ours who are nationals. One of them got a speeding ticket in SF and
they took his license. We asked him what he did about it. He said he didn't care about his license, would wait a month and go down and get another
one in Ensenada. When we mentioned that in the states all the computer information is linked throughout the states he laughed and said he doubted
Mexico was that sophisticated. He still had a driver's license from when he lived in another state and said he would just use that in the meantime.
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bigzaggin
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Baja cop interactions...
are one area where speaking Spanish is a HUGE advantage. On a number of occasions I've managed to eek my way out of a ticket/trip to the station once
the cops realized I understand every word they're saying and can argue in their native tongue. It frustrates the crap out of 'em and is always good
fun. The sole and consistent exception is in Ensenada proper where, if (when) you get busted, I would strongly reccommend going to the station,
keeping your mouth shut, and paying as instructed. I'm sure Rosarito is the same but if you get busted in Rosarito you're a marooon...for going to
Rosarito.
And what's more, even moderate fluency can save you a hellish search at the major checkpoints...simply engage your "agent" in some friendly
conversation a la, "Yeah, we're going to Ensenada to get laid with some hot chicks" or anything about hot chicks and sex and then offer the guy a
Coke. No really, it works.
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Bob H
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Registered: 8-19-2003
Location: San Diego
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Lots of info on SOS ?Support of Sindicatura? at this link...
http://campolorenzo.com/_wsn/page2.html
and here too
http://gringogazettenorth.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?...
Bob H
[Edited on 8-17-2005 by Bob H]
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Pops
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Here's the steeker
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jrbaja
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Too funny
I love the sign.
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BajaBoundMoto
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I've done the mordida thing quite a few times over the years because unfortunately it seems to always happen when you're in a time crunch (even if I'm
pretty certain I did nothing wrong) and I've also had yelling matches (with success) with cops when I absolutely KNOW I'm in the right and I've also
talked nicely and wormed my way out of 'em.
BUT in '04, driving thru TJ, before the big hill, on the way to Sur last Nov. we got stopped for "speeding" which was total BS.
We were a good 'mark' for the guy - going down for the 1000 with 2 xr650's, brand new full size crewcab....
I argued with that cop telling him how wrong he was and I wouldn't let him have my licence.
He told me that to pay the fine now (he wanted $50) would be less than at the station but I was RIGHT and told him to pound sand. I know someone on
here will tell me I shouldn't argue with them, you can keep that to your self. I don't push the envelope that far.
So he read my licence (while it was in my hand), handed me a ticket and told me to go pay it at the station. Then he just sped away on his cop bike!
This is where it get's interesting...
The ticket was all in English. It had full directions how to send payment from the US and even a list of fines costs with the most expensive being
about $65.
I've never seen one of these so I was really interested and wanted to see it thru the correct way.
I had no idea where the TJ station was so I drove into downtown and asked some cabbies.
We found the place, barely found a spot large enough to park (actually it was in the cops reserved area) and went inside to a little window to pay.
Crap! It was $150 for "speeding"!!
"TurtleAndToad" - there is no place to park anything with a trailer at that station. This station was only about 12 blocks due south
from the big uphill.
Oh well, live and learn.
[Edited on 8-18-2005 by BajaBoundMoto]
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jrbaja
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Thanks for that Baja Bound
Real life stories are much more useful than armchair advice!
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bajalou
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What was printed on the ticket about "Speeding" You said the highest was $65. What was that (probably don't remember - OK I understand that)
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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turtleandtoad
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Thanks for the info BajaBound,
I don't think I'll ever need to worry about a ticket in TJ though. I never go through there for that very reason! I use the Tecate crossing and take
Mex-3 to Ensenada. Same way coming back.
Mex 3 is a nice and scenic drive, the crossing is a lot faster, and Tecate is a nice, laid back town if you want to stop and do some first/last minute
shopping.
I'm curous, was the fines in dollars or peso's?
And did the people in the cop shop have any explanation as to why the fine was higher than what was printed on the ticket?
Mike & Robin; Full-Time RV\'ers
37\' Georgetown w/3 slides & 275 Watts of Solar Power
06 Taco TRD
www.turtleandtoad.com
I am here
To paraphrase Frank Lloyd Wright; I\'m all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let\'s start with keyboards. --
Mike Dean |
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