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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Remember I was telling you guys about Antonio (BajaCactus/ El Rosario Pemex owner) working like crazy to meet the latest demands by Pemex to upgrade
pumps???
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So you are the prophet that put the profecia seals 
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Bruce R Leech
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the way I understand the story in Santa Rosalia is that there was a man filling a 60 liter barrel and the pump gave him 80 liters. a fight soon
fallowed and as soon as they were getting really hot Prefects men pulled in right behind them and took over the situation
what timing, what luck I wish I could have seen it
Bruce R Leech
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tehag
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gas
Be nice to see some ripple effect in Loreto; they get 6.3 liters into a gallon can here.
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Pompano
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I think the first time I checked fuel amounts at Pemex stations was in 1961....many 'adjustments' since then have not changed the facts. Do I worry
about it?...Nope. Do I have fun with a 20 liter container at the Mulege station?...Yup.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tehag
Be nice to see some ripple effect in Loreto; they get 6.3 liters into a gallon can here. |
You mean this guy is getting more brazen ? Last time they put 23 liters in my 5 gallon ( 19 liter ) can. Never could believe that cab drivers and the
like let these owners get away with this.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by tehag
Be nice to see some ripple effect in Loreto; they get 6.3 liters into a gallon can here. |
You mean this guy is getting more brazen ? Last time they put 23 liters in my 5 gallon ( 19 liter ) can. Never could believe that cab drivers and the
like let these owners get away with this. |
Come to think of it, maybe that's why a cab ride to Nopolo is $20.00 one way. 
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David K
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Gracias Antonio for the details... I guess my hunch (speculation) was correct!
I think I can speak for many of the Nomads in saying how much we appreciate having you here on Baja Nomad. For many of the campers that travel Baja,
Pemex is where most of the money is spent in Baja.
Good luck in dealing with Pemex and the government in keeping your El Rosario station operating! 
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaCactus
Pemex Gas Stations....
Thought I gave you a better idea of what is happening.
There are very specialized units in the government, formed by members of Profeco and Pemex.
Profeco is a government agency that regulates the honest operation of businesess in Mexico.
Pemex, you all know, is the government department that produces and supply all fuel in Mexico.
These units make special visits, randomly, all around the Pemex gas stations in Mexico, their visits are unannounced, and usually sweep a specific
area at one time and then move to other parts of the country.
Well, these revisions (called "Volantas Profeco-Pemex")... are empowered to check all the operations process of a gas station, but they mainly focus
on checking the "size" of the liters dispensed at the pumps and the internal processes of keeping inventories.
If they do not approve of something, they have the power to shut down the gas station.
A couple of hours ago (right now is 10:46 pm, march 16th), I talked to my family in Santa Rosalia and they told me the gas station is completely shut
down... and that there is a lot of confussion there, because this is the only supply of fuel in town.
As how long it will take to be open again... well it depends on the reason for the shutdown, and how fast the owner approaches the solution... it can
take from a couple of days to several months.
Since there is no other gas station there, it is my believe they will try to make a fast compromise to begin operations again.
I hope this gives you a new perspective my friends.
Antonio M.
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neilm
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I've had pretty good luck....
since I started using a locking gas cap and paying in pesos... I make sure the pump says 'cero' before I unlock, and take care of currency
conversion at the bank.
but there's little defense against a bad-calibrated pump
| Quote: | Originally posted by Marinero
I know that the scammers are clever and think up new stuff all the time. But the drivers aren't dumb either. There must be a routine we could follow
to make sure they can't get in our pants....er, wallets.
Has anybody suggested something? Such as asking for an exact amount of liters or so many pesos worth? I know this won't avoid crooked pump meters,
but seems we should try. Having said that, I have only bought gas in my town and never have driven down the length of Baja. How about some advice
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rpleger
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In Muleg?, if they would just force the owner to sell one of the stations......the competition should provide fair prices.
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*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
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Bob and Susan
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Richard...
i think all gas prices are regulated by the government and all gas prices are the same in Baja...
there is no competition necessary.
it really should be like this in the USA...we wouldn't get screwed every holiday week
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rpleger
In Muleg?, if they would just force the owner to sell one of the stations......the competition should provide fair prices. |
Fair PRACTICES perhaps... ie. not screwing with the pump calibration or cheating on giving change, etc.
As Bob and Susan say, the price is set by government.
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Bob and Susan
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Electronic pump calibration will soon stop the cheating...
It will be like trying to fix your new toyota pu
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
Electronic pump calibration will soon stop the cheating...
It will be like trying to fix your new toyota pu |
Good thing Toyota never needs fixing!
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
Electronic pump calibration will soon stop the cheating...
Like..when /
This morning in Loreto, they again managed to put 23 liters in my 19 liter cans. This Santa Rosalia business doesn't seem to bother our local crook
owner any |
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bajalou
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Not all gas is priced the same in Mexico.
The IVA on the fuel is higher in mainland Mex. than in Baja Calif. so the end price is higher.
Looks like they are still adjusting the price in border towns to compete with USA prices. Higher in Mexicali than Ej. Durango and San Felipe - almost
a peso a liter difference.
No Bad Days
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
Electronic pump calibration will soon stop the cheating...
Like..when /
This morning in Loreto, they again managed to put 23 liters in my 19 liter cans. This Santa Rosalia business doesn't seem to bother our local crook
owner any |
I wonder...can a Pemex station get new pumps that do not have electronic pump calibration? I'm thinking about the new station on Padre Kino.
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Bajame
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they cheated me along with a few others by saying that the pump shut off and he wanted me to check and see if it was full and when I said it was only
half full he put the 0 amount and started again. Wasn't sure what he was doing but some said he was taking me.
We all want a peaceful world, filled with love and laughter, but we fill ourselves with anger and hate trying to fiqure out how to achive it.
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Bruce R Leech
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still closed here in Mulege I don't know about Santa Rosalia.
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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comitan
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Santa Rosalia was pumping gas yesterday according to George & Tioga.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
Electronic pump calibration will soon stop the cheating...
It will be like trying to fix your new toyota pu |
Good thing Toyota never needs fixing! |
keep your fingers crossed David because when they do and they do it will cost you 4 times that of repairs on a Ford
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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