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Bob and Susan
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8813
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Mulege BCS on the BAY
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Mood: Full Time Residents
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get a temp 10 year import permit....like a boat...~$50
it will be worthless in 10 years anyway
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oladulce
Super Nomad
Posts: 1625
Registered: 5-30-2005
Location: bcs
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I certainly agree with B & S- it depends which way the wind is blowing down at the DMV.
We have a dune buggy built in '74 that would be exempt from smog. When we bought it in '92, for some reason the model year year was changed to '92.
It's been in Baja for 10 years and I changed it to "non-op" status since there was no way to get the smog and it only goes to the beach and dump (and
has ? of a brake, caught on fire, key is stuck in the ignition etc).
I heard there was a new cop in Pta. Peque?a checking regs. so I went to the San Clemente DMV 2 months ago and showed them one of the old registrations
that proved the buggy was actually a '74 and wanted to change it back to "operational" status so I could get tags.
They checked the manuals and consulted with each other and decided that in order to return the vehicle to "operational" status, I'd have to get a smog
check. Then, because it was so old they could make it "smog EXEMPT"???
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MrBillM
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 21656
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Out and About
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Mood: It's a Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah Day
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DMV Tribulations
I was interested to learn that I was correct in that the DMV exemption for vehicles garaged in Mexico (legally) no longer exists despite the fact that
some have been granted that exemption.
For years (in the 90s) I enjoyed that exemption on a Nissan Sentra I owned. I mentioned that exemption to a friend and he went down to the DMV to get
one for a vehicle he owned that would not smog. He came back with paperwork showing that the exemption no longer applied to cars garaged in Mexico or
Nevada.
Strangely, I never received any notice on the Sentra and kept receiving the exemption until I finally junked out the car. Perhaps there was a
"Grandfather" clause (?) Or the DMVs usual level of competence simply didn't figure it out. I refrained from questioning the status. Why bring it
to their attention ?
One of my (many) past experiences with DMV logic involved a 10' folding PORTABOAT that I had purchased years earlier to use as a tender behind my
sailboat. When I leased a mooring ball in San Diego Bay, I decided that I'd better register the Portaboat. Went down to the DMV, explained that I
had never registered it because I wasn't using a motor until now. OK, Fine, but I had to pay the penalties for not registering it within the required
time frame (10 days ?). I explained that, under California law, any boat 10 feet or shorter using manual propulsion or sail, is not required to be
registered so I had not been tardy. NO WAY. The gal insisted that penalties were due. I asked for the manager. Same result. At my insistence, he
then looked up the referenced codes, agreeing that I was correct. However, it turned out that there was NO WAY that they could get the DMV computer
to accept it. He finally changed my purchase date to put me within the required time frame.
The penalties were only $5.00 and I spent close to an additional hour at DMV to avoid paying it. I'm like a dog with a bone sometimes, I guess.
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jerry
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Posts: 1354
Registered: 10-10-2003
Location: loreto
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from the was your treated elizabeth id agree your a dog mr bill
jerry and judi
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Keri
Super Nomad
Posts: 1393
Registered: 10-31-2002
Location: La Mision, Baja Norte
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Mood: muy contento
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I tried to get the exemption for my car.
I filled out the form told them the car was in San Quintin a 10 hr drive and mailed it in with insurance papers.They sent it back with the nev/mex
section highlighted. Told me no deal. After talking to someone that does this all the time I rewrote a new form and sent it in again claiming extreme
hardship which I did in the first one also.. They sent it back again and said I had to smog it and change the address to mex. . I'm taking it in Tues
to get it smogged. . Seems for the dmv it is how the wind blows. It seems to be blowing up my skirt.k
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bajalou
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4459
Registered: 3-11-2004
Location: South of the broder
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I'm sure glad I have a P.O.Box (private) IN Calexico - no periodic smog checks required in Imperial County (and several others). $25 a year and none
of the headaches like some of you have.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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oxxo
Banned
Posts: 2347
Registered: 5-17-2006
Location: Wherever I am, I'm there
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Mood: If I was feeling any better, I'd be twins!
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the plot thickens
Well, here is a new twist to the auto registration two step. I just received this note from a friend who lives in San Jose del Cabo. I think it is
self explanatory. I do keep a car in Los Cabos year round but I will make the effort to have it smogged anyway because it is good for the environment
everywhere.
