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Yeah that's more like it. Even Jerry the Gillnetter/Developer/Antienviornmentalist chimed in this time!
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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jerry
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fishbuck im not really a gillnetter sure not a developer but i am an inviormentalist
i just dont need a flock around me or people with other agendas
jerry and judi
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
fishbuck im not really a gillnetter sure not a developer but i am an inviormentalist
i just dont need a flock around me or people with other agendas |
I know Jerry. I'm just teasing you a little. 
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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David K
Thanks for posting. What a cool looking animal. I hope I get to see one in my lifetime.
Your photo clearly demonstrates the problem.
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would it ever be possible
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Reading the article, I don't see the most obvious reason that the Vaquita is nearing extinction. Assuming that we agree the extinction would be
BAD, then obviously the blame should be directed at George W. Bush, the one man responsible for ALL of the world's evils.
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it would be so nice to learn, talk, discuss, ANYTHING that did not have to have some George Bush crap to do
with it. Give it a friggin' rest will ya already....stop beating the dead horse... This is very interesting information that deserves the respect to
stand alone and talked about seriously....
Thank you for the original information and I will research more as it is interesting....
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kellychapman
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thank you
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
I thought this was an interesting if somewhat sad post. It seems worthy of a bump back to the top to see if it can generate some discussion other than
a few feeble jokes about president Bush.
I was unaware the the little vaquita was in the Cortez. I know that they inhabit some rivers in south america and a few in China.
I, like most people really love to see dolphins and porpoises in the wild.
Here is another example of why it's a bad idea to allow indiscriminate types of fishing like gillnetting, bottom trawling and longlining. Habitat
destruction and bycatch.
It does seem as though there is some hope for the little guys. And maybe this will help the tortuava too!
Since I've been on this board I've noticed there's a sort of flippant "me worry?" attitude. Well that's fine. I think it's some sort of gringo
interpretation of the "baja attitude". Ya, well go have another drink then.
But I've also noticed a few people who seem to truly love baja and understand it's something to be protected and cherrished. More of a "take only what
you need and leave only footprints" idea.
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I am grateful to know that others agree
that we are sick of the places to use political crap every chance possible, "creative avoidance" so we really do not look at the real issue. Maybe
there should be a thread for "Political and Bush" comments only so we can stick to the subject at hand. I love what you had to say about the horrible
sadness if such a thing should happen. I truly love Baja and the world for that matter and feel just as you expressed. Merry Christmas or Merry
Kiss A Moose....or Feliz Navidad....
Kelly
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that is what I would call
| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Four or five years ago I encountered a large school of very small porpoise here in Palmas Bay on the East Cape. The adults were all the same size,
less than 2 meters in length. It appeared that there was at least one juvenile (less than a meter) with each adult I saw. They were moving fast so I
didn't have much time to take it all in but there were at least 50 adults in the pod. When I got back to shore I looked up the porpoise in the books
I had available at the time and concluded they could not have been harbor porpoise (next to the smallest cetacean). This bay is just 60 miles from
the Pacific so that's a long way from their home range. I reported the sighting to Western Outdoor News. |
a heavenly experience....I am jealous.....
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I have a question....
| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
this is all well and good (except knocking the Prez.....go do that on the political or open topic sections, ok?!)
now...what i really want to know here is what kind of bait and rigs should be used to catch these critters, and the best way to cook and eat 'em!! 
grill, smoke, batter fried?? |
do you really find yourself that funny because I want to let you know that you are not....you sound like an idiot....and you really make me want to sick my
stafforshire terrier on you and tear your fishing arm off and bring it back to me so I could beat you with it...and then of course stuff it where your
head must be when you say something so stupid... 
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http://www.panda.org/how_you_can_help/index.cfm...here is a website I finally found just to see what this beautiful Vaquita even looked
like...just in case anyone wants to see one.
Please forgive my horrible temper as I do not mean to be so easy to bait.. Capt
Mike...I really did not mean it .....only for a second.....
this is very important if not informative if your interested....and bittersweet...it would be nice to help if we can....
