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capt. mike
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LaTijereta - very nice pics, and that clear agua.....get me there.
MRChuck - how long is a "super" Diaz? yours looks bigger but it is nice!
[Edited on 8-28-2005 by capt. mike]
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mrchuck
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To: Mike Supino,,, security of anchored boats here in Las Palmas bay has never been a problem. Just too many boats out there with a whole lot of
people watching.
Ignition keys hidden, compartments locked, and scoped rifles.
I know of 2 hombres, over these many years here, that were caught thieving, and the life was almost literally beat out of them by boat crews and also
the authorities too. Both felt that finally being locked up, saved their lives.
Every year, equipment gets taken off some gringo boat by breaking into it, almost always anchored in the Pemex arroyo area.
Capt Mike. My Dias Super Panga is 23' 6'' long centerline w/o the 2' bow pulpit, as
all Diaz pangas are.
History of panga mfg in Baja:
The whole Lupe Diaz family was transported to La Paz, from Mazatlan, in the mid 70's by Max and Mary Schoyer, who owned and developed and operated the
Marina de La Paz.
Max saw the need for a company to fabricate and build cruisers and pangas here in BCS. The Diaz family were legendary. They continued building and
repairing all types of fiberglass boats brought in La Paz until 1989. The cruiser construction business was sold to another buyer who continued to
build "ARCA" cruisers and pangas till 2001.
Presently, no cruiser construction or pangas being made in La Paz.
The Diaz family with an investor from Loreto, built their own panga factory in La Paz in 1989, out on the Los Planes highway. Their first pangas
started rolling out in Jan 1990. No cruiser construction.
This panga construction continued until July 1995 when the plant was closed and sold due to management problems and investor dis-satisfaction.
Lupe moved the works to Los Barriles, behind the Palmas de Cortez Hotel in 1997, and with Hotel investment started repairing all types of fishing
cruisers and boats of all types.
In 1998, Lupe introduced his NEW panga design, which has a much more flared bow design and 6 inches wider. Still 23'6" in length. This is the panga of
today.
Lupe has also constructed two 29 foot fishing cruisers, which are ready to launch now.
They are beautiful!, and hope they become popular.
The new panga line covers everything from basic commercial models to full blown super pangas, like mine.
Note, any old panga made by the "Diaz family" ,was made with the finest of materials and workmanship, and can be re-furbished to be exactly like it
just came out of the factory.
The price of older pangas has held up accordingly, as they are purchased and re-outfitted and put back in the water for further years of safe
enjoyment.
Hope this helps,,,,,,Saludos,,,,mc
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Pescador
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I am drooling all over the picture of Mr. Chuck's Super Panga. I spent several days with Lupe Diaz at his factory and even looked at several used
boats. The new boats were just out of reach for what I wanted to spend and a couple of the used boats were either tired or had some problems that
needed to be addressed with piles of money. So I kept looking for what we wanted as the "perfect" fishing boat for baja. We are ecstatic with our
new Quintrex 190 Legend. This is a formed aluminum boat built in Australia that is called the aluminum Boston Whaler. It is one of the few aluminum
boats that is built to stay upright in the case of sinking. The hull is almost 1/4" thick and called a millenium design which is the driest boat of
anything I have ever ridden on even in the chop and heavy water. There is a heavy entry flare which blows the water away and down on wave entry and
then a heavy flared bow has something that resembles a inch or so lapstrake which further diverts the water away. Even on those nasty quartering seas
with heavy wind, we did not even have to pull the rods in from the side platforms as they stayed dry. The keel is a solid 1 1/2 inch piece of
aluminum which runs the entire length of the boat. This also gives a lot of directional stability on quartering down wave. Unlike the Baja
Bayrunner, Klamath, and Gregor boats which have a tendency to slide on a wave and then jerk with a violent direction change when the nose enters the
next wave, this boat holds a stable hands off steering even when quartering. It comes standard with hydraulic steering which really makes a day of
fishing seem less tiring. The center console has two latches on the side and the instrument panel folds over forward to allow access to wiring and
instrumentation. Mine came with a 115 Yamaha 4 stroke which gives some real impressive economy of operation. Because the boat is lighter than
comparitive glass boats, it is on the step almost immediately and we go from our place in San Lucas Cove to Tortuga (over 25 miles), fish all day
(trolling, etc) and still use less than 10 gallons for the day. While the boat came with a smaller livewell, we added a 25 gallon Kodiak bait tank so
we can run both tanks if we have mackeral in one and anchovies or sardines in the other.
The beam is 7'2" which makes a really stable platform in heavy seas and we find her a really comfortable boat in the soup.
More info on http://www.quintrexboats.com
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capt. mike
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I'll be in los Barriles on a land scout oct and plan to visit the Diaz works, very excited.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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soulpatch
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Here's my little toy. It gets me and my wife around but we will be upgrading a bit in the next two years. Don't think I'll sell her, though.... such a
great boat. I've customized her a bit and she's a nice ride. I've had her in the Pacific in some good wind swell w/my buddy in his identical boat
about a 1/4 mile apart and us cruising same speed the 20 miles back up to Punta Banda and his boat handling the air off the top just fine. It seemed
"Soul Patch" was doing the same. Nothing like a 6-8' windchop..... Always prepared to hit the beach and camp it out, though, if it's called for,
although my friends w/larger boats say I have no business on the ocean w/that tin cup..... haven't had to overnight on a beach yet but I err on the
side of caution.
