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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
I think the best thing anyone could do to help the planet is to control population growth. The largest growth is among the poorest people who in turn
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That's easy Tom, just convince everyone to stop ____ing and everything will be OK.
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Don Alley
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I grew up in Los Angeles in the 50s and 60s. Think that hasn't changed?
But they do have parks. Public beaches, with parking, biking and walking paths. In the hills I used to hike around in, while there are new homes, most
development has been hiking and jogging trails.
In other words, while develpment may be inevitable, society recognizes that there are other needs beyond someone making lots of money. Development can
also include developing opportunites for public recreation, not just public employment.
What I find sadly lacking in the development of Baja Sur is a lack of consideration for the state's citizens. No development or establishment of
accessible coastal parks, just government agencies like Fonatur, Singlar and API that seem bent on a relentless quest to remove the local population
from coastal areas, and reserving them for the exclusive use of foreigners.
Of course, I'm talking the social, not nature, environment, something with which Greenpeace has little interest in.
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
I think the best thing anyone could do to help the planet is to control population growth. The largest growth is among the poorest people who in turn
are starving. |
That's easy Tom, just convince everyone to stop ____ing and everything will be OK. |
Or educate people to use birth control and be sure it is easily available and affordable (free when necessary) to everryone, world wide.
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Paula
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Development may be inevitable, but intelligent, thoughtful planning that takes into account the economic, recreational and esthetic needs of ALL of
the population-- not just the people with big bucks and chutzpa-- ought to be a part of the process.
In my opinion, every inch of coastline should be open to all people. You can have waterfront view property without closing beaches. And you can have
harbors and launch facilities without closing the most beautiful stretches of shore, such as Puerto Escondido.
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Cincodemayo
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Speaking of Laguna Beach in the 60's and 70's it was paradise...now it's a crime ridden polluted mess so congested it's crazy. You could take off from
John Wayne Airport to clear skies but now it's a brown haze just like the L.A. basin. The gang bangers from San Clemente to Mission Pendejo are
ruthless just like Montebello, Norwalk and the other cesspools.
Now that's progress! But I still miss IN-N-OUT...Double Doubles baby...
As for Greenpeace I do enjoy what they do to Jap and Russian whaling vessels and longliners...they should just sink em. Bigger issues with the
ACLU-The largest terrorist protecting organization in the USA.
[Edited on 12-6-2006 by Cincodemayo]
Don\'t get mad...
Get EVEN.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cincodemayo
Speaking of Laguna Beach in the 60's and 70's it was paradise...now it's a crime ridden polluted mess so congested it's crazy. You could take off from
John Wayne Airport to clear skies but now it's a brown haze just like the L.A. basin. The gang bangers from San Clemente to Mission Pendejo are
ruthless just like Montebello, Norwalk and the other cesspools.
Now that's progress! But I still miss IN-N-OUT...Double Doubles baby...
As for Greenpeace I do enjoy what they do to Jap and Russian whaling vessels and longliners...they should just sink em. Bigger issues with the
ACLU-The largest terrorist protecting organization in the USA.
[Edited on 12-6-2006 by Cincodemayo] |
IN-N-OUT...Double Doubles MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Iflyfish
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I wonder what impact coastal development is having on marine life?
Green Peace is bringing attention to something. What?
They took water samples in the Columbia river and helped increase public awareness of the levels of polution from the Nuclear plants.
What is the hostility about? These people are devoting their lives to protecting and improving the enviorment. I would think that folks on this list
would be grateful. These folks are the counterfource to unbridled development.
Iflyfish
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Bruce R Leech
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many of there calluses are good but the way they go about trying to handle them is out and out terrorism. they could accomplish so much more if they
would work within the law. just like the protest they are doing down south they are blocking some sort of project and none of us even know why.
the pen is mightier than the sword.
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Cypress
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I'd rather be a "tree hugger" than a "stump jumper". Unrestricted coastal
development spells "doom" to marine wildlife. Have been a witness to it up close
and personal down in what used to be "bayou country" down south. They buried the bayous, called it progress. The folks that profited from it didn't live on the bayou. 
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Bruce R Leech
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you cant say it is OK to brake the law just because there cause is good. and it is not OK to heart some one just because they don't agree with you.