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Extremist Thinking ?
Originally posted by capt. mike:
"this is all well and good (except knocking the Prez.....go do that on the political or open topic sections, ok?!)"
"now...what i really want to know here is what kind of bait and rigs should be used to catch these critters, and the best way to cook and eat 'em!!
grill, smoke, batter fried??"
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Kellychapman's retort:
"do you really find yourself that funny because I want to let you know that you are not....you sound like an idiot....and you really make me want to
sick my stafforshire terrier on you and tear your fishing arm off and bring it back to me so I could beat you with it...and then of course stuff it
where your head must be when you say something so stupid..."
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Now, we are talking about another (good tasting ?) sea creature here, aren't we ? Whatever intelligent thought they might have, they aren't on the
level of Human Consciousness. They're just another Lower Mammal, much like any others on land which we utilize for nourishment.
If you're a Vegan, say so and we'll know what your frame of reference is. If not, and you eat meat, then you're simply being a Hypocrite.
I have heard from some fishermen that the other Dolphins are good tasting, but I don't know about the Vaquitas. Although I have no intention of
breaking any laws to do so, I'd be willing to find out how they do taste if I come across any that have already been caught.
Boy, Now I'm hungry. No Vaquita so tonight's dead chicken will have to do.
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kellychapman
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I am not a vegan....I simply do not think eating the smallest endangered creatures on this earth necessary. It is very sad with the abundance of food
available we have to make statements with only 600 left before they no longer exist. It is a sad state of affairs.......I am not a hyprcrite for
having some respect for the delicate balance that is left on this planet....and that is really the point and the mentality of those that don't that
don't give a crap. They will all be gone soon so I do should not let it bother me.....should be getting used to it by now.
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That link doesn't work Kelly... Is there a photo different than the ones I posted in that WWF web site?
Bill, sometimes the game fish 'dorado' (mahi mahi) are called by their English name 'dolphinfish' or just dolphin and that may have been the good
eating fish? I don't think anyone eats the mammal dolphin (or porpoise), do they?
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Dolphin are eaten in Japan.
Here's a video of the Taiji Bay dolphin slaughter:
http://www.eurocbc.org/taijislaughter.mpg
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Mike,
I thought your post was rather funny, tongue in cheek funny.
Have to have some sense of humor in this f$#&ed up world.
I heard teguila goes well with it.
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Visual Images
The photos of the netted Dolphin look about the same as any large fish would. I imagine photos of slaughtered steers, Pigs or Goats would have the
same impact. Heck, a photo of a slaughtered Cow might start a riot in India.
Kelly's correct on one thing, though. We may as well get over the concern. At its current levels, the Vaquita's demise is inevitable.
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hmmmm kelly just said thier in south america and china too oh oh now there in anabundence
may have to save them little fish they been eating ?and then theres the stuff the little fish eat its gona be indangered too
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Most folks would have to be mighty hungry to kill and eat an endangered species. 
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your so damn right....
| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
hmmmm kelly just said thier in south america and china too oh oh now there in anabundence
may have to save them little fish they been eating ?and then theres the stuff the little fish eat its gona be indangered too
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...it really does have to make you almost laugh at the viscous circle that goes around dealing with balance.
Or else it is enough to make me waste my time crying about it....I am just a very sensitive person that would save the world if I could and in
reality....it is tought just doing what I can right here on a daily basis...drink tequlla and be happy!!!!
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what isn't
eaten by the Japanese???? talk about rape and pillage of
our oceans...and everything on earth that is endangered to stuff in their faces while they take over the world . Let's not even go there....talk
about a sensitive subject...
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Dolphins
"The anterior appendages contain the skeletal remnants of five digits that form the flippers, which the animal uses primarily as stabilizers, although
occasionally in an oar like fashion."
Seems these creatures were once like us but decided to go for a swim at San Felipe and not come back out of the water. They are distant relatives but
seem kinder than humans and don't invade other countries. JUST A JOKE
 
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