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Mango
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I love Toyotas. Great cars and trucks. I drove a Sienna until recently. Sold it to my sister with 170,000 problem free miles on it.
However; I wound up comming home with a Subaru Forester. 11,000+ miles and its doing great as well.
My Subaru has good ground clearance, AWD, good mileage, and handles like a dream. It does well offroad; but, I have not fully tested it yet as it is
still pretty "new". I see it more as an off road worthy car than a truck or SUV. It seems to do well sand and loose stuff; but, I will have to take
it super easy around rocks. I'm not expecting to do anything too hard core with it...after all it's not a Toyta truck!
I suspect you will be very happy with your Toyota. They start out good and just keep growing on you. Toyota makes super tough and reliable trucks.
Enjoy.
Check out how tough!
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
But when the truck does everything you want and won't break down on you or cause you expensive repairs after the warantee, it will be worth it!
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Don't buy a Jeep...They're nothing but trouble.LOL
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TMW
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Yesterday I pulled the 5000lb snowcat and trailer up Breckenridge mtn east of Bakersfield to the 5000ft level where we leave it for the winter. No
problem at all, even the steepest sections the Tacoma went right up. The only problem I had was when I got to this narrow passage area at 4500ft it's
a single lane section with the mtn embankment to my right and a 300 ft drop off to my left, the road was covered with ice. I was soon stopped and
sliding backwards, no traction, wheel spin only. I steered it (actually it went on it's own) to the snowy section on the edge of the embankment with
the trailer resting against it. We put chains on and away we went, up up and away.
[Edited on 12-21-2006 by TW]
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David K
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Here's what you need for snow... but they do make noise when driving... Cooper STT. Not so good in sand, unless you get down to 10 psi.
I have 20,000 miles on mine and they are wearing very well, ie. look almost new!
The BFG Rugged Trail TAs that came with the Tacoma didn't last 25,000 miles! They work good in sand, but probably not as well in snow.
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DianaT
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Miss our old Toyota
All this talk about small Toyota trucks makes us sentimental. We love our Tundra, but still miss our old baby---1984 Toyota. In 1997 with a new
paint job, and 200,000 miles on it, we drove it to Honduras.
Yes, it had a lousy turning radius and without power steering, it kept the arm muscles in good shape. John bought it new before we were married and I
always said he was so attached, he would be buried in it.
In 1998 we moved from Honduras to Guatemala and our baby was stolen---stolen in less than 10 minutes parked in a very small parking lot in the best
part of town and in front of 3 armed security guards---they saw nothing. 
The worst part is we had just paid the import duty---we have the Guatemalan license plates we picked up after the truck was gone.
Here is a scanned picture of our precious lost baby---it was taken in Honduras in front of the school where we taught.
Trying to deal with the police in Guatemala was, well let's just say a real experience and lesson in don't waste your time. That old Toyota is
probably still working on someone's Coffee finca.
While we love our Tundra, that old Toyota was so simple---
Diane
[Edited on 12-21-2006 by jdtrotter]
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TMW
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DK, I'll probably put those on when the tires on it wear out. I don't get into the sand with this truck or not very often, since it's a company truck.
Snow in the mtns is my biggest problem.
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Mexitron
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Diane--I definitely miss the simplicity of those earlier models--even my 1992 Toyota had only a few fuses...In 2000 I bought a Chevy Silverado because
of my landscaping business; the truck has been great, but on one trip in Baja the automatic door locks kept unlocking and locking, especially when
the road got rough. So my friend and figured there was a short and we'd just pull the fuse and not worry about it--after pulling about 5 or 6 of them
we were finally able to shut down the locking system...complicated!
Heh, of course it turned out that the extra key remote I keep in the console was jammed against something and every time we hit a rough spot in the
road it was enough to push the keyless entry button...
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Oso
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Since buying McGyver's '04 Taco, I have been as happy with it as a retard at ChuckECheese. As I am fast approaching the end of the original warranty
at 36k/3yrs, I am now faced with the dilemma of to buy or not to buy an extended warranty. So far, I've only had to use it once and that was for a
bolt in the seat.
I usually reject extended warranties on appliances and such as a waste of money, but I'm not sure about Toyota. I would appreciate hearing about
experiences pro or con with such.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Barry A.
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I did not know that you could buy an extended warrantee near the end of the original warrantee-------would that not be rather expensive??
Extended warrantees, especially on a toyota, strike me as being excessive, and probably will not "pencil" out in the long run.
But I have no idea what I am talking about, really. 
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Bob and Susan
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buy a new one (truck)
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Oso
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According to the dealer, as long as i'm a mile and a day short of the end of the original, I can buy an extended. The question is: Is it worth it?
