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[*] posted on 8-20-2006 at 11:12 AM


Barry my son has an X-Terra and he likes it a lot. However with 3 kids and a wife it's a little small. I gave him my old 91 chevy 4x4 extended car with 230,000 miles to help out.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 12:02 AM
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I always remembera certain trip to Mulege in the late 60s. A buddy drove his Land Cruiser. It had sooooo many probs and it cost us a huge amount of time to keep him afloat. That probably did it for me for ever on them. Of course they are a decent ride or better nowadays.
In re to the point about DK leasing his Baja ride, well I find that interesting in many respects but I wasn't really trolling. I would think other like-minded folks may be thinking about leasing and DK is obviously in-the-know about that subect. David did answer a question.:yes:




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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 07:08 AM


I have found That if cars are maintained properly and not beat to death they will last a long time. i am on my second jeep cherokee the 87 had a little over 250.00 and my 2000 is turning 80,000 and neither has ever let me down,, i plan in the next year to get a honda element , awd just for the versitility and the economy, it is the closest thing i can find to the old vw mini bus and with awd should work good. i have no need for a large vehicle and if i have to i can sleep comfortably in one also i have never bought a new car usually one with 30,000 or so miles .

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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 07:28 AM


If you plan on keeping a vehicle a long time it's better to buy. If you plan on changing often, evey three years or so, it's cheaper to lease. However with the milage that DK puts on a truck it would seem to cost a lot . Most leases have a 12,000-15,000 per year milage limit. What is your lease based on DK.

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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 07:58 AM


Tom, there is NO milage penalty if I buy or lease another Toyota. So, it is a good thing I liked my first one and it was so flawless.

The trade in value is lower due to the high milage, but that is the only negative. Besides, what is the vehicle for... to sit in the garage? NO! It is for driving!!! It is my ONLY vehicle, and as I drive about 50-100 miles a day in my irrigation business, Baja trips aren't the only reason I put 3 years of miles on in just one year!

I agree buying is better... the only reason to lease is to lower the monthly payments to something I can afford as I didn't have a huge down payment available.




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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 07:46 PM


I'm have to ask

....David, just how many miles did you put on the old one? It just amazes me how many miles people put on cars these days.... I bought the T-Bird in '91 with 32k on it, and when I sold it last week it had 147000k......Never even had a tune-up, never needed it!




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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 08:02 PM


Sharks:

I've also wondered about leasing (asked DK about it years ago myself) What I decided from his explanation made sense for him (and many others) high miles driven, don't have a trade-in or big cash for a down payment.......For me, I can't stand a car payment (I broke out in hives when I financed the T-Bird, paid it off in 1 1/2 yrs.) I also tend to keep it a car FOREVER! (my brothers make fun of me!) Guess it's one of those Mars/Venus things, men seem to need different and new, women like old and comfortable. :lol: :lol: :lol:




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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 08:05 PM
Oh oh-----Now you have done it, Debra


----I own 5 vehicles, the newest being a 1997, the oldest being a 1969, so there!!!! and they are all paid for.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 08:34 PM


Yes Barry, thanks for reminding me (men also seem to need several ;)

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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 08:45 PM
Yes, Debra you are right, this time-----


each of my vehicles fills a different nitch, and they are all ABSOLUTELY necessary!!!!! :tumble:
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[*] posted on 8-21-2006 at 08:51 PM


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[*] posted on 8-22-2006 at 07:13 AM


Speaking of Toyota, the Camry on Monday made it's first offical on track appearance for Nascar at Michigan International Speedway. Bill Elliot, Michael Waltrip and Dave Blaney drove them. The cars had truck engines since Toyota has not yet gotten approval on it's Nextel Cup engine. Called the Car of Tomorrow. It is being phased in starting in 2007 and will be used exclusively in 2009. For those of you not familiar with the Nascar design, they use the same frame and much of the same mechanics for all the cars as approved by Nascar. They are rear wheel drive with the engine up front. The engines are from the manufactures.
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[*] posted on 8-22-2006 at 08:55 AM
Note to tw... it is NASCAR


Not Nascar
And he is correct, the bodies are identical, only difference is the grill pattern and the logos.
And, they still use carburetors, not injection.
Only the manufacturer's engine must be the same, and Chevy can use any GM motor, just not one of the other major companies.
And yes, Toyota will be big in a few years, they came to trucks pretty wimpy, now they win lots of races, more than their share, actually.
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[*] posted on 8-22-2006 at 10:23 AM
Update from Jayski


From www.jayski.com:

Toyota submits engine: Toyota has submitted its proposed Nextel Cup engine to NASCAR but is still awaiting a response, Lee White, Toyota Racing Development senior vice president, said Monday. The Toyota teams at the "car of tomorrow" test at Michigan were using truck motors with Cup-approved carburetors. "The engine that we're using here is essentially a hot-rodded truck engine," White said. "It's a truck engine brought up to Cup power specifications. It's not the engine that we will be racing in February in Daytona." White said he presented the block and cylinder head to NASCAR two weeks ago. "It's really a matter of them getting all of the right people in one place ... to look at the parts and talk about what the engineers are seeing and make sure they agree with the box that they've described," White said. "Once that's done, I would expect that we would have final approval. At this point, there's no indication that there is any issue."


also, Jayski has a very cool photo of MW driving the new Car of Tomorrow Toyota posted today!!
Check it out!!!
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[*] posted on 8-22-2006 at 12:40 PM


Tribunal newspaper in San Jose is running a full page ad for Toyota trucks "Hecho en Baja"...

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[*] posted on 8-22-2006 at 06:21 PM


thebajarunner is correct, it is NASCAR. So don't sic the hounds on me yet.
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[*] posted on 8-22-2006 at 06:29 PM


I didn't know they were building any Toyota trucks in Baja but I wouldn't be
surprised. I've read a couple of reports that the new bigger Toyota V8 will be a 5.7L.

"[Toyota teams at the "car of tomorrow" test at Michigan were using truck motors with Cup-approved carburetors. "]

Ivan's V8 Tundra Throphy Truck had a throttle body Injector for each cylinder.
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[*] posted on 8-22-2006 at 06:38 PM
TW- you 'da man!


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thebajarunner is correct, it is NASCAR. So don't sic the hounds on me yet.


The NYTimes insists on calling it Nascar.....
A truly despicable rag that hates everything outside of Yankee Stadium.
Every time I see "Nascar" it reminds me of those who hate the sport.
And, I know you are a true fan...
thanks for clarifying!
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[*] posted on 8-23-2006 at 07:21 AM


Living in Bakersfield we have our share of NASCAR drivers with Mears and Harvick. Being an Off-Road follower I'm always interested in Robby Gordon, where ever he races.
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[*] posted on 8-23-2006 at 08:00 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by TW
I didn't know they were building any Toyota trucks in Baja but I wouldn't be
surprised. I've read a couple of reports that the new bigger Toyota V8 will be a 5.7L.

"[Toyota teams at the "car of tomorrow" test at Michigan were using truck motors with Cup-approved carburetors. "]

Ivan's V8 Tundra Throphy Truck had a throttle body Injector for each cylinder.


TW : TJ has a plant that has been making Tacomas since 2004 . I don't know if these are sold just in Baja or imported into the US

http://www.toyota.com/about/news/manufacturing/2005/02/01-1-...

Also , in another year or two Toyota is supposed to have a full size diesel to compete with Dodge and ford.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=108724
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