Bruce R Leech
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fishbuck
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Remember "Save The Whales"? A very sucessful campaign to raise public awareness to the plight of our beloved whales. I'm proposing A "Save The
Roosterfish" campaign for Baja. Developement is destructive to the habitat of the sealife that is the main reason that I travel to Baja.
You may not like the tactics of Greenpeace and their kind but this discussion was started by their actions and maybe that's just what Baja needs to
raise attention to the unchecked greed that is driving all this developement.
And remember...
SAVE THE ROOSTERFISH!
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cincodemayo
Speaking of Laguna Beach in the 60's and 70's it was paradise...now it's a crime ridden polluted mess so congested it's crazy. You could take off from
John Wayne Airport to clear skies but now it's a brown haze just like the L.A. basin. The gang bangers from San Clemente to Mission Pendejo are
ruthless just like Montebello, Norwalk and the other cesspools.
Now that's progress! But I still miss IN-N-OUT...Double Doubles baby... |
Not sure what reality your are living in CDM, but I live smack dab in the middle of those OC digs and the violent crime is virtually non-existent. In
fact, Irvine and Mission Pendejo make the top ten list of safest places nationwide with over 100k residents every year.
Crime ridden Laguna Beach?.
Why would you spout this dung? Disappointed there aren't more A-RABS for you to put in your gunsights??????
Stick to the facts, man......the biggest danger in south OC is being hit by a bimbo on a cell phone while she's driving daddy's Beemer.
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cincodemayo
Speaking of Laguna Beach in the 60's and 70's it was paradise...now it's a crime ridden polluted mess so congested it's crazy. You could take off from
John Wayne Airport to clear skies but now it's a brown haze just like the L.A. basin. The gang bangers from San Clemente to Mission Pendejo are
ruthless just like Montebello, Norwalk and the other cesspools.
Now that's progress! But I still miss IN-N-OUT...Double Doubles baby... |
Not sure what reality your are living in CDM, but I live smack dab in the middle of those OC digs and the violent crime is virtually non-existent. In
fact, Irvine and Mission Pendejo make the top ten list of safest places nationwide with over 100k residents every year.
Crime ridden Laguna Beach?.
Why would you spout this dung? Disappointed there aren't more A-RABS for you to put in your gunsights??????
Stick to the facts, man......the biggest danger in south OC is being hit by a bimbo on a cell phone while she's driving daddy's Beemer.
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Wow you pegged that right on. The biggest risk is crossing the street without getting a mercedes hood ornament tatoo on your ass by some boob job
Newport blonde on her way to the mall to buy more **** clothes. But he's right about In n Out though. Still the best.
Oh yeah... SAVE THE ROOSTERFISH!
[Edited on 12-7-2006 by fishbuck]
[Edited on 12-7-2006 by Hose A]
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jerry
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its all about money the greenpeace people we see are just radicals that are hired by a bunch of lawers setting things up for big lawsuits causing
more attention to the cause more donations to line there pockets with as they use a cute little seal, baby whale,or spotted owl tell me where the
money goes?? bruse is right terraism by big lawfirms insted of developers
jerry and judi
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jerry
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perhaps all fish should be saved?? as should every corn plant,. cow, swine, chicken,soybeanetc.etc.
first they need to split the people up and then fleece the maltitudes saying the greedy developers are ruining the world save the world and send your
check to appese your living in a concreet jungle to us we can help lol
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
perhaps all fish should be saved?? as should every corn plant,. cow, swine, chicken,soybeanetc.etc.
first they need to split the people up and then fleece the maltitudes saying the greedy developers are ruining the world save the world and send your
check to appese your living in a concreet jungle to us we can help lol |
Jerry is obviously a developer.
SAVE THE ROOSTERFISH!
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jerry
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no im the gillnetter lesser of the evals?? :bounce\ but i did sell out to a developer does that count??
jerry and judi
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
Dateline....Puerto Los Cabos, San Jose del Cabo, BCS
Greenpeace(hold the flames, please!) volunteers have chained themselved to two bulldozers with signs that say in Spanish "Stop the destruction of the
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http://weblog.greenpeace.org/oceandefenders/archive/2006/12/...
http://weblog.greenpeace.org/oceandefenders/
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jerry
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they just littered the arch 
but they do look like they could make some good fishfood
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Bruce R Leech
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that tractor is not nearly as bad as that sign hanging on the arch
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