[Edited on 8-29-2005 by soulpatch]
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soulpatch
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Somebody needs to resize a pic so I don't have to scroll back and forth. It's sheer laziness, of course.
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Frank
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Hey soulpatch nice boat. I have a 22' trophy I fish in San Diego and a 14' tin for Baja. I have way more fun in my Tin then I do in my Trophy. I can
feel the ocean currents and even the temp breaks through the floor. I just feel more connected, Im sure you know what Im talking about. Ill never
sell the tin.
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soulpatch
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He Frank,
we've U2U'd before and I am interested in hooking up w/you. Get it! I could pretend I know what you're talking about but I've only been fishing a few
years so I have a lot of learning to do. Anyway, do you surf? I am going to start hitting the point in my boat shortly for some uncrowded waves and
maybe bounce a few split tails off the bottom to see what hits.....I have a fair amount of time off during the week. Hell, you could motor out w/me
and drop me off to fish while I surfed and we could split the proceeds. Now that would be a laugh! I work out in your neck of the woods but am living
here in OB. Of course, I'm old , 43 Tuesday.
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Skipjack Joe
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That's a fine boat, soulpatch. I have one just like it. The advantages in its versatility far surpass the advantages of the bigger boats. For the
norteamericanos who reside in baja I can see the advantage of a larger boat. But for those of us who want to explore the entire
peninsula the smaller boats are the way to go. The pros and cons had been discussed previously.
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soulpatch
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Hey there Skipjack, that's some serious ocean to be on up there in HMB. I really don't ever see me getting rid of my small boat, I'm just going to
have to get another for when my kids are little older. Now that's a dilemna, 2 boats? 
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Bajame
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Big Deal! I have a Lime Green kayak and runs with no gasoline!
We all want a peaceful world, filled with love and laughter, but we fill ourselves with anger and hate trying to fiqure out how to achive it.
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Skipjack Joe
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small boat versatility
Consider this:
1. I fish Davis Lake to trout in my 14' Gregor.
2. I fish the Hunter Liggett bass ponds by launching it through the weeds.
3. I fish the Sacramento River shad runs in May from same boat.
4. I fish nearshore rockfish at Half Moon Bay during the calm months Aug-Nov.
5. I fish baja's pacific coast by launching over the beach.
6. I fish baja's pacific lagoons by launching near the mangroves.
You get the idea. The list is endless. One boat fits all, almost all. Sure, I'd like to haul butt to Tortuga for sailfish like the others. It's a
compromise. I fished alaska this summer for the first time in my life. They were renting these same kind of tin boats at Seward to fish salmon in the
bay.
I know what you mean about the kids growing up. Mine is 9 now and it's not as roomy as when he was 5. When he gets a bit older the change will be from
14' with 15hp to a 15' with 25hp. That's all.
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pangamadness
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My friends Panga
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Don Jorge
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My Baja boats: 20 'panga, sold it, 20' Seacraft, turtled it while on the can at Leonero and sold it on the spot, 22' Kencraft and now my 26'
Blackman. Have a Bertram 28 I just bought and am restoring to leave here for when I leave the Blackman down in Loreto Starting in November. Probably
leave the Bertam at the Coral for the summers.
We brought our Blackman back from the Coral last week to fish striped marlin for the next 5 weeks and then lobster season starts!
�And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry
years. It was always that way.�― John Steinbeck
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The first Pangas were designed and Built by "Mac" Shroyur in La Paz in the location where the current "Cota" Store is located, later Mac moved over to
a larger Location.
Mac was a High School Teacher in La Jolla. He was ask and later made a Deal with the mexican Govt. to build a boat that would take 2,000 lbs of Fish
through the pacific Surf. with a 40 HP Motor thus was Born the Panga
The govt. would and did sell or consign a Boat to any fisherman who would then agree to pay a certain amount of his catch to the Govt. agency/Agent
such as Gloria Davis Benzigers Father. He was the Banker, he set up the fisherman,bought their catch, collected 10% of the catch for himself.
I am not sure of the Date of the First Panga but they were built with no stringers in the Bottom.
When I ordered mine, the fisherman around Loreto told me they were having some trouble with bottom cracking,so my Panga was the first with
stringers{1976]
when things slowed down for Building Pangas, Mac put his time into the marina.
His story would make a good Book.
Skeet/Loreto
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capt. mike
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Jorge, love those Blackman boats, i went to his small factory in san diego. class business, pay a deposit and get in line.....some day maybe.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
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Skeet/Loreto
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Capt. Mike: Why do you not buy yourself a commanche 400 , a Panga , then you could fly Faster and Higher to Mulege to go Fishbg.
P.S. I know where there is a "400' for sale, needss some work. Are you intrested.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Pomp: I would bet that if someone cracked your skull, little P------y would fly out and smother us ole Farts.!!!
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Pompano
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aha..the Panga.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Pompano
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a little beefier...
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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