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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 12:01 PM
You can test your radio all you want Al


the EPIRB will work anywhere on the planet and you can be sure, someone will come looking to see where the signal is coming from!
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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 12:07 PM


Oh, I forgot, he also brings his handheld GPS, but it's not primarily for safety.;D Very cold water here yearround 48-52 degrees warm.:lol:
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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 12:11 PM


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EPIRB stands for Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon




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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 12:12 PM


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Al G: one of your most important safety items is your anchor. Make sure you know how to use it properly! and that you have plenty of rode that is in a good condition. It is a good idea to have a back-up, but you might be pressed for room. I have three on my boat and two spare rodes.

Another thing you might think about getting is a ditch bag. These are pretty cheap. They float and are water resistant. You put all your basic survival gear in it: portable VHF, extra batteries, flares, water, sun screen, small first aid kit, etc. ACR makes a good one, and you can order them from the web.

JZ Is this what you are refering to?
http://www.acrelectronics.com/rapidditch/rapidexpair.html
will it air up?
Please explain More about the anchor. I have used them alot in the Delta (Sacramento River), but not sure what you mean.
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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 12:21 PM


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I can guarantee that Al knows how to anchor after boating in the Delta, if you don't anchor correctly you end up on a berm.




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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 12:24 PM


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EPIRB stands for Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon. When activated it transmits a signal of your location to satelites on a frequency that is monitored world-wide (including by the Mexican Navy). Newer ones come with build-in GPSs. They cost about a grand.

Yes, a survival suit is for cold water.

They must be be for longer range use where marine raido can not reach.
Not that I intend to test it:no:, but how far can one expect marine radio to reach?


EPIRB's are for emergency only. They work anywhere in the world and all countries have landsat stations monitoring them. They (or at least most of them) are mounted in such a manner that they will release automatically when a vessel goes under and float to the surface. They then transmit your position (some will also transmit the vessels name, owner, contact phone number, etc) to the satellite, which in turn transmits the distress signal to the authorities.

So, unless you want to draw a crowd (and pay a big fine), don't even think about "testing" an EPIRB!!

As to the range of marine radios, it depends on the frequency, how well the transeiver is matched to the antenna (SWR), and whether it's digital or analog (among other things). Marine radios are fine for general communications but I wouldn't rely on them for emergencies unless they meet SOLAS (Safety Of Life At Sea, an international agreement) for the area you're in.




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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 12:32 PM


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I can guarantee that Al knows how to anchor after boating in the Delta, if you don't anchor correctly you end up on a berm.

Comitan,
I thought he was going to tell me if all was lost wrap it around my neck and get it over with! :lol::lol::lol:




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http://www.medicalofficer.net/index_files/Page2399.htm
I found this, so if there is someone out there that needs as much help as I do:)




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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 12:48 PM


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After many years boating in the Baja, The most important to me is the VHF radio you should never be out of radio range with a tin boat, and as someone said before water, personally I also have a box with canned sardines, crackers, also first aid kit with something to cut a hook out of you,this is very important I know!!! You know the rest fire ext. life jackets. an EPIRB is used mostly on offshore yachts.




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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 12:49 PM


Smart info TNT. You are also correct about proper antenna trimming. It makes ALL the difference.
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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 02:19 PM


Not sure about the Mexican regs, but as a retired Coastie who did a lot of boardings and inspections, I can assure you that, in the US, all vessels that carry passengers for hire ARE required to have EPIRB's. Along with any inspected vessel and a lot of uninspected vessels.

I'm going to have to read up on the Mexican regs but I believe they are very similar. Whether they are as strictly enforced is another question.




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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 02:22 PM


Pompano,

I think I spent some time in that same motel :o




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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 03:04 PM


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I don't think you will find any reg's for EPIRB on vessels for hire in Mexico, there are many boats for hire fishing Pangas they do not have EPIRB's it would be cost prohibitive for them.




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Ships, Thats the one!!! I was there in the late 70's and that pier was falling down then. I just spent one night, waiting for a chopper to take me out to the cutter Boutwell and was glad to have it just to get out of the wind.



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JZ Is this what you are refering to?
http://www.acrelectronics.com/rapidditch/rapidexpair.html
will it air up?
Please explain More about the anchor. I have used them alot in the Delta (Sacramento River), but not sure what you mean.
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That is it. It doesn't air up. It will float as is. You should also have a cheap hand held GPS in it, so you can give your exact location.

I have an ERIPB, sense I go way out of VHF range. But for what you are doing, it would be overkill.

VHF is light of sight, the distant you can transmit is most dependend on the height of the antenna's. There is rough formula using antenna height that gives you approximate distance. The antenna's at marina's in San Carlos and Santa Rosalia have good distance. Crossing from Baja to the mainland you have radio contact with one of these two stations almost the whole way across (from a fixed mounted VHF).

With a hand held you could probably expect range of 3 to 5 miles with another boat, and maybe more with people on land.

Regarding anchoring, I was taking about knowing how to put out the correct amount of scope and how to correctly set it.

[Edited on 9-4-2005 by JZ]
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I don't think you will find any reg's for EPIRB on vessels for hire in Mexico, there are many boats for hire fishing Pangas they do not have EPIRB's it would be cost prohibitive for them.


Yeah, I kind of figured that, pangas are kind of a Mexican thing, not many running around in the US. And I bet they don't have to worry about Maritime papers, business licenses, withholding taxes, or health plans either :lol:

But I did notice a lot of the smaller charter boats (probably US owned) in Cabo had them. The fly fishing charters that I looked at had them.

Could also be a case of selective enforcement, the Cabo charters can afford them but I doubt if the panga's in Mulege could. So they enforce it in Cabo but not in Mulege??




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[*] posted on 9-4-2005 at 03:24 PM


A little note about tin cans.... DO NOT buy a rivetted hull, only welded. Those rivets will pop out left and right in rough water or washboard roads on the trailer.

Pick and choose your days and you can go as far as fuel will allow in a tin can.
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Turtleandtoad...the epirbs are great for finding the remains up here....unfortunately not in time if you remember how cold the water is over at Dutch Harbor.

[Edited on 9-4-2005 by Pompano]


Actually, we normally always found the EPIRB, but remains were mostly of the vessel, not the crew; especially during Opilio Crab season. When one of those boats roll over, there's not much left to find.




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"Good place to start is boatraderonline.com You will find many thousands."
Thanks Pompano,
I'll check it out.
I also want say thanks to all the fishing Nomads, the help has come so fast I am having a difficult time digesting all and responding. I want you all to know how I appreciate all of you.:bounce: When I get to meet you the Pacifico will flow.:yes::yes::yes:
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[*] posted on 9-5-2005 at 10:10 AM


"Here ya go, Al...might consider a re-paint, though. "
I'll take it as long as the wife doesn't own a gun!:o
He may need it to sleep in:lol::lol:




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