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Tell the DMV to check further in their rules & regulations , as Cabo, Baja
Sur is exempt because it further than 1000 miles from the border.
I had to also ask them to pursue this, as the counter personnel are not
aware of this law, but I did get the exemption without driving my car up to
California (I changed ownership at that time as well).
HERE IS A MESSAGE FROM A HOMEOWNER TO VERIFY WHAT I AM SAYING"
The way to register your vehicle without taking it to the U.S. is as
follows:
From the DMV get the form - Miscellaneous Statement of Facts -
Fill out the top front with the vehicle ID - License# - Year
On the back side of the form at the bottom - State that the vehicle is
located in San Jose Del Cabo Baja California Sur - BCS
The form states that this is for every where except Mexico and Arizona, but
have the DMV look it up in there book and it will state that Baja Sur
qualifies.
Also you have to have U.S auto insurance, so have your Broker give you
insurance certificate for several days while you register your vehicle and
then cancel it. Usually a small charge or TAKE PROVE OF YOUR CURRENT MEXICAN
INSURANCE..
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bajaguy
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
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Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja
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INSURANCE ISSUE
Many states require that if an auto insurance policy is cancelled, the insurance company must notify DMV. In Nevada, this was done electronically with
the insurance company sending the cancelled policy VIN to DMV....who would then cancel the vehicle registration. A hefty reinstatement fee and penalty
would then follow when renewal was due.
Now Nevada just has you sign a form that states you will maintain insurance while the registration is valid.....wouldn't want to chance not having
valid insurance though.
I don't know if Nevada would accept "Mexican" insurance.
[Edited on 2-25-2007 by bajaguy]
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BajaWarrior
Super Nomad
Posts: 2307
Registered: 9-27-2006
Location: Mission Bay, San Diego. Playa Hermosa, San Felipe.
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Mood: Anxious to get south
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I know, bringing up an old post here, but...
went to the DMV to try to get the liscense paid on my 88' Toyota 4x4 that has been in Baja for about 12 years on a non-operational certificate that is
an unbelievable $5 until you no longer want to go non-op.
12 years ago I swore that the vehicle would be stored at my home address in San Diego, but the slacker that I am I took it to Baja instead.
Well, for some reason I want to get legal, so I went to the DMV with the Toyota paperwork, my lease agreement, my FM-3 and even a map of Baja to try
to get the smog exclusion so I don't have to bring it up every two years for a smog on a Baja truck that only recieves about 1000 miles a year. I
know, your saying then just smog it, well, she's a little tired and wont pass smog these days, it's just a beater that starts every time.
They told me the cut-off for milage from the border is 600 miles.
So, since the vehicle does reside in Baja and will never be back home as a daily driver, I am going with the Green Sticker like on a ATV or dunebuggy.
It just can't be towed on the ground but it can ride on a flatbed trailer/car hauler (which I just happen to own) just like an ATV or dunebuggy. BUT,
I'm legal, it will be currently registered and that satifies Mexican law. (got turned around at New Mexicali border for non current registration after
bringing it back down after maintenence at home, just went to old border, got right in)
In order to do this I have to surrender the plates and ownership title to the DMV and they will issue me a new ownership title as a Toyota Off Road
Use Vehicle and that will be $25 per every two years registration cost.
That's the route I'm taking.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Bajafun777
Super Nomad
Posts: 1103
Registered: 9-13-2006
Location: Rosarito & California
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Mood: Enjoying Life with Wife In Mexico, Easy on The Easy
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Even though I like California the laws are just getting too far out there. California keeps trying to find ways to always get fines, fees, and
assessments on property or against their citizens at higher rates than other states. California wants to help everyone and then tax the hell out of
the 1/3 that work, as this allows others sit on their butts at home. It just bugs me that they could work but choose not to because of lame excuses.
I have worked a long time in County Government and see where we just keep allowing people to misuse the system because we don't want to be told we
have no feelings for people. I do not mind giving a hand up but do like having to keep giving a hand out again and again, as then it becomes an
entitlement. Got a little off subject but if you have to go to a DMV office in Imperial County the one is Brawley is usually faster. It is on east
main street and once you get through right next to DMV is a Mexican Cafe called Christina's and the food is great. Pay the fees at DMV and at least
eat at a place that knows how to cook Mexican food the right way. Later-------bajafun777
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