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DENNIS
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I see what you mean, Skeet but could you be a bit more specific?
Just kidding Skeet. Your point is clear and I fully agree with it.
You do realize my reference was to the Mexican Government, Right?
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Baja Bernie
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Dennis
Power naps are great and thanks for handing my post back to me--I don't know how others would think of that but I guess I will just plow ahead.
I do not believe that Obo's power is just in the south of Mexico-He had control of Mexico City and the most leftist group of professors in the world
who control the University of Mexico--They were the folks that the American press was quoting a month ago and they will again.
Never have a doubt that the world of left leaning folks are very strongly for this guy and will do everything to cause the downfall of the legal
government of Mexico for their own private gains.
Now you folks who wish to can bash me for being reactionary--It is not true but what does that matter.
I care only about what this powergrab will to to my friends--the Mexican people. Those in power and those wishing power could care less. Sub
Commander Marcos and I may have been friends in an other world.
Unfortunately, he was a professor who had his head in the clouds as many do on this board.
If I missed a bunch of stuff I'll check back later.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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DENNIS
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I yield the floor .....
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Baja Bernie
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Loretana
Hi!
If I remember correctly you made the point that Baja was always seperated from the powers that be in Mexico proper.
You are exactly right and that is why they supported the Americans in the war of 1846.
Sadly! the Americans reniged on their promises and many of our supporters were killed by those Mexicans who remained loyal to Mexico City.
The reason that so many Californios in Baja sided with the U.S. was because all those idiots in Mexico ever thought about was taxing the people and
never helping them.
Funny, Many of the miners from Comodu sided with America and 500 of them were removed by ship and deposited in Monterry (to keep them from being
killed). Oh! The funny part they were all miners and guess what happened in Northern California in 1848-Yep! And a bunch got rich. Many of them had
the name of Smith.
Why do I know this stuff--heck I write books on Baja and its people. Yep! I do know what I am talking about. AT least sometimes!
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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bajabound2005
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How is Obredor financing his "new and seperate" government?
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Baja Bernie
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Good Point
I can't really say except the folks that openly support him have nothing!
You tell me.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Al G
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"operate from voluntary donations."
Not sure I have the right name, but does anyone know Hugo Chavez. He may see an opportunity Just one point.
I think most would agree that a country, that has come as for as Mexico, will not be changed by a minority of " i want something for nothing" people.
Mexico faces a class problem that only time will solve. This is not the first country that has faced this. I am sure many of you can name others. The
big thing is economics. The people (majority) has seen a major change in their financial future and I doubt seriously if they will care what happens
to Obrador. All it will take is one unlawful act and he will be another Bin Laden.
This has amazed me. I thing Al Gore gave Obrador his hand book on whining and grand standing.
Stop worrying, time will make a lot of difference. I doubt if this will ever be mentioned again after Calderon is in office.
Albert G
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The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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DENNIS
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The same way George does it ...... sell bonds.
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Baja Bernie
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Dennis we are speaking of Mexico--who is Jorge?
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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DENNIS
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You know ..... Jorge Boosh
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Baja Bernie
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Dennis-I will never tell!
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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SDRonni
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Well, CRAP!!! You mean the Mexicans may take back our new condo before we even get a chance to live in it for a while? My timing sure does leave
something to be desired.....if this place is actually finished when it's supposed to be, we may be afraid to pay the other 70%........ Seriously,
though, wouldn't it affect them all negatively if we gringos stopped going there and purchasing???? My questions are purely selfish and
self-centered, I know....after all, it IS a good chunk of our retirement money going into this second "vacation" home.....so, please don't beat me
up...remember, I'm a newby...be nice.....
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DENNIS
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Let me expand on my terse reply to the question "How will AMLO finance his government"?
My reply meant to say, " Just like George Bush finances the dealings of the U.S. government. They pump up the national debt by selling bonds with
generous interest rates. In fact, bond debt is the national debt. Trillions of dollars but, the beat goes on. Need more money to pay off the bonds?
Sell more bonds.
Im certainly not suggesting seriously that AMLO would sell bonds but, if he was a viable candidate for a power grab, there would be people there, such
as Hugo Chavez or Fidel to buy them.
That's all
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DENNIS
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SDRonni ---
It would affect the local real estate market but I believe that overall importance of expatriate private investment and living expenditure is grossly
over-rated. Besides, when the trade off for gringo dollars is a loss of Mexican pride, the pride will win hands down.
Dennis
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bajabound2005
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Dennis, AMLO has no way to do this...or does he? Oh, to the folks in Chiapas and Oaxaca who have no $$ to start with? This story is just crazier and
crazier the more one hears. The good thing is that Baja is like being in Hawaii or Alaska...what happens on the mainland doesn't much affect you.
Far as I can tell from talking with many locals in Ensenada....they don't know or care who the Presidente is...I think our houses are safe...sort of.
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DENNIS
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No BB, he cant sell anything to his Chiapas constituency. They're still eating rocks and twigs. But, his following is much more far rangeing than
that.
My refrence above was to foreign investment, if you will. Loans from like-minded despots.
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bajaguy
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well...........since you asked.......it seems to me that after 9-11 and the border was closed, the Mexican economy suffered from lack of US trade (and
dollars). I think that if there were any repercussions regarding nationalization/property issues, the dollar would be a great
equalizer........remember, you can't eat pride, even if you cover it with salsa.
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DENNIS
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I've never met a Mexican who wouldnt starve himself to death when his national pride is at stake.
Do you remember Operation Intercept, when Nixon was going to stop drugs from coming across the border by practically dismantleing every car that went
through? The tourism industry in northern Baja was devistated. There was, at least, a six hour wait at the border and the streets were empty. But,
they survived. They did other things. They waited. But, what they did most was develope a heartfelt hatred for the United States.
I dont have to mention how Nixon did.
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DENNIS
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Im sure you all noticed that my last post was a milestone. It took away my youth. Im no longer a Junior .... and a long way from being a Senior.
You're all just going to have to put up with me for the next 400 posts being a.......well.........a nothing.
OK ---cut out the applause
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FARASHA
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A NAIVE Question (I'm not a business person, but concerned about friends who are) - what would happen to those Gringos who own Business in BC?
Like people who've invested ALL their Pennies?
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