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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TMW
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My 04 GMC Z71 came with a 3 yr 36,000 mile warranty. earlier this year when I reach 30,000 miles I had already had it in for a problem with the
4x2/4x4 selector switches, a software problem I'm told. Then the speedometer was erradic, they changed the instrument cluster. Then the temp gauge
didn't work, they changed the instrument cluster again. Then I had a rattle that felt like a pencil tapping the steering column. I thought they had
left something loose under the dash. I looked and felt but never found anything. Then on a trip to Baja bouncing around the rattle went away!!!!! But
after the last instrument cluster replacement I asked about extended warranties and I was given several options. I chose the 3 year 45,000 mile for
$1,800. It comes with a $100 deductable. It started when the original factory warranty ended. With all the computer stuff on it I'm not sure what I'd
be able to fix without taking it in. I have a fleet of vans and trucks at work and frankly $600 per year is not a bad deal. When I had my Dodge 2500
4x4 at work, everytime I took it in for a problem it seemed to cost $700+. Just had one of our Ford E350 vans repaired at the Ford dealer, oxygen
sensor replaced $380. That ruined the catalyic converter which cost $480 to replace at a muffler shop. Ford wanted $1,200 for the converter alone.
Part of the decision it whether you can do the repairs yourself. Frankly if I never had any problems with a vehicle for 3 years I probably would not
get an extended warranty. Then again is $50 per month (tank of gas) worth getting it.
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John M
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Registered: 9-3-2003
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Toyota Extended Warranty
We purchased an extended warranty for our Toyota 4WD double cab pick up.
The dealership where we bought, Toyota of San Bernardino, offered to sell it at the point of purchase and we declined. The cost they offered it at
seemed excessive - Around $1,500 - this was a factory warranty, not aftermarket, with $0 deductible, 6 years, 100,000 miles coverage.
With the miles we put on the truck we figured we'd hit the 100,000 near the six year mark.
We started shopping on-line.
Although others will scoff at extended warranties as unnecessary, we went for it, though not through our local dealer here in the high desert, nor
through Toyota of San Bernardino.
We purchased it through Lexus of Greenwich (CT) and Toyota Financial Services. Total cost for the exact warranty coverage mentioned above was $990 -
this was in May 2006.
Oso, if you u2u me I will provide a name and phone number although you could just as easily contact the dealership.
There is one thing to understand, according to Toyota Financial - the folks who oversee the warranty. The factory warranty does not extend outside of
the continental United States - at least mine doesn't. I suppose if you obtain it in a foreign country it wouldn't cover in the U.S.???
So they suggested if I have an issue in Baja I have a couple of choices. First if close enough, or it's possible, have it towed across into San Diego
or Calexico. Secondly, and this is more risky, have the repair done in Baja, get receipts and submit everything to Toyota Financial for consideration.
With the warranty came a listing of the excluded items. Very minimal in my opinion - normal wear items, wiper blades, tires, trim, upholstery, fan
belt sort of things. I'd call this a "bumper to bumper" warranty. Other coverage plans are available, with deductibles, shorter coverage spans and so
forth.
John M
[Edited on 12-22-2006 by John M]
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Oso
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TW, thank you for your experience in general and if I had Detroit Iron, I would definitely consider the extended warranty. But, I'm asking
specifically about Toyota here, which although now manufactured largely in the U.S. by the same alcoholics and drug addicts, is still somehow
maintaining a somewhat lower incidence of repair record. 
John, thanks, I would like to compare the local guy's quote with another.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Bruce R Leech
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when they get 900 dollars to replace a fan clutch I would say yes.
Bruce R Leech
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TMW
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Today I took 3 other guys up the mountain and thru the snow in my 2007 Tacoma. I had about 100 lbs of stuff in the bed. Well David K the rear end
bottoms just like yours. What I consider a small bump and bang it went. This is the first time I've had a load in it. I'm ready for an add a leaf.
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Crusoe
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Go trade it in for a Ford....... Their wide enough, so you can lay down in the front seat and have yourself a nap!!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
Today I took 3 other guys up the mountain and thru the snow in my 2007 Tacoma. I had about 100 lbs of stuff in the bed. Well David K the rear end
bottoms just like yours. What I consider a small bump and bang it went. This is the first time I've had a load in it. I'm ready for an add a leaf.
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Gadget gave me a contact with a Toyota suspension expert... I haven't heard back from them, yet... I will let you know.
I fear that adding a leaf will raise the back end which will make a front end raise necessary, possibly... I don't want to start an evil circle to
keep the Tacoma level... LOL
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BajaWarrior
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David, you want an overload spring which is nearly flat but thick, it only goes to work when you have a load, otherwise you get your comfy ride the
rest of the time.
I put some on a 87 Ford Ranger Utility bed truck and I bought them from Off Road Warehouse for about two hundred dollars and installed them in about
an hour and a half. They worked very well and did not raise the truck at all, just held it at it's present height.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
David, you want an overload spring which is nearly flat but thick, it only goes to work when you have a load, otherwise you get your comfy ride the
rest of the time.
I put some on a 87 Ford Ranger Utility bed truck and I bought them from Off Road Warehouse for about two hundred dollars and installed them in about
an hour and a half. They worked very well and did not raise the truck at all, just held it at it's present height. |
Thanks, that was a serious option I was considering.
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